Men are increasingly refusing to help women at work.

[Anonymous 6]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/relationships/11904203/Well-done-feminism.-Now-man-are-afraid-to-help-women-at-work.html

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Men are too paranoid about sexual harassment claims to lend a helping hand in the workplace.

Well done, feminism. Now men are afraid to help women at work

News that men are too fearful of a trip to HR to help out their female colleagues is final proof that the gender equality project has backfired, writes Martin Daubney

A new book claims that male office workers are now so afraid of being on the receiving end of a sexual harassment case, they are reluctant to mentor, assist, befriend and even hold open doors for female colleagues.

Crushingly, Sex & The Office suggests men now view such ordinary, decent behaviours as “too risky” – and, in what will be a bitter irony for equality campaigners – claims that, as a direct consequence, women are now failing to advance at work.

This terror of being accused of sexual harassment is now so common it has its own term, “backlash stress”. It sounds like something straight out of a Claims Direct ad – where the only victims are men.

he book’s author, Kim Elsesser, a research scholar at the University of California, argues that a “sex partition” has sprung up, which impedes women from building the vital network of contacts both within the workplace and socially.

And the author should know about tough working environments: she’s a former equities trader at Morgan Stanley.

Tellingly, Elsesser adds that companies themselves are contributing to this mess, as they are now so terrified of legal action they send staff on sexual harassment training courses, and are duty-bound to follow up on any allegation, however minor.

Ludicrously, Elsesser cites examples of men who have been dragged in by their HR departments for simply opening a door for a female colleague or complimenting her on a new suit. “Stories like these spread around workplaces, instilling a fear that innocent remarks will be misinterpreted,” she says.

No s**t, Sherlock!

Of course, despite the fact that it is men who are getting the rough end of the pineapple here, this is all being painted as Officially Bad For Women, as they are failing to get on.

But how are men meant to react when we’re informed that, despite decades of being told women don’t need or even want men’s help, now they’re falling behind because we’re not helping them?

A phrase involving “cake and eat it” leaps to mind – although don’t repeat it at work, as you’ll probably be frogmarched to HR for “fat shaming”.

Elsesser’s book echoes an insightful New York Post article from earlier this year called ‘Powerful Men Now Hide Behind Open Doors’.

The writer, Naomi Schaffer Riley, paints a depressingly familiar picture of university lecturers who won’t even close their office doors when alone with a female student.

It would be easy to dismiss this as yet more campus lunacy, yet Riley claims this rot runs to the very top of American society. And how soon before we start feeling ripples cross the Pond?

Riley cites a US National Journal survey where a male Congress aide said: “Several female aides have been barred from staffing their male bosses at evening events, driving alone with their congressman or senator, or even sitting down one-on-one in his office for fear that others would get the wrong impression.”

In a lawsuit-happy culture, where claims can seemingly be made on a ‘he said/she said’ basis, men are now trying to ensure their actions are always covered by a third party witness. Increasingly, they want to make sure the walls have ears – just in case something “inappropriate” is said.

How sad. And, honestly, who’s got the foggiest clue about where “inappropriate” even begins these days? Holding open a door? Saying, “nice dress?” Smiling? Making eye contact?

By carrying on like this we are nurturing and mollycoddling victimhood and it is having profound impacts. Last month in Britain, “fearless feminist” barrister Charlotte Proudman publicly shamed Alexander Carter-Silk, 57, a senior solicitor, for complimenting her “stunning” LinkedIn profile picture – then claimed it was her career that had been “ruined”.

Amid this poisonous smog of mutual mistrust and, increasingly, contempt, is there any wonder men are becoming fearful of female co-workers?

Above all, Sex & The Office is proof, if any were needed, that The Great Workplace Equality Project has spectacularly backfired. Who, precisely, wins if men are terrified of lawsuits and women are falling behind as a consequence?

In this toxic, paranoid environment, women will never be trusted as advisers. They will be frozen out of networks – or, increasingly, create their own women-only networks, which on the surface promise advancement yet deep down increase gender separatism. Would the single-sex workplaces of the 1940s be safer for all?

This is the bed Third Wave feminism has made. Now we all have to lie in it: wide-awake, hearts racing, eyes wide open, waiting for the lawyers to come hammering at our doors.

Is that our collective future – one called “Fear And Loathing In Human Resources?” How can we make this waking nightmare end?

Thoughts???

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

I got told today by a nurse when another patient from another diálisis center asked about my relationship status (they always try to play Cupid).

