Me. Before marriage and after divorce (long)

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    ForeverDone
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    I was never one for marriage, however, I wanted to make my then wife happy. She, once divorced, seemed like a decent partner. I am sure, with other people, she’s nice and a good person. However, she’s a horrible partner. She may say the same for me, but that’s okay. Was I the best? No, however, I always provided, cooked, cleaned, went to her parents’ home weekly, tried for kid, talked to her about her day, helped her during her times of medical and professional turmoil. However? What did that get me? Absolutely nothing.

    When the sh!t hits the fan, you know where you stand with people. Sad, but true, there is NO ONE who will stand by me when the sh!t hits the fan again. My father is gone. My older sibling is gone. My grandmother is gone. My wife, who was supposed to be my ride or die partner, is gone. Yes, I ejected her, as I couldn’t have this liability on my books moving forward. I was taking over a new business with a well known business man, and I was approaching 3 years with her in a marriage contract. As soon as you get to 5 years, it’s considered a long term marriage, thus asset distribution. I wasn’t willing to risk my financial well being with a woman who just shut down. She was unhappy. Why? No one knows. One would think it has to do with no kids. It was apparent she wasn’t getting pregnant the traditional way, so I offered all other options and to even (stupidly) pay for it. No luck. She wanted no part. She wouldn’t work on the marriage at all. I’ve never experienced a “partner” who would not work on their partnership for the greater good. Crazy. It cost about double the cost of the marriage for me to legally divorce her, and it costed her about 12k-15k. We could had just signed a piece of paper and she’d be out zero. But no, she wanted to hurt me financially. I know this as she screwed me with her medical premiums for 8 months not offering a dime. At 800+ a month for her share, it hurt. Then another 20k+ on legal fees. 2k for off duty cops to be here while she moved her crap out and all wedding gifts (plus cash) donated to her. What the stupid dumb woman didn’t know was that I had a hush fund being built for our child since the first day we seriously started dating. I was going to show it to her once our child was born so she can take time off to raise our child; if she wanted too. Yes, as you can see, I was a bad husband and partner. No doubt, we went through some tough times, more me personally than her. Through dating and the first year of marriage, she had my back. For some reason, when she turned 40, everything hit the fan. I still feel like a failure, however, I will never put myself in that position again. I lost 3 family members, business failed (fine 3 years later), and some medical issues arisen. A spouse is supposed to draw help when needed. I was down, and all she could do sit there and look away.

    There were some tell tale signs that I didn’t recognize, but they say hindsight is 20/20. Some of them:

    1. She wanted to be on the deed, then offered to exit the marriage not too long after I said no.

    2. We had an agreement she would take my name, yet she never filed the papers. I even created them. All she had to do is click a button online. Never did.

    3. Sex stopped.

    4. Stopped coming to MY family events. Stopped telling me about hers. Heck, she even RSVP’d me no on wedding invitations that I was invited to. Still amazed on that she’d rather be alone than with HER HUSBAND at public events.

    5. Wouldn’t talk about her day to me.

    6. Refused to travel with me. Said it was too hard. Even her Mom said she was wrong on this.

    After divorce.

    I have extreme distrust of women. I see no value in them aside from sex. However, since I will not do anything unprotected, some women break up cause I will not go down on them. I was lucky enough to get away from my ex-wife with no STDs (she had two. Incurable, but not major. Of course told to me AFTER we started dating and having sex).

    I refuse to be naive again. I am fair with women, but I do not trust them. I will court them until I get what I want (sex), but after that, if they want to leave, I will personally show them the door. One woman just called me and said I really like you, but we need to stop seeing each other. Okay, not a problem. Best of luck to you and buh-bye. I will not allow my heart to get destroyed again. I do not know if many of you guys know about servers and IT. However, server hardening fills the holes and adds different protections from various attacks and exploits. I’ve done something called heart hardening. I will never be the same person prior to marriage. I do not know if that is good or bad. However, I could had lost so much and pushed to the limit of suicide, but I pulled myself back. I will never allow myself to be in that position again. If it means that I am alone for life, I guess that is what it will be. Not my ideal solution nor goal, but it is what it is.

    This should be a lesson to all men in LTRs and engaged. If you have any assets, women in their 20’s and beyond will just look at you as financial security. The kicker is, many do not even know they are doing it.

    Stay secure my friends.

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    Anonymous
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    I did not read the whole thing shame on me.
    Welcome to the jungle my new friend. Punt, everyone that needs punting.

    #762704
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    Anonymous
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    Awesome story dave.

    #762705
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    Harpo-My-"SON"
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    I read it all and you found out as many of us that the
    female mindset is a one way street.

    I also needed a partner and got an oponent!

    Feminism has brainwashed the modern female into believing in the myth of a gender war.
    They are geared to be a man’s rival.

    A dog is a better partner than the modern female human
    being.

    Welcome aboard the International sailing Ship ISS-MGTOW destinations created individualy.

    love and respect to all

    I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

    #762763
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    Carnage
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    My history is more or less the same.

    Even the kid part, money saving (for kid and house) is same, except she never got my back.

