Mangina says "MGTOW is becoming Cult-Like and Ideological"

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

I didn’t watch the entire video.

So this guy wants to find the perfect rattlesnake, I mean NAWALT.

Even if NAWALT existed, is it worth the time and effort to find it? In business terms, the expected value is low.

I usually don’t mention MGTOW to others unless I’m asked.

This guy is entitled to his opinion. I expect him to become “snake bit” as he plays with the NAWALT’s.

On to other things (the gym). Thanks

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Rather than listening and bothering to deconstruct that s~~~ for the f~~~-hundredth time….. here is an email that came on Sunday on exactly the same bent. Quotes are directly from the message. The reply is below. There was no reply of course, even though we bothered to answer their stupid questions.

But take special note of the way the questions are phrased:
• “Do you believe….”
• “If you believe….”
• “If you believe….”

They have no business saying “MGTOW is idealogical”, when everything happens in their f~~~ing heads. They THINK it’s all a belief system. The answers are not as important as how they phrase the question. It becomes clear when you answer the question with a better question.

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2016.08.14

Good afternoon and thank you for contacting.

do you believe all women are self-obsessed, gold-digging bitches by their very nature or as the result of cultural and sociological influences?

Of course not.

It would be silly, unrealistic and impossible for *ALL* women to be “self-obsessed, gold digging bitches by their very nature and/or as a result of cultural and sociological influences.”

But…. do those that ARE that way come with an identifiable warning label?

One could even answer your question with a question…..
Do YOU believe that *ALL* hand grenades will explode in your face when you pull the pin??

If you believe the first, don’t you have to ignore every single admirable woman as a rare exception to a rule?

If you believe ALL hand grenades will explode….. Wouldn’t you have ignore every single hand grenade that is a dud as a rare exception to the rule?? Because even “the exception” to the rule….. proves “the rule”.

Do you have any scientific basis on which to make that statement, or is it merely an opinion based on the kind of women who were attracted to you?

Do you have any scientific basis on which you make the statement “all grenades will explode in your face” , or is it merely an opinion based on the kind of grenades you have personally encountered?

After all, you don’t need to *PERSONALLY* murder someone to know that it’s wrong.

If you believe the latter, that women are this way because culture tells them to be, how is your stance superior to feminists, who claim men are sexually aggressive, only want women for their bodies and become violent, unfeeling monsters because of an unseen patriarchy?

Based on the other answers you just received , you are now forced to rethink this question and rephrase it.

Example:
“Men only want women for their bodies”

Wanting women for their bodies is biological destiny. Humans are DESIGNED that way. No-one can expect men to apologize for that in the same way that no one can expect a salmon to apologize for being designed to swim upstream. If a woman wants to be desired for anything ELSE….. that’s not up to a man anyway. It’s going to be up to HER.

In my opinion, feminism and MGTOW are both running in circles, and just arguing for whether it is preferable to run clockwise or counterclockwise.

Then just remove your “opinion” from the equation and concentrate on the facts.
You’re obviously not as clever as you think.

Have a nice day.
– MGTOW.COM

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[DauntlessParticipant 403]

MGTOW is becoming cult-like and ideological.

That’s cute.

But no, actually, it’s not. Couldn’t be further from the truth.
There’s way too much thought conflict going on here for anyone to claim MGTOW is becoming “cult-like” and “ideological”. Just because there are certain guidelines to follow in order to be considered part of something does not make it cult-like.

The whole world might as well be called such if that’s the case. Take one look at social media, and you’ll see far more “cult-like” and “ideological” tendencies, with all the thought and speech censoring going on.

TL;DR — he can take his logical fallcy-vomit and shove it right back up his arse.

"To live is to suffer; to survive is to find some meaning in the suffering." - Friedrich Nietzsche

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Dauntless wrote:

Couldn’t be further from the truth.

If MGTOW were a “cult” you would be told what to do, what to wear, what to think, and what to drink, and you would be REQUIRED to comply. We all know what the MGTOW response to that would be:

“Go fVck yourself.”

Cults don’t work like that.

Feminism is a cult though.
Because it FAILS the moment anyone refuses to subscribe to it.

It should already be obvious MGTOW is the anti-cult. Whatever regularly swallowed programming & blue-pill you attempt to feed a MGHOW, he will spit it out like it’s poisonous.

Disney Fairy Tales and “happy endings” are a cult and a belief people chase well into their adult lives, like a marriage contract is “all about love”. That’s a cult belief. But every MGHOW knows “happy endings” are just stories that haven’t finished yet.

Here’s one of those cult members now. Observe the plastic smile and glazed-over eyes.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[DauntlessParticipant 403]

Keymaster wrote:

If MGTOW were a “cult” you would be told what to do, what to wear, what to think, and what to drink, and you would be REQUIRED to comply.

Precisely.

It’s just more proof these anti-feminists and what-not have no clue what they’re babbling about.
They’re all all-hat but no cattle.

