MARRIAGE: THE ULTIMATE SCAM.

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22516]

Branched off wrote:

A Marriage only has any legal meaning when it is dead and buried.Marriage gets you nothing you didn’t already have while she loves you.It is only when she stops loving you that it means she can take all you have worked for and blow it.
Future historians will laugh at the cuck generations of western men who watched their culture sicken and die. They will point to the fact they even still married and laugh. Cucks! Marriage will make you a cuck one way or another. When your marriage is over you will be funding her while some other guy f~~~s her.

It did used to get men something when it actually was a two sided contract. He got kids, progeny. They were not the wifes kids. She produced them for his posterity. That was her part of the marriage contract. If she left, she left him, the house , his money, and the kids. But she was walking away from her agreement in the contract.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22516]

Beer wrote:

Branched off wrote:

A Marriage only has any legal meaning when it is dead and buried.

Its amazing how many people don’t get this. Marriage doesn’t mean she’ll love you forever. Marriage doesn’t mean she won’t cheat on you. Marriage doesn’t mean she won’t leave you. You don’t need to be married to have sex with a woman, live with her, or have kids with her.
Literally the only thing married people can do that unmarried people can not do is get divorced. Sounds like a pretty s~~~ty deal if you ask me lol.

It is literally government f~~~ing men over, on purpose. Under the pretext of being white knight protector/provider for women against evil men.

Where is government when you want to get married? Nowhere. you can get married in ten minutes to just about any willing person in vegas, drunk. Costs hardly anything. Sometimes its free. Small paperwork filing fee.

Government does nothing, prevents nothing.

Now, when you want to get divorced….that’s where government wants to take money from “the family”. To the tune of 60 billion dollars every year.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[TwistParticipant]

Stealth wrote:

You just described my ex.
Who turned out to be pure evil.
Biology trumps religious programming.
There are no Christian women.

#MeToo

Religious (Catholic School for years)
Virgin (knew her since 17)
check check check

It doesn’t mean jack s~~~.

AWALT

[TwistParticipant]

Secret Agent MGTOW wrote:

I do really wish the church was fair about men and women. always way more negative on guys, women are awesome.

I enjoy speaking to the priests in my parish – young, educated, surprisingly well-versed in the ills (drugs, divorce, etc.) of the world. But when I bring up this point – where is the sermon targeting those who destroy 80% of marriages/families/children, who choose 100% of the abortions – where is this sermon?

Crickets.

But the bulletin regularly carries the announcement for “healing after abortion” gatherings. How about “how not to be a c~~~ gatherings”?

When no-fault divorce became the law of the land the Catholic Church should have ceased performing state-recognized marriages. Period. Otherwise it is leading lambs to slaughter.

But no – the Church is so terrified of having its disgusting behavior exposed it just hides under a rock and hopes to survive.

[Won'tGetFooledAgainParticipant 3293]

Unfortunately it wasn’t until my divorce I realised the truth and that Marriage is indeed the ultimate scam. Not until I was living at my parents house at the ago of 40 with all my worldly possessions in two black bin liners, just exactly how badly I had been scammed. It wasn’t until I was so low that I was having very dark thoughts that I realised I had willingly given someone who I trusted with my life the power to destroy me in an instant.

She on the other hand was working part time, living in a five bedroom house, new car on the drive and riding the carousel hard before her looks abandoned her forever.

There was no remorse from her, right there and then she could not have cared less if I lived or died. Actually that is not 100% true, she needed me alive to keep going to the plantation and keep paying for everything.

17 years of work, getting up every day to commute to a bulls~~~ job I hated was taken away from me in an instant because she believed there was more exciting c~~~ out there. Another 13 years at least of child support and the constant demands for more money even though we have been divorced for six years now.

There you have it guys, being scammed out of 30 years of your earnings because you were blue pill enough to fall for the marriage scam and thought that is what you do to be happy.

The reality is for 95% of men marriage brings nothing but misery, it is the single biggest thing you can do to ruin your life.

