Male Friends

[6shinystonesParticipant 51]

I have/had three very good friends. In my mind, that is. When these friends get girlfriends, they spend a lot less time communicating/hanging out. This is normal, I guess.

But never before has all three of them been in a relationship at the same time, so now I’m out in the cold with all of them. Two of the friends are in their first LTR, one their second LTR. I have a good relationship with all of these friends, and value each of them, but they do not seem to value me in the same way.

It is always up to me to start conversations, to make the phone calls, to offer to hang out, none of them initiate. It does seem like, in all three cases, that I am the only one making effort to maintain the friendship.

At what point do you stop?

I have been making exponential gains in growth/development with my free time. But I don’t want to “throw away” these few friendships I’ve developed over my life. But again, I seem to be the only one putting in the effort.

I went from hanging out to these guys weekly, to a semi-annual/annual basis. They seemed to stop communicating when entering their LTR in two cases, and upon moving away in the other case. I thought perhaps it was me, and that I’m not fun to be with anymore, but when we do hang out, it’s a fun/enjoyable time for all.

Has anyone else here experienced anything similar? What do you do?

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22515]

Many men undervalue good male friends. They think pussy is superior.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[bladeParticipant]

6shinystones wrote:

is always up to me to start conversations, to make the phone calls, to offer to hang out, none of them initiate. It does seem like, in all three cases, that I am the only one making effort to maintain the friendship.

This is why is another reason to have jigsaw friends .

Have different groups of friends unknown to each other .

If your always chasing your mates up all the time they will become board .

But there are heaps of pussy beggers out there that put pussy first and feel threatened by anyone with out a vagina .

Those guys will return p~~~ing and moaning how she f~~~ed him over .

Sit back watch it unfold every time .

Join a dude hobby .

You sound like a young dude . Lots of sports and hobbies to join to expand your friendships .

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[6shinystonesParticipant 51]

Secret Agent MGTOW wrote:

Many men undervalue good male friends. They think pussy is superior.

The funny thing is two of these guys have sworn off ever getting married, and yet yes, I cannot compete with the pussy. The years and good times had do not amount to enough to warrant consideration when the alternative is pussy. I am taken for granted, I will always be there.

blade wrote:

6shinystones wrote:

is always up to me to start conversations, to make the phone calls, to offer to hang out, none of them initiate. It does seem like, in all three cases, that I am the only one making effort to maintain the friendship.

This is why is another reason to have jigsaw friends .

Have different groups of friends unknown to each other .

If your always chasing your mates up all the time they will become board .

But there are heaps of pussy beggers out there that put pussy first and feel threatened by anyone with out a vagina .

Those guys will return p~~~ing and moaning how she f~~~ed him over .

Sit back watch it unfold every time .

Join a dude hobby .

You sound like a young dude . Lots of sports and hobbies to join to expand your friendships .

I do feel like I’m begging them to hang out sometimes, even though I only initiate contact about once a month. I am going to have to get new friends. I guess trying to preserve these old ones when they don’t seem to value our past as I do, is just laziness on my part. I do need to change my reality, thanks for the advice.

[UntamedParticipant]

Sounds like you value their friendship more than they value yours.
I’ve always had a rule about friends: I do not run after them. If they can’t bother to call me or want to hang out then it’s fine by me because I value my solitude over anybody’s friendship.

If you’re the one always calling and asking to hang out then it explains why they do not bother to seek you out. Why should they? They know you’re gonna call. They’re taking you for granted.
Don’t make yourself so available and always present when they need you.
Also, your friends are full-blown deluded Bluepillers with bitches to rule over them and you’re going your own way. You’ll have less and less in common as time goes by.

Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!

[bladeParticipant]

Bro go check out our other topics like cool s~~~ and fun stuff hobbies and sports galore ideas .

Jim01 does heaps of topics on video games . If i remember there was two young dudes on here once that went and played online if ya into gaming .

Get out into nature on your own and sit in silence .

We got a skyo who is into sky diving and is always meeting new people .

You dont need lots of money to meet new people .

Maybe astronomy . You dont even need a telescope to join .

Going out partying well . Always remeber

YOU ARE WHO YOU ASSOCIATE WITH SO DONT BE QUICK TO JOIN .

