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Its actually the other way around: because you WANT TO GIVE, women dont value it. The fact that YOU WANT TO GIVE anything, in their mind, makes THEM the valuable ones and you the beggar.
It doesn’t matter if its real or fantasy, if the one giving has intrinsic value and the receiver has no practical value at all. Women work with appearances, and not reality.
So, it is the romantic indoctrination of men that create the problem. When you deal with reality and facts men have all through value and women should be doing the pursuing.
This is excellent analysis. A fresh way of looking at things I haven’t thought of before, but makes perfect sense.
Don’t forget the calls to the news channels so she could share her ‘grief’.
I was wondering… how does this make the news?
I can’t bring myself to criticize this man. If a life was lost, it was still a life, and she is still grieving, and I can’t laugh at that.
However, what I did do when I first read the article is question if it actually happened. It doesn’t pass the sniff test to me. Nothing in this article makes sense. The author… Jashodhara Mukherjee ??? Who the fvck has a name like that and writes perfect English? Such a person did not, by any means, write this article, which means it was translated from the African, or written by an American and the name is made up (along with what else is made up?)
What the hell are those tattoos on that guy? Have you ever seen tattoos like that? Anybody recognize those wierd symbols?
Let’ examine the facts:
Dude is wearing an expensive fvcking watch. Nobody brings their thousand dollar watch under water.
Nobody who has a watch that expensive has hand-writing like a kindergardner.
Nobody from Louisiana has ever, in the history of man, “vacationed” in Tanzania. Christians from the deep south go on mission trips there, but do not “vacation” there. If anything about this story is accurate, then it was a mission trip. This man could have been murdered. Missionaries do get murdered, for 1.) being missionaries, and 2.) having expensive watches…
The article does not say how the man died. Just says he didn’t reach the top. So… why not? How did he die? Did he drown? Did he hold his breath too long? An untrained diver can not hold his breath to be under water that long, and probably can not be deep enough that they wouldn’t be able to reach the surface. How deep was he? Are these people even real?
This is some basic logic: If he was shallow enough then the girlfriend would have seen how he died, because she could see to the surface. If he was eaten by a shark, there would be blood everywhere. If he drowned, he would have floated right up. But if he was so deep that she could not see him to the surface, he would not have made it down that deep without proper equipment, and would not have been able to withstand the pressure. Also, there is nothing in the picture that appears to allow him to be down for any period of time without floating to the top. The explanation proposed by this article is not even possible.
When I first saw that article I thought the girl was Tanzanian. Is she in on it? Was it a theft? Article says she is from the Louisania. There are people in the Deep South named Kenesha Antoine, however, they are not dating guys named Steven Weber, and they sure as hell don’t attend the same church. Where would these two meet in the deep south? This doesn’t seem to add up. Not impossible, but highly improbable.
The girl has a very EXPENSIVE hair braid.
Wait a minute… WAIT A MINUTE!!! What the FVCK??? I just read the last line of the second article. It says:
Mandy Hoffman, Weber’s sister, told the news website that the family is yet to talk to the authorities in Tanzania. “We know he drowned but we don’t know the circumstances surrounding that,” she said. “He dove down to propose but never came up.”
He never came up? There’s no body?? The authorities are keeping silent? What the fvck??
This whole thing didn’t make sense from the first few lines. If that last paragraph in the article is true, then this man could be murdered, if any of this is even true. Something seems totally off here.
One other thing… I know I have seen that guy’s face before. I don’t know where, but I have seen it.
They recovered his body. But yeah, you really cant believe any of this crap anyway. Its just weird fake news crap meant to get Ginas tingling. Click bait… The whole thing is probably made up…
I agree that something felt off about the story to me when I first read it. One can’t say what exactly is wrong because there is just a lack of evidence but that lack coupled with the highly unlikeliness of his not coming back up from a short dive and her not being bothered to go look for him to accept his proposal means something is off.
She managed to get her phone out and video him proposing which I think is unlikely unless he was doing a second run for her to video. The first time he did it she would be trying to work out what the hell he was doing and read the paper.