It is so bad that six years on having lost a house and continuing to lose 20% of my salary every month I look back and think “could be worse, at least I am not married anymore”

For women, everything eventually boils down to Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

I just dont have time for a woman, and I dont like listening to their sh!t either.

She walks in all smelling perfumy and gabbing about this ~n that, mundane ear pulling noise. And Im expected to give witty retorts, smile and follow her around sniffing her ass?

Fvck that waste of time. I will be banging Heavy Metal on my bicycle and doing what the hell I want to do. Going my own way with or without your approval or permission.

ZFG ManOut Monk Ghost

dress down
hide your wealth
clean blood and sober mind

[Gravel PitParticipant]

Good writings MEN. People DO read this stuff. There are MANY lurkers even nowadays. I read it and so do they!

DONT GET MARRIED, JUST DONT.

I for one have read and listened to ALL the men’s stories here. The men twice my age or just 10 years ahead of me… I listened to their caution and Im better for it!

You will not die by staying away from women. You dont need cuddles. Icing women out of your life actually improves your health and happiness!

[Won'tGetFooledAgainParticipant 3293]

Gravel Pit wrote:

She walks in all smelling perfumy and gabbing about this ~n that, mundane ear pulling noise. And Im expected to give witty retorts, smile and follow her around sniffing her ass?

Yes, you are expected to give her attention and think how amazing she is because she has the golden vagina.

If you are a beta you are expected to put her on a pedestal and worship her because of how amazing she is. You are expected to be an orbiter and to help her out when her car/laptop breaks, she needs to borrow money, she needs a lift, she needs an emotional tampon to cry about some chad she is f~~~ing or take her out for dinner (and pay) if she is bored. Don’t get an ideas about sex though, as “ewwwwww, it would be like f~~~ing my brother, you are too nice”

If you are a chad then nothing is expected of you, feel free to cheat her like s~~~ and hook up for sex whenever you feel like it.

If you are a beta you are expected to wait in a holding pattern until the carousel ride comes to a halt and she panics about money, a house etc. Then you are allowed to pay full retail for that used up discarded pussy the chads got for sex. Not chad sex though, just boring sex which she knows is easily enough to snare you.

Then pay for everything for a few years until the inevitable divorce rape and back to the carousel.

That is what is expected

For women, everything eventually boils down to Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

Puffin Stuff wrote:

Secret Agent MGTOW wrote:

There is only one possible – not certain, but possible – way this doesnt happen, and thats if she has strong enough religious ,christian, restraints and truly believes she will have an eternal accounting for what she does here. This can also be strengthened if she grew up in a family environment where they enforced the golden rule concept fairly and equally across the girls, too.
Nothing can make it certain but these two things really can seriously lessen the chances.
It also helps if she didnt have sex with anyone before her husband, and if she has a good background in math and science areas, logic. She will be used to having to prove an answer and that many questions only have one right answer. Moral or mathematical.

You mean a unicorn:

LOL

Secret Agent MGTOW wrote:

i am talking about a female that was raised with genuine hypergamy restraints that keep her under control. More likely in flyover country. A more tradcon life, maybe from a family that didn’t get divorced.

I hear what youre saying Secret Agent. We get it bro. I think we both agree that, that crap helps UP TO A POINT. We prolly agree that you may have a “happy marriage” for 5 years or even 25 years, UP TO THE POINT where she finally hits the ejection button for a clean break, cash and prizes. Or like Matrix, he got the One Phone Call out of nowhere and was blindsided and fvcked over.

So yeah, a math wiz gash who you met in church who has never boned a guy is a sure bet, UP TO A POINT.
And time ran out for us anyway. Im not an Old Man, Im 33. But the chances of me finding that type of gal, say she is 27 or 28 (within 5 years of me) is very rare. And IF I find one, she will not be picture perfect to that mild NAWALT mold. She will have had a few gocks up her meat sleeve for sure; not that many, she aint a gock goblin yet, but a 28 year old girl is not a virgin, NO WAY.

