Maybe We Should Go To Counseling?

[uchibenkeiParticipant 7965]

Counseling is so a feminist or mangina can tell you you’re wrong and your wife is right. It’s a waste of time.

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I bathe in the tears of single moms.

[RedDawnParticipant 1391]

Keymaster wrote:

After 10 years in California, he’s paying for life.

Just in case it was missed. Remember hearing this fact on the Tom Leykis show.

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[Big BossParticipant 4496]

Be Her Daddy wrote:

I’ve got a good bro

Your f~~~ed son.

[narwhalParticipant]

First, listen to him. Let yourself be the person he can go to vent all his frustration. If you show you care and can listen, then he will be more willing to listen to you.

Then just give him logical answers to his problems. Don’t worry about whether it’s under the MGTOW label or anything like that, just sensible solutions to the problems. Make sure he understands that what is sensible and logical is much more valid then whatever emotional self-centered crap she may be spouting.

Make sure that he understands that he is in the position of control here, not the other way around. He is making the money, so he can say no to expenses. Say no to counseling. Say no to school expenses if it comes to it. If she wants a separation or divorce, then she must leave the house, not him. He needs to give her a dose of reality.

Yes, she is pregnant, but that doesn’t give her the right to behave so poorly. There isn’t a need to be vindictive anyway, just saying no and letting her deal with the crap she is creating for herself.

Ok. Then do it.

[Jack HarperParticipant 2863]

Have him talk to an attorney but my understanding is (possibly varies by State) you have to be a resident of the new state for a period of time (like six months) before you can divorce under the laws of a new state. I’m not familiar with Arizona divorce law but I imagine it’s probably more favorable than California.

[TicParticipant 4329]

the red flags are screaming at your friend. She’s talking about divorce, taking the kids, him not being around enough, etc.

My advice: start to monitor her cell phone and facebook activity, and any other social media. She’ll cheat. He needs to start damage control for his finances, but, I bet he won’t. He’ll learn the hard way.

God bless peace and freedom.

[TicParticipant 4329]

counseling is crock of s~~~. you’re throwing money away. it doesn’t work. it’ll give excuse for her to be a c~~~.

God bless peace and freedom.

[Jack HarperParticipant 2863]

True. Even my psychiatrist told me marriage counseling is horse s~~~. And that, as others have said, they nearly always favor the woman’s side because that is their bread and butter.

As a friend of mine put it if your wife says she wants marital counseling that is a red flag warning that she is already considering divorce. This is your ‘last chance’ and she is essentially passing the buck of responsibility to the counselor/therapist and saying ‘my husband is broken fix him and make him be the man I want.’ F~~~ that.

And I believe I’ve read that women start planning a divorce at least 18 months in advance.

[Anonymous 11]

Having your wife suggest marriage counseling is like having your employer implement a PIP plan for you.

The writing is on the wall.

[experiencedParticipant]

Tic wrote:

the red flags are screaming….She’s talking about divorce, taking the kids, him not being around enough, etc.
My advice: start to monitor her cell phone and facebook activity, and any other social media. She’ll cheat. He needs to start damage control for his finances, but, I bet he won’t. He’ll learn the hard way.

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[John Woods 13Participant 2855]

Counseling is not useless. It is a lot worse than that. It’s you paying money to go to blue pill, mangina re-indoctrination camp. It’s all designed to make the man out to be the problem. And if the man does not comply with the new “rules” set by the counselor, at least the woman now has extra ammunition for her divorce. Never under any circumstances suggest counseling to anyone!

The answer is NO. “I could but I won’t”. Memini murum!

[JollyMisanthropeParticipant 3356]

If he want to get sandbagged by a marriage counselor then sure. I doubt it’s going to be very productive.

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[TaxGuyParticipant]

My ex and I went to a marriage counselor one time. Here’s the funny thing: She went in there thinking that I had all of these problems that I needed to work on. It only took one session to figure out that I had a logical explanation for every action I take (because I’m a guy). By the end of it, the ex didn’t want to go back. Told me we didn’t need it and everything was fine.

Six months later she wanted a divorce…………..

