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Alright boys Im a bit drunk and consequently I want to express myself.
In life there are two principals. Masculine and Feminine. Im not talking about the ones society uses to describe men and women. Im talking about the abstract concepts of creation. Give and take. Masculine and Feminine. One gives and one recieves. Yin and Yang. The Sun is Masculine and Earth is Feminine. One gives and one recieves. The Earth could not exist without the light, energy, and warmth the sun gives. But without Earth the sun would be a pointless construct with no reason to shine. That is my thesis. That is my argument.
To continue the analogy and even expand it, The sun is like the Father, the Moon is the Mother, Earth is their child. Their glorious creation that neither could have accomplished on its own. Both are necessary. Science has proven that Earth could not functionally exist without the moon.
Furthering that analogy. The sun never gets too close, for it would burn up anything too close. And anything too far will not recieve enough. Anything too far will freeze up, stop moving, become cold and bitter and die. Anything too close will become too hot, its particles moving too fast, and everything burns up in flames. This is how we men must behave. We must keep our distance. We must not get so close to women that our sexuality, our fire, burns everything to piece. But we must also not abolish our too far distance ourselves from lest we become cold, bitter, lifeless eunuchs.
The right distance is line of sight. Look at women, make eye contact, but nothing more. Love them endlessly, but from a distance as the sun does to Earth. Just looking is enough to absorb their subtle essences, their “building materials” spiritually speaking. You can then use those materials to create your own “Earth.” Or whatever it is you wish to create.
Masculinity is the plan, the vision, The Dream. Femininity is the materials and the refinement. Both are necessary. Architects need builders. Builders need architects. Just because one had the idea doesnt mean he is more important. I am also not saying MGTOW is wrong but hating women is. Women are necessary. Men must guide women as the mind (masculine) guides the heart (feminine). The mind has eyes, but the heart has legs. Both have to work together to accomplish anything. For one is blind but has legs (women) and the other is in a wheelchair but can see (men). I know, my argument is based on ideas and correlations, not evidence. But please give it some thought. Entertain this idea. Think on it.
There is and idea, a thesis. That thesis will spawn its opposite, an antithesis. The two are bound to collide and when they do, we recieve the true answer. A Synthesis. the best of both, the third path, the compromise. That is what I present here. A third option of loving women unconditionally, but from a distance. As God does. Not giving fishes but teaching people how to fish. Helping individuality not the personality. Helping people get closer to God. Not helping them with Earthly matters.
I dont know what your religious beliefs are but I know I included mine because its a part of me and my reasoning and the way I see the world If you have a different perspective please share. Also I am pretty drunk so this post may not be too coherent or spelled perfectly. This is just an idea I completed today. Love to hear what you guys think.
Im a bit drunk
I am not your father, but I suggest you quit the alcohol. It is not good for you. You are too strong and too smart to be drinking alcohol.
Im a bit drunk
I am not your father, but I suggest you quit the alcohol. It’s not good for you. You’re too strong and too smart to be drinking alcohol.
You right about that one
I do not hate women. I adore them. I respect them just like any other human being.
The only personal relationship I believe in having with a woman who is not my mother is marriage. Marriage is not something I see as a viable option for me right now. My reasons are specific to me. I am happy with my life and the tradeoffs for being single.
I do not hate women. I adore them. I respect them just like any other human being.
The only personal relationship I believe in having with a woman is marriage. Marriage is not something I see as a viable option for me right now. My reasons are specific to me. I am happy with my life and the tradeoffs for being single.
Gonna go ahead and agree with you Gambit. In my belief, only God has acheived perfect union and harmony in a TRUE marriage. That marriage will not be possible until women decide to serve God instead of themsleves. Cant help but making God a part of everything, because he is everything to me.
That marriage will not be possible until women decide to serve God instead of themsleves.
I agree. If I were to marry, the woman should marry me primarily for the reason you describe above, be between the ages of 14-19, have had no prior relationships and be a virgin. I may seem like a hypocrite but my experience has led me to believe that I will have the best shot with those prerequisites. There is still no guarantee things work out or I am any happier with my life.
That marriage will not be possible until women decide to serve God instead of themsleves.
I agree. If I were to marry, the woman should marry for the reason you describe above, be between the ages of 14-19 and have had no prior relationships. I may seem like a hypocrite but my experience has led me to believe that I will have the best shot with those prerequisites. There is still no guarantee things work out or I am happier with my life.
My friend gave me the NAWALT argument tonight. I told him that with the laws and conditions of today, its too risky to find out her real ideals if she has any. You dont truly know a woman until you marry her. Therefore I subscribe to AWALT because really finding out is FAR too risky. Even if NAWALT is true, AWALT is what you should go by. At least for now.
I told him that with the laws and conditions of today, its too risky to find out her real ideals if she has any. You dont truly know a woman until you marry her. Therefore I subscribe to AWALT because really finding out is FAR too risky. Even if NAWALT is true, AWALT is what you should go by. At least for now.