Anyway… its all rainbows and gravy until it AINT.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

Won'tGetFooledAgain wrote:

until the carousel ride comes to a halt and she panics about money, a house etc. Then you are allowed to pay full retail for that used up discarded pussy the chads got for free. Not chad sex though, just boring sex

everything you said was Rockin’ ‘WontGetFooledAgain’

I especially like this. You make me laugh because that is all there is to do after you cry. Ive already cried about these revelations. Now I just laugh because its so plain and obvious. KEEP TELLING IT brother. This site has saved men’s lives.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

Secret Agent MGTOW wrote:

What i describe isn’t a unicorn. i am talking about a female that was raised with genuine hypergamy restraints that keep her under control. More likely in flyover country. A more tradcon life, maybe from a family that didn’t get divorced.

I think the problem here is if you ever take them out of flyover country they get corrupted. How many stories have you heard of men pulling sweet young women out of third world countries, marrying them, bringing them here, and 5 years later they are just as bad as every American c~~~?

Twist wrote:

But no – the Church is so terrified of having its disgusting behavior exposed it just hides under a rock and hopes to survive.

The only thing modern churches care about is money. Why do you think for example that after thousands of years of homosexuality being a sin, its now accepted by the church? Did an absolute all knowing god who supposedly existed for an infinite amount of time prior to the existence of modern man suddenly just change his mind?

[AwakenedParticipant 35201]

Twist wrote:

But the bulletin regularly carries the announcement for “healing after abortion” gatherings. How about “how not to be a cun+ gatherings”?

Yeah, now that would be one gathering that would be interesting to attend, but I’m imagining that I might NOT see a whole lot of Cupcakes attending…..LOL LOL LOL

IMHO, the church/religion is just so useless on just so many levels….What’s the point???

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22516]

Gravel Pit wrote:

Puffin Stuff wrote:

Secret Agent MGTOW wrote:

There is only one possible – not certain, but possible – way this doesnt happen, and thats if she has strong enough religious ,christian, restraints and truly believes she will have an eternal accounting for what she does here. This can also be strengthened if she grew up in a family environment where they enforced the golden rule concept fairly and equally across the girls, too.Nothing can make it certain but these two things really can seriously lessen the chances.It also helps if she didnt have sex with anyone before her husband, and if she has a good background in math and science areas, logic. She will be used to having to prove an answer and that many questions only have one right answer. Moral or mathematical.

You mean a unicorn:

LOL

Secret Agent MGTOW wrote:

i am talking about a female that was raised with genuine hypergamy restraints that keep her under control. More likely in flyover country. A more tradcon life, maybe from a family that didn’t get divorced.

I hear what youre saying Secret Agent. We get it bro. I think we both agree that, that crap helps UP TO A POINT. We prolly agree that you may have a “happy marriage” for 5 years or even 25 years, UP TO THE POINT where she finally hits the ejection button for a clean break, cash and prizes. Or like Matrix, he got the One Phone Call out of nowhere and was blindsided and fvcked over.
So yeah, a math wiz gash who you met in church who has never boned a guy is a sure bet, UP TO A POINT.And time ran out for us anyway. Im not an Old Man, Im 33. But the chances of me finding that type of gal, say she is 27 or 28 (within 5 years of me) is very rare. And IF I find one, she will not be picture perfect to that mild NAWALT mold. She will have had a few gocks up her meat sleeve for sure; not that many, she aint a gock goblin yet, but a 28 year old girl is not a virgin, NO WAY.
Anyway… its all rainbows and gravy until it AINT.

My point is i was clear that i wasnt saying it would prevent it. i said its possible, and the more restraints on hypergamy the less likely they will. in other words up to a point. also not every woman’s ‘up to a point’ is the same either. so yeah its a big minefield. i dont advocate marriage. but are there obviously less risky women than others? sure. is it genuine or an act, or how much of an act is it? that is what needs to be discovered, if you risk treading in the dating/relationship waters. me, never again.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22516]

Beer wrote:

Secret Agent MGTOW wrote:

What i describe isn’t a unicorn. i am talking about a female that was raised with genuine hypergamy restraints that keep her under control. More likely in flyover country. A more tradcon life, maybe from a family that didn’t get divorced.