So, am I pro counseling or anti? I’m not sure. For me, it actually validated my reasoning and told me that I wasn’t really doing anything “wrong”. The ex went in convinced that I was 100% wrong, and by the time we left that little notion was shattered. It didn’t make her think about what she needed to work on or that she might be the problem. It just turned into “we aren’t compatible.”

Ask your friend if she suggests it like it’s some punishment for him, or if she thinks they both have issues to work on. What’s the tone of voice? P~~~ed off? Punishment. Interestingly, if that’s the case, I’d go just to throw it in her face and let her know that the fear of the unknown doesn’t scare me.

I would probably do it over again. If I was the guy, I’d probably agree to go just to take away the option of trying to hold it over his head. I just wouldn’t go into it think it was going to fix anything, because two people have to be willing to listen for it to have any chance of working and you only have control over yourself.

Good luck to your friend, he’s gonna need it.

Order the good wine

[Mr. SpockParticipant 10950]

Brother, there is no way to tell him nicely. Candy-coating never helped anyone. If he listens and doesn’t take the advice then he will no doubt tell his wife about your advice and if he doesn’t put some distance between you and him, his wife WILL make him do that. Not telling him the advice guarantees that outcome already because you know where this is going. You already said that you unfriended her on Fakebook so no doubt you are on her radar as an unfriendly.
I would try to friend her again on Fakebook so that you can be his eyes and ears on her social media. I would also give him the advice because whether he listens or not, gets mad and offended or not, you’re already on your way to having some distance put between you and your friend.
Good luck and keep us posted.

She's not looking for love. She's looking for someone to finance the lifestyle that SHE thinks SHE deserves.

[sidecarParticipant 35862]

Be Her Daddy wrote:

sidecar – You’re completely speaking truths, I understand them. I just don’t want to lose a good buddy because I told the truth that his wife is a complete bitch.

You lost him the moment he said: “I do.”

Now, out of respect for your former friendship, you owe him the honest truth. Withholding the truth from him just because you want him to think well of you is a little weaselly. It means his wife not only has his nuts in a vise, but yours as well. Sorry to be so blunt, but there it is.

[Eric LauderParticipant 12053]

He should:
1) Immediatly begin to hide money, cash.
2) Saying her he’ll work less but she have to give up to the school and find a job. He can add that when their situation will be more stable she could go again to school.

No counseling, it’s useless: they just would say it’s all his fault.

A little consideration: substance abuse is actually way more healthy than marrying a woman and economically supporting her schooling. She’ll never repay his efforts, it’s a given for her.
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[BeeParticipant 700]

Depending on her job, daycare may not be cost effective by the time you add in yhe costs off daycare, commuting, taxes, lunches, etc. I ran into this when my wife worked retail. It takes about $9 an hour to break even. Two kids you better have about $16 an hour, just to break even. This may be a legitimate problem.

Threatening divorce in a fight is unfair. It is like saying you have a bomb at can airport. Some things you just don’t say.

However, a friend once told me, once she threatens divorce, it will not get better. You may as well do it.

[Anonymous 3]

Crazy Canuck wrote:

You guys going over the top, the woman is pregnant. This is normal typical situation.

No. By personal experience I can say it is a LOT WORST than any other situation.
The woman is going to act like an inconsequential spoiled brat, and the guy cannot say or do anything without being accused of harming the baby.

[experiencedParticipant]

Another trick they’ll pull is to try to get you to go to Anger Management Counseling.
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Just kidding.

But to do so is an admittance of guilt IMO.
So, “no…I don’t think so, I don’t have an anger problem.
Any male in his right mind would be upset at the s~~~ you pulled.”

What a cast of clowns even her attorney tried unsuccessfully to bait me in court, tricking moron.

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[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

I’m not much of a gambler, but I’ve heard it said to never hold on to a losing hand.

If you get out early you will lose”x”. If you wait too long and let your losses run you may lose “10 x”.

I personally have mixed thoughts about counseling. If both parties wanted things to work, then I have seen rare instances where therapy helped people communicate and resolve differences.

The vast majority of the time, I have seen men raked over the coals. The expected value is not stellar.

When I went thru my divorce rape, my ex wanted to talk to a counsellor about why she hated men and it cost me 250/hour twice a week for months.
Didn’t resolve anything. Good luck.

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