Exactly. The risk far outweighs the reward at the moment. You would be hard pressed to find a suitable mate given the environment in which we live. It’s nearly impossible. Society would have to change drastically for you to want to even take this risk. I don’t see things improving for hard-core red pill men like us.
Instead, we should focus on the benefits of such a society. We have a lot more freedom and a lot less social pressure. Take advantage of it. Build a great business, buy your dream car, go on your dream vacation, etc.
I told him that with the laws and conditions of today, its too risky to find out her real ideals if she has any. You dont truly know a woman until you marry her. Therefore I subscribe to AWALT because really finding out is FAR too risky. Even if NAWALT is true, AWALT is what you should go by. At least for now.
Exactly. The risk far outweighs the reward at the moment. You would be hard pressed to find a suitable mate given the environment in which we live. It’s nearly impossible. Society would have to change drastically for you to want to even take this risk. I don’t see things improving for hard-core red pill men like us.
Instead, we should focus on the benefits of such a society. We have a lot more freedom and a lot less social pressure. Take advantage of it.
I just really want to emphasize looking and loving. Looking is all you need. I can walk through a Farmers market (I live in a place in Southern Cali full of hot women) and when I combine what I see with deep breathing, I experience a high like no other. A supercharge of energy that I can barely contain. I made this post to bounce my ideas off others so bear with me and my replies. I may seem extreme but I only wish to surpass my limits and help others do the same. Look and absorb. Take no shame in it either. Men give looks, women recieve. Such is nature.
I just really want to emphasize looking and loving. Looking is all you need. I can walk through a Farmers market (I live in a place in Southern Cali full of hot women) and when I combine what I see with deep breathing, I experience a high like no other. A supercharge of energy that I can barely contain. I made this post to bounce my ideas off others so bear with me and my replies. I may seem extreme but I only wish to surpass my limits and help others do the same. Look and absorb. Take no shame in it either. Men give looks, women recieve. Such is nature.
There is nothing wrong with that. You are a young man with a lot of sexual energy (testosterone). You are wiser than most your age.
I don’t know MasterShake…you smell pretty blue pill to me. Better quit drinking, as Gambit recommended. “Love women endlessly”? Femininity is a required material? F~~~ that! It’s not about hating women! As I look out my window this morning, I see a racoon running about the yard. I don’t hate women any more then I hate racoons. They are around…they are a nuisance. Given the opportunity they will claw their way into your s~~~ and tear it apart. I don’t want to look at the racoon…I want to get a .50 cal metal bearing and slingshot his head open! Just for fun. ‘Cus I can, and because there are too damn many of them running around tearing through everybody’s s~~~. Can’t do that to a woman, of course. But…I can use the “feminist equivalent” of a .50 and spurn them. Deny them access to my resources, which are growing considerably because I do NOT ascribe to the notion that a woman is necessary for my happiness. No man needs a woman to be truly happy. In fact, and I have said it before: If a man cannot find happiness within *himself*, it is useless to seek it elsewhere. I’m not slamming ya for your post brother, but you have to read more. Go to the Introductions section: Go to the last page and start reading back. I am only on about page 100 but…I can feel and in turn learn from the pain other gents have gone through. I have my own, but mine is NOTHING compared to what some of these men have endured. All because of this idea you have in your head: That women are necessary and that we should “love” them…even from afar. F~~~ that! Today’s women are completely ugly and evil. The prettiest ones are the most DANGEROUS! They tend to be the most vapid, self centered, narcissistic and brutal creatures that ever walked the Earth. You need pussy? Then just say “I’m not red pill enough to do without pussy” and leave it there. Don’t try to convince others, please, that they should love something that cannot love them back. Your idea of love simply does not exist…except in your own head.
An educated, armed populace cannot be enslaved.
Anonymous38What a beautiful meditation, MasterShake.
There is and idea, a thesis. That thesis will spawn its opposite, an antithesis. The two are bound to collide and when they do, we recieve the true answer. A Synthesis. the best of both, the third path, the compromise. That is what I present here. A third option of loving women unconditionally, but from a distance. As God does. Not giving fishes but teaching people how to fish. Helping individuality not the personality. Helping people get closer to God. Not helping them with Earthly matters.
I am starting to agree. I need to have love in my life, life without it is intolerable. The question men like me face is how do we achieve this without sacrificing ourselves. Perhaps you have the answer.
Loving from a distance has never been natural to me. When I do something I do it completely, I am very much an all or nothing person. However I do not believe I am beyond overcoming this, ultimately it comes down to discipline / moderation which we know is necessary to become a refined man.
Anonymous0Horse s~~~
Stay away from women.