I think the problem here is if you ever take them out of flyover country they get corrupted. How many stories have you heard of men pulling sweet young women out of third world countries, marrying them, bringing them here, and 5 years later they are just as bad as every American c~~~?

Twist wrote:

But no – the Church is so terrified of having its disgusting behavior exposed it just hides under a rock and hopes to survive.

The only thing modern churches care about is money. Why do you think for example that after thousands of years of homosexuality being a sin, its now accepted by the church? Did an absolute all knowing god who supposedly existed for an infinite amount of time prior to the existence of modern man suddenly just change his mind?

Homos are not accepted in my church as being sinless and that God is happy the way they are. the day they are I am gone and my pastor probably will leave the denomination as well. ex army chaplain. Its bad enough they never presch anything that would desl with womens negative qualities. The mothers day sermon is a total opposite of the fathers day sermon.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22516]

Beer wrote:

Branched off wrote:

A Marriage only has any legal meaning when it is dead and buried.

Its amazing how many people don’t get this. Marriage doesn’t mean she’ll love you forever. Marriage doesn’t mean she won’t cheat on you. Marriage doesn’t mean she won’t leave you. You don’t need to be married to have sex with a woman, live with her, or have kids with her.
Literally the only thing married people can do that unmarried people can not do is get divorced. Sounds like a pretty s~~~ty deal if you ask me lol.

I honestly wonder if they even listen to the vows. For better or worse. Richer or poorer. In sickness and health. i wonder if they even realize they apply to them as well.

They bail because ‘i’m unhappy’ FFS.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[Sky-OParticipant 18936]

Secret Agent MGTOW

I’ll post her 200 lies within a 52 day period of time in the next few days but PM messaging isn’t working for the forums right now.

I tried messaging iMickey503 about me rolling down to Portland when I am in Seattle in December and messaging isn’t working.

(Also: Sidenote – when I wrote down her top 200 lies on 200 index cards, I included all lies, not just the ones she told me. Like, for example, when her husband texted her one day after we finished a 3 hour fck fest, she texted him back that she was having lunch with her mom. I was right there – so I considered that a lie although not directly to me. – I realized that I needed to get out of that situation when I began assigning a rating system to her lies that I wrote on the index cards. Like, #01 – 04 based on seriousness and level of the lie. And used a yellow highlighter to indicate if a specific lie was to cover up a previous lie or lies. She eventually just started lying about everything. Habitually and pathologically. It was insane.)

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22516]

I really enjoy threads like this. Just so much good thought and info being put out there to digest.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22516]

Also appreciating how troll/fem free this sites been for a long time. I know we havent got new folks in awhile but it sure is good to have a solid core of guys discussing stuff without bullsh1t drama going on.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[GrumpyParticipant]

Secret Agent MGTOW wrote:

I honestly wonder if they even listen to the vows. For better or worse. Richer or poorer. In sickness and health. i wonder if they even realize they apply to them as well.

Allow me to play the retarded “Devil’s Advocate” here…
Nowhere does it state unequivocally HIM or BOTH in any marriage vow.
“Do you xyz take abc as YOUR lawfully wedded husband”.
To have and to hold.
For better or worse.
For richer or poorer.
In sickness and in health..
yada yada yada
Nowhere does it state him or his. Or for that matter her or hers. Or whose have/hold/better/worse/richer/poorer/sickness/health, however her/she/hers is automatically assumed and it is presumed that the husband will stand and deliver for her.

ghey moment…
<waves hands flamboyantly in the air>
discuss
<sashays out of the topic>

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

The rules of mgtow hold true in gay marriage of either sex. Women will always be polygamous. It’s in the extra X gene.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

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