Fealing you need to keep people happy and pleased for people to be liking you is a big mistake . People see that as a weekness unfortunately .

Always be who you are and remember it

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[ghostParticipant]

You don’t need those losers anymore. They’re not going to change. The more time you spend alone, the less you will need them.

[AttonParticipant]

Enjoy the good time and leave it like that.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[Point Of No ReturnParticipant 4074]

Reciprocity, very important. You give, you wait, then expect to receive, and not to have to give again. If your invitation isn’t eventually returned then it’s their way of sheepishly saying “Thanks, but no thanks.”, time to move on.

Know when it is your duty to give them zero explanations for your actions.

[black_knightParticipant 2602]

6shinystones wrote:

At what point do you stop?

Now.

6shinystones wrote:

Has anyone else here experienced anything similar? What do you do?

Yes. I stopped initiating contact.

[FunInTheSunParticipant 8283]

I had a couple of friends that I would hang out with a lot—almost every weekend when I was in my 20s. Both of them got married during the same year. I don’t talk to one friend. We just grew apart. I still talk to my other friend. He’s my best friend since high school, and I get along with his wife very well. I call him once in a while and visit a few times a year. Married guys are just busy making sure their wives and kids are taken care of. That’s just the way it is. I also have a buddy I met in the Army. We send e-mail now & then. My friends live in California, but we live many miles apart.

Perhaps it’s best for single guys to hang out with other single guys. We seem to have more free time.

"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)

[DeepInThoughtParticipant 2710]

Secret Agent MGTOW wrote:

Many men undervalue good male friends. They think pussy is superior.

I was guilty of this back in my 20’s. Im 42 now, definitely would never let that happen again. Especially at my age, and some of the lads here may agree, my mates are more important to me now than ever.

[6shinystonesParticipant 51]

Point Of No Return wrote:

Reciprocity, very important. You give, you wait, then expect to receive, and not to have to give again. If your invitation isn’t eventually returned then it’s their way of sheepishly saying “Thanks, but no thanks.”, time to move on.

I would tell myself they’re just forgetful, or something came up, but it happens often. It’s just so hard to believe when you look back at all those great times, and think that those people don’t find you worthy of attempting to relive those times.

blade wrote:

Bro go check out our other topics like cool s~~~ and fun stuff hobbies and sports galore ideas .

…

Always be who you are and remember it

Thanks for the suggestions blade. I used to be into video games, then used to be into cars, now I got to do some self-reflection and find something else.

Untamed wrote:

If you’re the one always calling and asking to hang out then it explains why they do not bother to seek you out. Why should they? They know you’re gonna call. They’re taking you for granted.

This is an excellent point. All I can say is thank god for the internet. Thank you all.

[Anonymous 1]

Yeah, all my friends are on an annual basis. Sometimes even less than that. What can you do? These Men got LTR and pussy problems. My one friend married a single Mom and is raising some other Man’s bastard. Unfortunately, they have been cucked and I feel no desire to hang out with them anymore.

[DarkRyuParticipant 2354]

6shinystones wrote:

It is always up to me to start conversations, to make the phone calls, to offer to hang out, none of them initiate. It does seem like, in all three cases, that I am the only one making effort to maintain the friendship.

At what point do you stop?

Immediately. They obviously don’t give a s~~~ about you. People are very superficial and selfish. Most people can’t see through the wall of BS that people put up. I can. That’s why I don’t have many friends. It’s rare to find a REAL person these days that’s not a selfish narcissist. Don’t trust what you see on the outside. It’s a facade and it’s not real.

[hollowtipsParticipant 681]

This is normal especially during the honey moon phase where you get more pussy than you can handle. Try to keep in contact with them and build wealth, have adventures and have fun enjoying your free time. They’ll likely come crawling back one way or another and you can help them get back on their feet if they’re break up or divorce was really bad. I’d definitely let a friend stay at my house after a divorce for a couple months even if I thought he was a simp.

[AstroParticipant 2045]

I lost some friends when I went MGTOW and drove others away in my red-pill rage, I even lost family. The few that stuck around? Those were my true friends all along. Lately, I have been finding a few new friends and most of them are MGTOW. Friends come and go but what is more important is that so far, I have kept myself.

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