Whatever your life is without them
You will be much happierI don’t know MasterShake…you smell pretty blue pill to me. Better quit drinking, as Gambit recommended. “Love women endlessly”? Femininity is a required material? F~~~ that! It’s not about hating women! As I look out my window this morning, I see a racoon running about the yard. I don’t hate women any more then I hate racoons. They are around…they are a nuisance. Given the opportunity they will claw their way into your s~~~ and tear it apart. I don’t want to look at the racoon…I want to get a .50 cal metal bearing and slingshot his head open! Just for fun. ‘Cus I can, and because there are too damn many of them running around tearing through everybody’s s~~~. Can’t do that to a woman, of course. But…I can use the “feminist equivalent” of a .50 and spurn them. Deny them access to my resources, which are growing considerably because I do NOT ascribe to the notion that a woman is necessary for my happiness. No man needs a woman to be truly happy. In fact, and I have said it before: If a man cannot find happiness within *himself*, it is useless to seek it elsewhere. I’m not slamming ya for your post brother, but you have to read more. Go to the Introductions section: Go to the last page and start reading back. I am only on about page 100 but…I can feel and in turn learn from the pain other gents have gone through. I have my own, but mine is NOTHING compared to what some of these men have endured. All because of this idea you have in your head: That women are necessary and that we should “love” them…even from afar. F~~~ that! Today’s women are completely ugly and evil. The prettiest ones are the most DANGEROUS! They tend to be the most vapid, self centered, narcissistic and brutal creatures that ever walked the Earth. You need pussy? Then just say “I’m not red pill enough to do without pussy” and leave it there. Don’t try to convince others, please, that they should love something that cannot love them back. Your idea of love simply does not exist…except in your own head.
Think you missed the point there bud. The sun could go on shining forever but if theres no Earth to shine on whats the point. Im happy on my own but if you completely cut off love and sexuality you put out the fires that keep us here. The same error that made eunuchs out of the most extreme monks and aescetics. Eunuchs with no power, no LIFE. I don’t want to become one but I certainly wont end up a blue pill simp either. “The Middle Path,” as Buddha calls it, is what Im offering here, in detail.
What a beautiful meditation, MasterShake.
There is and idea, a thesis. That thesis will spawn its opposite, an antithesis. The two are bound to collide and when they do, we recieve the true answer. A Synthesis. the best of both, the third path, the compromise. That is what I present here. A third option of loving women unconditionally, but from a distance. As God does. Not giving fishes but teaching people how to fish. Helping individuality not the personality. Helping people get closer to God. Not helping them with Earthly matters.
I am starting to agree. I need to have love in my life, life without it is intolerable. The question men like me face is how do we achieve this without sacrificing ourselves. Perhaps you have the answer.
Loving from a distance has never been natural to me. When I do something I do it completely, I am very much an all or nothing person. However I do not believe I am beyond overcoming this, ultimately it comes down to discipline / moderation which we know is necessary to become a refined man.
To be even more specific: All I need from a woman is a glance. That split second of eye contact. The MOST subtle interaction. You cant get sexual harassment for it, you cant get divorced for it. Its a safe interaction. However I avoid everything beyond that. I dont stare, I dont talk to them, I dont involve myself with them. But when I want In n Out I go inside instead of the drive thru just so I can glance at all the people inside. Besides, as soon as I start talking to a woman I remember why I dont like to, shes usually REALLY STUPID. But yea thats a more practical explanation.
Again…your talking blue pill bro. I didn’t miss anything. You think you need women, for whatever reason: from whatever distance. You admit you *need* it, there for you are blue pill. Not that there is anything wrong with that: Just admit your status. If you need them…well…that’s blue pill. I don’t give 2 f~~~s about “the fires that keep us here” or any other feminine based metaphors. I don’t care if the Earth burns and every f~~~ing blue pill, mangina, cuck and their precious women burn up with it. And those eunuchs and monks you seem to be disrespecting: They have more respect from me then somebody fronting and saying he can’t live without even a “glance” from women. Your ship bro…you steer it. Just be careful or you will end up on the rocks.
An educated, armed populace cannot be enslaved.
Anonymous54An interesting annalogy.
Admire them from a safe distance.
Things in balance.
What I dont understand is how a guy can be drunk,
And still spell better than me.
Anonymous38Again…your talking blue pill bro. I didn’t miss anything. You think you need women, for whatever reason: from whatever distance. You admit you *need* it, there for you are blue pill. Not that there is anything wrong with that: Just admit your status. If you need them…well…that’s blue pill. I don’t give 2 f~~~s about “the fires that keep us here” or any other feminine based metaphors. I don’t care if the Earth burns and every f~~~ing blue pill, mangina, cuck and their precious women burn up with it. And those eunuchs and monks you seem to be disrespecting: They have more respect from me then somebody fronting and saying he can’t live without even a “glance” from women. Your ship bro…you steer it. Just be careful or you will end up on the rocks.
It is not blue pill to need women, it is human. In fact not being able to admit the truth is “blue pill”, and the truth is that your biological hardwiring dictates that you do yearn for women on some level, unless you are devoid this normal human male predisposition which would be extremely rare.
Blue pill would be taking that human need and moving heaven and earth to please that woman. But MasterShake is talking about a middle way which I believe may be a wise course of action for many men.
We are ever evolving, even as MGTOW, bro.
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