Could be that after the proposal they drank a lot that evening and he went swimming and never came back and she just thought it made a better story?
Could be some local lad liked his woman and his watch?
Its unlikely but it could even be that he had a big insurance policy from which she would benefit?
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Come to think of it, it did pass my mind, but I did not give it much thought. But if they were in Africa? And he went for a swim there? IN A LAKE? Yea.. Not a BRIGHT idea! Lots of critters in Africa to kill ya. But.. It DOES seem weird. Like What dude just DIES swimming? I can hold my breath easy for 30 seconds.
All in all, DO NOT GO TO AFRICA! But other then that? It sure does not add up. But that’s only cus the more intelligent logic based thinkers seem to catch these things.
I just saw the story on twitter and never thought much of it.
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Anonymous3This is excellent analysis. A fresh way of looking at things I haven’t thought of before, but makes perfect sense.
I am becoming convinced that many things we are indoctrinated with works the other way around.
Let us think about what makes a “good person”. The standard “good man” is nothing more than a punching bag, respected by nobody.
Apparently people dont think you are a “good man” if you are incapable of doing harm.
It is only when you SHOW THAT YOU CAN BE REALLY BAD, but afterwards refrain to do bad things, that people think you are good and respect you.
The respect part comes from fear, they will be careful not to p~~~ you of.But that is not what we are told. We are told to control our nature, under the certainty the our inherent nature is bad.
If we harness our instinctive behavior and act according to “the rules” then we are supposed to be “good”, yes?
No, it just makes us predictable and safe. What women love in these guys is being easy to control and “safe” to abuse. But they really hate a spineless man, that is incapable of giving them the “gina tingles”.Clu wrote:Its actually the other way around: because you WANT TO GIVE, women dont value it. The fact that YOU WANT TO GIVE anything, in their mind, makes THEM the valuable ones and you the beggar.It doesn’t matter if its real or fantasy, if the one giving has intrinsic value and the receiver has no practical value at all. Women work with appearances, and not reality.So, it is the romantic indoctrination of men that create the problem. When you deal with reality and facts men have all through value and women should be doing the pursuing.This is excellent analysis. A fresh way of looking at things I haven’t thought of before, but makes perfect sense.
A blue pill man is normally rewarded with a woman that provides sex regularly, if not on demand, well as being what appears to be a woman that will do anything to keep her man “happy”. Therefore, the bait is presented and accepted followed by the hook being set where reeling in the fish may offer a little bit of a fight, but is reeled in never the less.
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This is excellent analysis. A fresh way of looking at things I haven’t thought of before, but makes perfect sense.
I am becoming convinced that many things we are indoctrinated with works the other way around.Let us think about what makes a “good person”. The standard “good man” is nothing more than a punching bag, respected by nobody.Apparently people dont think you are a “good man” if you are incapable of doing harm.It is only when you SHOW THAT YOU CAN BE REALLY BAD, but afterwards refrain to do bad things, that people think you are good and respect you.The respect part comes from fear, they will be careful not to p~~~ you of.
But that is not what we are told. We are told to control our nature, under the certainty the our inherent nature is bad.If we harness our instinctive behavior and act according to “the rules” then we are supposed to be “good”, yes?No, it just makes us predictable and safe. What women love in these guys is being easy to control and “safe” to abuse. But they really hate a spineless man, that is incapable of giving them the “gina tingles”.Funny, I was just watching this video last week:

Anonymous2In this case, I think you’re overthinking this OP. From what I can see, the guy just did something stupid and paid the price.
Sister of man who drowned while proposing to girlfriend says would-be fiancee ‘distraught’In this case, I think you’re overthinking this OP. From what I can see, the guy just did something stupid and paid the price.Sister of man who drowned while proposing to girlfriend says would-be fiancee ‘distraught’
You’re right. I am way overthinking it. The first article I read was really wierd. But now I have read other articles, and it does look like a cigar is just a cigar.
I think I was internally hoping it would be something much more involved… or a hoax, because then I wouldn’t have to be so damn distraught that a man just plain drowned proposing to his girl.
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