    I saw old pictures from year 1 we started dating, I looked miserable.

    My reward for my efforts?

    Cheating, lies, back stabbing, she tried to clean me out and she even told me she was using me from day 1.

    Now life is diferent, better, i dated a few months, I dated, I saw, I ran the hell off.

    Never again, monk.

    Welcome to free men land sir.

    To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

    #762782
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    NerdTunneler
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    LOL…At some points I thought I was reading my life…I guess we all went similar struggles despite trying to be the best husband we can be…They will never be satisfied…AWALT…

    I stand with feet apart and let my balls hang free...Manginas dont have balls...See how they stand and sit at the whim of their masters...

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    Anonymous
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    You will come of age when you realize even the pussy alone and securing it just isn’t worth the time, risk, and effort!

    After sex is tossed in the gynocentric trash can with everything else there’s nothing more that needs doing. It’s a form of freedom and relief all rolled up into one!

    #762798
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    ForeverDone
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    You will come of age when you realize even the pussy alone and securing it just isn’t worth the time, risk, and effort!

    After sex is tossed in the gynocentric trash can with everything else there’s nothing more that needs doing. It’s a form of freedom and relief all rolled up into one!

    Sadly, I sometimes question it too. I am okay being alone. I’ve been living alone from 17 – 37. 37 on I was married and living with my ex-wife. It gets a bit boring, and I miss the social events I was invited to once in a while. Many no longer invite me due to the bitter divorce (which could had been avoided. I was painted as kicking her out when in fact she brought up the suggestion from her therapist). All either stayed neutral or went with her.

    I’ve debated selling my home and moving back to the Jersey City where I used to live. Love the home, not crazy about the area anymore. I’d also have to sell it at a loss, which would also compound things. Tough decisions.

    #762814
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    Arcturis
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    Hey Forever! I read it all, thanks for sharing your story.

    She was unhappy. Why? No one knows.

    Women are rarely happy with what they have for long. – If 95% of life is great, they’ll focus on the 5.

    This was never your fault. We’re told what a traditional good man should be and that’s what you did.

    There were some tell tale signs that I didn’t recognize, but they say hindsight is 20/20.

    Every man here has had the same realisations, myself included. Hindsight is a glorious thing but at the time and in the moment we’re often blinded by ‘love‘ and the concept of ‘being a good man‘.

    Thank you for your advice. Beers in the fridge 🙂

    Protect Your Sovereignty. Women WILL TRY To Manipulate You. #NOCONTACT #ICETHEMOUT
    #762995
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    JustAnotherGuy
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    Women are never happy, your best is never enough, and nothing you can ever do or be will satisfy her. She will always adjust to the new baseline and demand more.

    This is the hypergamy instinct. We used to have social pressures and male authority to keep it in check.

    Cupcakes are Cold. MGTOW is Absolute Zero.
    “Let us wait a little; when your enemy is executing a false movement, never interrupt him” –Napoleon Bonaparte, 1805

    #763002
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    JustAnotherGuy
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    This was never your fault. We’re told what a traditional good man should be and that’s what you did.

    I would use the expression “groomed.” It’s a pun (because, you know, grooms), and it evokes the language of child exploitation (which is functionally what is happening).

    We are groomed by the gynocentric society to be that obedient, quiet, drugged up little drone wage slaving to an ever-fattening cow who can never get enough.

    Cupcakes are Cold. MGTOW is Absolute Zero.
    “Let us wait a little; when your enemy is executing a false movement, never interrupt him” –Napoleon Bonaparte, 1805

    #763010
    ForeverDone
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    Sadly, it is my fault. I allowed emotions to overtake logical thinking and married her. I put in certain safety precautions which protected my assets (she actually lied on court docs), but again, if I was wise enough to do that, why did I go through with the marriage? Obviously, my logical brain knew or perceived something my heart missed.

    Trust when I say, this will never happen again. Very foolish and negligent on my part. And boy did I pay the price for a 2 year in change marriage. What a racket. If I was ever Governor, I’d go after the family court system with vengeance. All divorces MUST go through mediation without court involvement. No need for alimony and what each person comes into the marriage is 100% still owned by the original owner; assuming no commingling of assets. That’s fair. This court system nowadays isn’t fair to anyone but the lawyers.

    #763048
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    JustAnotherGuy
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    Sadly, it is my fault. I allowed emotions to overtake logical thinking and married her

    Wizard’s First Rule. People want to be lied to. We lie to ourselves. We so desperately want something to be true that, without diligence, we will pretend that it is.

    Cupcakes are Cold. MGTOW is Absolute Zero.
    “Let us wait a little; when your enemy is executing a false movement, never interrupt him” –Napoleon Bonaparte, 1805

    #763333
    ForeverDone
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    Sadly, it is my fault. I allowed emotions to overtake logical thinking and married her

    Wizard’s First Rule. People want to be lied to. We lie to ourselves. We so desperately want something to be true that, without diligence, we will pretend that it is.

    Very true. We want to believe what we want to be the truth so hard that we believe falsely that it is; when in fact it is not.

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