Marrying "someone" and a conversation about relationships

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    IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)
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    I am just going to list several things here that are related, but I can’t connect them, although they are related in some way, in regards to the assumption the norm is for a man to have a woman partner and marrying so the idea is to “settle”, I guess:

    * I have seen it, particularly with women, but also in general in the dating advice book, the idea of marrying “someone”. The idea is there is some generic placeholder a single is called upon to aspire to find and get ready for. The whole idea is to see how much settling will be done by a person, and how good they are as some sort of generic universal. The idea isn’t someone in particularly, just “someone”.

    * Related to this last point, I have seen this conversation pop up in the past few weeks, in a church setting. The idea was that you need to put “being friends” above “lover” (I would assume sexual attraction is what is meant here). In this, there is supposed to be some prioritization that would happen, which implies that both aren’t to happen. In it, the idea is you marry “your best friend”, or something along that lines, and looks aren’t really important and some bonus I guess. Well, when individuals end up thinking that the marrying is the norm, then it is a matter of how much they give up and what to hold onto.

    * Now, related to these last two points, is a practical experience I had. I move to a new city, and try to find a local church. I am trying to do the minimum at least connected with Church, get communion at least, at maybe get to know some people local and make friends and get support. Well, the priest there ends up asking if I wanted a girlfriend, and it is apparent he has a woman in her 40s or 50s in mind for me, who I have no physical attraction to now and also I seriously doubt I have anything in common with, in regards to interests. I didn’t have this at my old church in another area, but he is doing matchmaking with whomever comes in the door. The conversation about “best friend” was also part of this to, and came up. I told the priest that Paul said in 1 Corinthians that you aren’t to seek a wife, which was meant to end the conversation on this. It isn’t that I am per-se, opposed to having a woman as a partner now, just that I am interested in what works. And I seriously doubt that my randomly wandering in the door is going to end up meaning there is one woman there who would be a fit. The woman here ended up saying she wanted to be alone awhile.

    So, you have this, an implied belief that everyone pairs off, and it is just a matter of how much each in the relationship are willing to put up with, in order to have someone. Is it no wonder the divorce rate gets to around 50%? No one has a clue regarding this at all. There is just a need for everyone to have “someone”, as much as “someone” is merely a placeholder for a job title, that society expects to totally fill for someone, eventhough such is really next to impossible.

    In this, I had suggested men master being single and work on that, and not depend on this. I would say it “going MGTOW”, but apparently that ends up being a lot more than just staying single (I think it means taking some online courses and getting a degree in understanding the nature of women. At least that seems to be what I see with YouTube content, and factoring in how Stardusk does videos :-P). So, I will just saying master being single, and work on not needing a woman. Idea here is to grow very picky, and that can end up meaning not finding anyone. Given this reality, I say it would be best to stay single and master it, and not worry about it.

    Just my thoughts here. So, is the norm, in regards to the thinking (from what you see) that the idea is that everyone will eventually find “someone”?

    "I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

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    I’m from the USA Episcopal tradition myself, and my priest (who was married to be sure) was always trying to match me up with some female or other. My best guess with matchmakers is that they want the rest of us to ‘enjoy’ their marital bliss — or, to put it more accurately, suffer their marital misery.

    Full disclosure: The Episcopal and Church of England bishops in same-sex marriages got to be too much for me, mainly because my priest was all in for them doing that (and me too by strongly hinted implication). Nowadays, I stay home with my dog Sundays. The Lord has better things for me to do. Me turning queer or marrying a post wall single mother are not on His list as I read it.

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    Buller100
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    Great post, I saw a video people do “Settle for a person ” its the system as has been articulated here many times, clearly this is true.

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    Jan Sobieski
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    Start your own Church you say?

    Hmmm. The Church of MGTOW. I like it.

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    Like hazing ritualls they figure if i have to go thru so should you. The old shcool thinking was that in a marrage the sexuall atration will wear off over time. Then you will have frienship together. So you will look for a potentially good friend more than a good lover.Problem is a woman will never be your friend.I find spiritually in nature.Theres not some priest pimp daddy trying ro fix me up.

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    IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)
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    Why do you keep banging your head on this wall, Richard?

    Churches are now blue pill factories.

    You should star your own man. Seriously.

    As of now, that would be a church of one, and just me. It is the way of the monk/hermit, and it is what I deal with. That path has been known to generate a bunch of weirdness, historically, which is why I don’t formally own it, but do live it. Even my channel is on hold for this, and other reasons (MGTOW as a philosophy with certain beliefs, rather than a lifestyle, is a hangup for me also).

    The Orthodox Church, which I am affiliated with now, at least does have monks and hermits in it. It ends up more myself agreeing on major theological issues, than anything related to living.

    So, I am working on at least having some sort of fellowship, and maybe using my YouTube channel again, to see if I can get other men in my boat connected. I am just not sure how to do it, so I have it on hold. My next video would be thoughts from the offramp, where I look back at what I had done prior.

    "I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

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    IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)
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    Like hazing ritualls they figure if i have to go thru so should you. The old shcool thinking was that in a marrage the sexuall atration will wear off over time. Then you will have frienship together. So you will look for a potentially good friend more than a good lover.Problem is a woman will never be your friend.I find spiritually in nature. Theres not some priest pimp daddy trying to fix me up.

    I personally take s~~~testing as a form of it not working out, so I don’t try to go through it. I only put up with grief within myself, and cut myself slack as needed. Also, I find my lifestyle normally doesn’t have women, or too many people period, in it. I guess, from a lifestyle view, I have master being MGTOW, if MGTOW means being single, and owning it.

    "I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

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    Won'tGetFooledAgain
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    Look at all the women in the 30 and 40 on dating websites, the vast majority of them are “looking for a relationship”. This to me suggests they are not too bothered who it is with (obviously he has to meet every single one of their bulls~~~ checklist criteria), they just feel it is something they want to achieve.

    Personally, I think a relationship is something that just happens with the right person, it is not something you can force yet these women only care about the relationship, not what the person is actually like.

    The same thing happens with marriage, women spend their 20’s on the c~~~ carousel and once they start to hit the wall they suddenly have this urge to get married. It doesn’t really matter who it is, it will be the first person who comes along that meets her criteria. I always find it amazing that these women dated (i.e f~~~ed Alphas) for 15+ years and couldn’t find the one, yet once they hit 33 they marry the first wallet, I mean man who comes along.

    This is clearly because they feel in their 20’s they have everything going for them and they believe they can take their time as they have their pick.

    So if you are marrying a woman she is in love with the idea of marriage, not in love with you. To be honest you could be anyone really, you are just filling a need she feels she has at that point in her life. Don’t be surprised when she punches out in 5 to 7 years for the money and gets back on the c~~~ carousel.

    For women, everything eventually boils down to Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.

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    Eric Lauder
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    Why do you keep banging your head on this wall, Richard?

    Churches are now blue pill factories.

    You should star your own man. Seriously.

    Churches always have been blue pill factories.
    The thing that churches lost during recent decades is that churches were used to promote stay-at-home faithful wives, too.

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