"To live is to suffer; to survive is to find some meaning in the suffering." - Friedrich Nietzsche

[DorkShitParticipant 4353]

When someone says NAWALT they mean a particular woman is not like that to them up until this moment in time.

All women are fema-devils. They just move from the nice to evil spectrum within their nature depending on the situation at hand and how it applies to them. I have never met a woman yet that I can’t succeed at with getting the red eye glare.

Peace brothers

[TaxGuyParticipant]

Keymaster wrote:

But every MGHOW knows “happy endings” are just stories that haven’t finished yet.

Happy endings are what you get when she does the massage right.

Order the good wine

[Anonymous 42]

Keymaster wrote:

Here’s one of those cult members now. Observe the plastic smile and glazed-over eyes.

Aren’t prenups out of our jurisdiction?

She has no idea the slippery slop a woman is on when foolishly trying to sink her legal meat hooks into a MGHOW!

MGTOW know a man will give up everything when he’s hanging on Cinderella’s meat hook!

[HermitParticipant 136]

Anonymous wrote:

I can’t believe how often women (and men) say this to excuse any type of female behaviour.

If women have the courts in their corner and there is no equality under the law, THAT fact nullifies the NAWALT bulls~~~.

They also only refer to “NAWALT” only when women are being criticzed. They never say that s~~~ when women are being praised/admired. That blatant hypocrisy is so f~~~ing stupid.

Buller100 wrote:

Some dude started rabbiting to me Sunday in a bar, I dropped a few facts in and he said ‘ You bitter ‘

Haha, I got that a lot when I tried warning men on other websites about marriage and s~~~. That’s when I just said “f~~~ it” and left them to stick their own hands on the burners. They need to learn on their own if you put your hand on a hot stove, they’ll get burnt.

sidecar wrote:

Notice how all the c~~~s, both male and female, who try to claim NAWALT never EVER put their money where their mouth is?

Yep. They never get married themselves. They never cohabitate with women themselves. They never have long term relations~~~s. They’re just spreading gynocentric bulls~~~ without practicing what they preach.

uchibenkei wrote:

I see some extreme mgtow and some very paranoid mgtow.

But how in the f~~~ can you be an “extreme MGTOW?” That doesn’t make sense to me and never will. That’s like saying “Dude, you’re being extreme about not wanting to put your hand on the stove and get burnt.” I don’t buy that at all.

Anonymous wrote:

End of story: He’s f~~~ed, we’re not.

He definitely is.

Anonymous wrote:

NAWALTs don’t have tattoos.

They also don’t sleep with a bunch of Chad Thunderc~~~s before marriage. I don’t want another man’s sloppy seconds.

Anonymous wrote:

When manginas get bableing and ranting,my brain senses female crap and cant listen.

Same here. My brain just shuts off. I can stomach watching videos like this, but that’s about it. I just couldn’t handle it in real life.

Keymaster wrote:

Do you have any scientific basis on which you make the statement “all grenades will explode in your face” , or is it merely an opinion based on the kind of grenades you have personally encountered?

That’s the best rebuttal to their stupid statements I’ve seen. It just throws the “NAWALT” argument out the window.

Keymaster wrote:

Wanting women for their bodies is biological destiny. Humans are DESIGNED that way. No-one can expect men to apologize for that

Exactly. If I did ever interact with women outside of work/family, I’d only ever interact with them because I wanted to f~~~ them. That’s the only real reason men and women interact with each other outside of work/family.

Keymaster wrote:

If MGTOW were a “cult” you would be told what to do, what to wear, what to think, and what to drink, and you would be REQUIRED to comply.

Yep. The only thing we MGTOW have in common by default is that we’re red-pill men going our own way. Nothing else is required to be a MGTOW. Unlike feminism.

Feminism is one of the worst death cults ever conceived of. It requires you to lie, cheat, and man-bash every man out there who has ever existed. MGTOW is the only real protection from feminists. If gynocentric dumbasses can’t grasp that, then they can go f~~~ themselves. No f~~~s given.

[Anonymous 25]

First, I posted research on the attributes of cults recently. Mgtow has no leader and no common aims or goals. We are all just going our own way and doing our own thing. Mgtow did not meet the definition of a cult based on research of the traits of cults. Completely different to feminism, which did meet the criteria for a cult.

Second, he says “work on yourself and meet a nawalt” blah blah blah.

I’ve come to refer to this as my ‘Unified Awalt theory’. The point is that the system is like that. It is human nature to go along with the system. If we are referring to divorce or child custody, women will go along with the system. Human’s will even give other human’s potentially fatal electric shocks, because they are so obedient and go along with authority and the system. The research after how WW2 happened is here:

http://www.simplypsychology.org/milgram.html

Unified awalt theory says all women are like that, because the system is like that. Women screw men over in divorce and take all their money, because the system encourages it and authority figures tell them to.

Ironically, by not giving a f~~~ and going our own way, it will likely break the system but that’s not our goal. Living according to our own best interests is.