I told the lady ” women have too high standards this days, you can’t even hold the door open for them couse they get offended”

A few more stuff and a nurse said ” I need no men”.

Well they need no men, so walk away.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

Anonymous wrote:

Of course, despite the fact that it is men who are getting the rough end of the pineapple here, this is all being painted as Officially Bad For Women, as they are failing to get on.

THE VICTIM

Anonymous wrote:

But how are men meant to react when we’re informed that, despite decades of being told women don’t need or even want men’s help, now they’re falling behind because we’re not helping them?

THE BLAME

Anonymous wrote:

Elsesser’s book echoes an insightful New York Post article from earlier this year called ‘Powerful Men Now Hide Behind Open Doors’.

THE SHAMING

As predicable as AWALT.

You’re oppressing me so go away, but before you go could you do this list of tasks for me first.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[IRuleMeParticipant]

FrostByte wrote:

Venom wrote:

Of course, despite the fact that it is men who are getting the rough end of the pineapple here, this is all being painted as Officially Bad For Women, as they are failing to get on.

THE VICTIM

Venom wrote:

But how are men meant to react when we’re informed that, despite decades of being told women don’t need or even want men’s help, now they’re falling behind because we’re not helping them?

THE BLAME

Venom wrote:

Elsesser’s book echoes an insightful New York Post article from earlier this year called ‘Powerful Men Now Hide Behind Open Doors’.

THE SHAMING

As predicable as AWALT.

You’re oppressing me so go away, but before you go could you do this list of tasks for me first.

It’s like that article that said 30 things men should do in the name of feminism, and one was “don’t be around so much, except when we need you as a white knight. Then you can ‘go away again’.”

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

Google Billy Graham rule.

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

“Did you not know that there is enmity and natural antipathy between your kind and mine? Did you not know that a serpent in the bosom, a mouse in a bag and fire in a barn give their hosts an ill reward?” – Odo of Cheriton

When men observe from other men being bitten, that coddling vipers is dangerous, don’t be surprised when men avoid all contact with vipers. Never coddle a snake to your bosom. Something Trump knows; I think he once read out loud the story of the Snake and the Farmer.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

FrostByte wrote:

As predicable as AWALT.

You’re oppressing me so go away, but before you go could you do this list of tasks for me first.

Women and manginas can dish out their shame. I’ll eat a box of wasabi peas and dish out a putrid fart in their general direction. That is the extent of what I will do for them.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[MGTOW KnightParticipant 7477]

Yeah I walk around eggshells in my corporate office.

I just do my work, and keep my head down.

Easier to ghost that way.

Fuck bitches... literally and metaphorically

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

Bok bok bok bok bok.

I see the chickens have come home to roost.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[OldBillParticipant]

FrostByte wrote:

You’re oppressing me so go away, but before you go could you do this list of tasks for me first.

A masterful analysis, FrostByte.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[Solo MAN’S WisdomParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

Now men are afraid to help women at work

I don’t know that “afraid” is the correct term. We are NOT stupid [that’s for damn sure], and we just want to promote equality. So, Come get. Bitch.

When women lead, destruction is the destination. -- Me.

[GrumpyParticipant]

Why am I obligated to “help” a woman perform functions that she was explicitly hired and paid to do?
Do I get additional pay or a pay raise?
I am paid to do MY job, not for doing hers or anyone else’s job!
It’s not fear, it is a matter of “do what you are f~~~ing paid to do” you lazy sack of s~~~.
F~~~ off with the whining already.

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

[AwakenedParticipant 35200]

At my place of employment, I let “the girls”/Women Management figure out a lil project, because “obviously” all that “talent” wouldn’t have ANY problems.

I saw all there issues brewing early on, but since I was NEVER consulted about this lil project that directly affected me, I just documented it’s short lived flight, crash, and burn.

I sat back and just watched THEIR lil project go up in FLAMES.

TYPICAL, like MOST Women instead of ATTEMPTING to ‘Fix the Problems as they arose, they just “talked about them” until it was to late, and then just decided to eliminate the lil project because “IT didn’t work”. No Ladies, YOU DIDN’T WORK, YOU DIDN’T MONITOR, YOU DIDN’T CHANGE THE PROJECT AS NEEDED TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEMS AS THEY AROSE ETC.ETC.ETC.

It’s hard to Believe, but the lil “Hear Me Roar” Cupcakes Failed ????

The lil project, Could have, Should have, WOULD have WORKED !!

NOTHING “NEW” with ANY of This…..

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[AttonParticipant]

They are a walking talking liability avoidance is only logical.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[Author]

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