Be this guy:

If there are any women being that guy and going against the cult of feminism, then I’m ok with those women. That’s not misogyny. About the only woman I can see repeatedly and genuinely doing that though is Erin Pizzey. So, credit to her.

[ExpendableYouthParticipant 381]

I replied to that one on his Youtube, here were my thoughts:

I don’t like the publisher’s overall view. You are taking a few bad apples and throwing them in with the entire barrel. Labels are only what you make of them. But you are entitled to your opinion, informed or not. I do not hate women, I do not look down to women. I have had multiple relationships with women. I never got married, nor do I have any children with women. I don’t live in my parent’s basement (I live in my own house), and I have a full time job. I treat the women about the same as the man if I am passing by them. So tell me, how is this cult-like?

What is so bad about not caring about what society tries to project onto the public? I do my own thing, I could care less what is popular. I always figured you only have one life to live, shouldn’t you live it YOUR OWN WAY? I’m not some pedophile or some sick twisted mentally ill patient, I am just simply a man who goes about his life on his terms. Why are you trying to associate a negative association with this? The fact I do not bother, should not make me a bad person. It makes me a controlled person in charge of his own destiny, not someone else’s.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

Anonymous wrote:

Second, he says “work on yourself and meet a nawalt” blah blah blah.

Wonder why manginas always think this has to be your goal. What if I just want to work on myself so I can be happier with myself and enjoy my life? Are goals of keeping fit or saving some money to do some traveling somehow not worthwhile because I’m just doing it for me and not to attract pussy?

But you know…according to this guy if I’m just doing things like that for my own satisfaction and enjoyment…apparently I’m part of a cult lol.

[Anonymous 2]

NAWALT is a stupid, irrelevant argument. It doesn’t matter whether or not all women are like that. The point is that the SYSTEM is completely rigged against men! You don’t take part in a system that puts you in a position where you have nothing to gain and everything to lose! Who the f~~~ in their right mind would want to give another person the power to destroy their life, especially when the government makes it an INCENTIVE to that person if they choose to destroy your life?!

MGTOW is an anti-gynocentrism stance, plain and simple. Saying that MGTOW is a cult because they are anti-gynocentrism is like saying the NAACP is a cult because they are against white supremacy. If they want men to get married, then they need to change the system or quit their bitching! They’re just p~~~ed that men are no longer choosing to take part in a system that treats them as worthless disposables whose only purpose is to sacrifice for the benefit of women and the government. Oh, those poor women will no longer be able to f~~~ men over anymore! Boo f~~~ing hoo!

[Anonymous 1]

Where do I collect my cyanide laced kool-aid?

Gasping over here….well I should be.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Anonymous wrote:

Aren’t prenups out of our jurisdiction?

Nah. Pre-nups are the ultimate s~~~ test to put on a woman. If she balks even the slightest amount about signing one, then you KNOW she’s only in it for your money, not you. So you don’t marry her.

Of course if she willingly signs it without even reading it (note: this never happens), still don’t marry her. She probably knows how useless pre-nups are in court.

tl;dr: Use pre-nups to s~~~ test women. Don’t actually marry any of them.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Hermit wrote:

They also only refer to “NAWALT” only when women are being criticzed. They never say that s~~~ when women are being praised/admired. That blatant hypocrisy is so f~~~ing stupid.

I can’t thumb that up enough.

“Why are women such greedy, backstabbing manipulative gold-diggers?”

“NOT ALL WOMEN ARE LIKE THAT!!!!”

“All women are perfect and beautiful.”

“YESSSSSSS!!!!”

They are totally full of s~~~.

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It gets fascinating with those who use the “NAWALT” argument realize she has just ADMITTED she knows most women are like that.

If most women were not like that, they would say “most women are not like that”. But they know most women are. So they say “not all”. After all. One in a billion is still …. “not all”.

As far as NAWALT is concerned, 3 things will always be consistent:

1. The way they phrase it (“not all”) as if totally scripted or rehearsed

2. It reveals even they know most women ARE like that.

3. It does nothing to prove SHE is not like that.

+ there is a HIGH probability she is exactly “like that”.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Anonymous wrote:

Be this guy:

Exactly. Who is the “MGTOW” and who is “the cult”.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 42]

I wanna be like Mikey!

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Hermit wrote:

Yep. They never get married themselves. They never cohabitate with women themselves. They never have long term relations~~~s. They’re just spreading gynocentric bulls~~~ without practicing what they preach.

And their claims like: “MGTOW can’t get laid. MGTOW are losers. MGTOW live in basements.” and so on are all pure projection. Because they would know all about never getting laid and living in basements. If they were getting laid regularly, and on their own terms, they wouldn’t give a f~~~ about whether or not other men do. I certainly don’t.

[the roadParticipant 3125]

Lol, even if being MGTOW was deemed a criminal offense, I would just go underground with it. There is no way I’m giving up my beliefs in going my own way after what I have seen and lived through.

#MANOUT

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