Male birth control in 2018

[narwhalParticipant]

I’m not seeing a game changer, at least not immediately.

First off, it isn’t here yet. There is much testing and approval that needs to happen before you see it on the market.

Second, there is going to be the cost. This is going to be expensive, and I would not be surprised if it’s not covered by insurance. Then again, Viagra is. And although an insurance company won’t be responsible to pay for the man’s baby, there is a decent chance that momma is under the same insurance plan. Therefore it definitely could be a cost savings insurance wise. As well, female birth control often comes with other expenses from side effects, while this likely will not.

Third, is will men actually use it? Many men will not want a shot in the b~~~~ and opt for a condom, or the vasectomy route. You still need STD protection, so it’s not like you can do without the condom unless you have a tested partner. If you’re in a relationship, there’s a good chance she’s going to discourage you from getting it. She’ll claim you don’t trust her. She’ll say it’s an unnecessary waste of money. Depending on how frequently you have to get reapplication, you may have difficulty hiding it from her.

This is a step in the right direction, but it needs to be cheap and easy before it’s going to really change the game.

Then again, I would not be surprised if feminist fully jump on board and push this towards cheap and easy. They may think it liberates them from having to use birth control, let men have to deal with what we’ve dealt with for decades. They’ll believe they won’t really be giving up any control over births because men in relationships will only use it as directed by a woman.

Ok. Then do it.

[MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To GiveParticipant 6635]

narwhal wrote:

I’m not seeing a game changer, at least not immediately.

First off, it isn’t here yet. There is much testing and approval that needs to happen before you see it on the market.

Second, there is going to be the cost. This is going to be expensive, and I would not be surprised if it’s not covered by insurance. Then again, Viagra is. And although an insurance company won’t be responsible to pay for the man’s baby, there is a decent chance that momma is under the same insurance plan. Therefore it definitely could be a cost savings insurance wise. As well, female birth control often comes with other expenses from side effects, while this likely will not.

Third, is will men actually use it? Many men will not want a shot in the b~~~~ and opt for a condom, or the vasectomy route. You still need STD protection, so it’s not like you can do without the condom unless you have a tested partner. If you’re in a relationship, there’s a good chance she’s going to discourage you from getting it. She’ll claim you don’t trust her. She’ll say it’s an unnecessary waste of money. Depending on how frequently you have to get reapplication, you may have difficulty hiding it from her.

This is a step in the right direction, but it needs to be cheap and easy before it’s going to really change the game.

Then again, I would not be surprised if feminist fully jump on board and push this towards cheap and easy. They may think it liberates them from having to use birth control, let men have to deal with what we’ve dealt with for decades. They’ll believe they won’t really be giving up any control over births because men in relationships will only use it as directed by a woman.

Im gonna have to disagree with you on this one. Lets say the cost is 240.00 per shot equals to 20.00 per month as opposed to 700.00 a month in child support from a ooops baby,hell a guy would still pay double that amount for a shot of freedom. Secondly a man does not have to have a table conference with a women to discuss his birth control options”his body his right” right? Women tell men they are on the pill AFTER they are on it.Where there’s smoke there’s fire,where there’s demand there’s supply(viagra).The stigma behind a traditional vasectomy is the getting snipped part as well as the low irreversibility numbers which turns some men away,this one doesnt have those side effects. This one takes away the “what if I want kids later” scare that vasectomies carry not to mention all the men getting hosed due to child support(backdoor vaginamony) I think the cost benefit weighs heavy in a mans favor.I agree with Keymaster that this is a game changer and I guess time will tell.

Never lose sight of what brought you here.

[Frank V.Participant 2445]

Keymaster wrote:

Game changer? It’s a game WINNER.

@keymaster : It is a potential game changer and the other research projects all combine to a game winner, on one condition.

Men actually use it !

Even a nuclear bomb doesn’t change a thing if it is never deployed.

Frank V.

Note: Let me not be misunderstood. I am all for using it, and using it with no hesitation. You want kids, though s~~~ ! Find another sucker. All of these underfunded research projects will empower men to take control of their own reproductive capacity. Since this is something that feminists have demanded women be able to do, then they better not complain one little peep when men do it.

We can even steal their slogan, “Our Bodies / Our Lives”.

The Wall of Silence reinforced with The Buttress of Male Birth Control. Because this gives men the power to say “no” and enforce it.

[the roadParticipant 3125]

It would have to be covered on insurance or Obummercare if female birth control is covered.

Many men won’t take it because they are dumbasses but for those of us that will (I will probably already be snipped though) it will definitely be a game changer. How could it not? If it is reliable, millions of men will be in control of the entire game. Women will be going crazy. Men will then need to watch out because their women will be side f~~~ing and trying to get pregnant.

#MANOUT

[ConstantineParticipant 4420]

I just cant get my hopes up because I have this strange feeling that feminist will find a way to block this from becoming FDA.

Too right. Didn’t they ban vasectomies in Georgia a few weeks ago? A class-A c~~~ said something about how it was unfair that a man should “get to avoid unwanted fatherhood” or some s~~~? If a woman was willing to say that, what makes anybody think that something like this would go ahead without protest?

Jesus, women would be petrified. They can’t even let a university hold a men’s rights group. Something like this would be waaaaay too heavy in men’s rights for their liking.

To see what is in front of one's nose requires a constant struggle. -Orwell

[the roadParticipant 3125]

They didn’t ban vasectomies. It was just some smart ass bitch being melodramatic.

#MANOUT

[ConstantineParticipant 4420]

Oh. That’s a relief. I thought there was a discussion on here recently about an “anti-vasectomy act” in Georgia.

To see what is in front of one's nose requires a constant struggle. -Orwell

[OhnoParticipant 668]

MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To Give wrote:

I just cant get my hopes up because I have this strange feeling that feminist will find a way to block this from becoming FDA approved like a made up law of “male deception”.

But there is this agenda to decrease the “overpopulation” so I think feminist ideas will be ignored in this case.

[VarunParticipant 2981]

Awesome! Our generation is saved. Though it’ll still take some time to catch on like a normal everyday thing.

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

[The_Mad_PirateParticipant 1278]

According to the Vasalgel Research Newsletter clinical tests in rabbitt worked very well regarding reversibility ( recently published peer reviewed paper in http://bacandrology.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12610-016-0033-8 and a review of such paper http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2016-03/pf-nmc032916.php ) although not so well in baboobs given their vas deferens was smaller and more fragile ( http://archive.constantcontact.com/fs185/1109766611768/archive/1122251568556.html ) , but they are opmistic with humans given human vas deferens is larger and sturdier.
As far as is published , they are already starting clinical trials on humans ( http://archive.constantcontact.com/fs185/1109766611768/archive/1123766041346.html ) but only with vreoluntaries that might not mind losing reproductive capability in case the trial goes wrong just last month ( http://archive.constantcontact.com/fs185/1109766611768/archive/1124075851604.html ).

"We didn't start the fire. It was always burning. Since the world's been turning" "A world that vilifies men only breeds a generation of men that feel no empathy towards women" “In a woman’s mind , there is really no such thing as a ‘we’. In her eyes, earth allways revolves around her, not the other way around. So thinking that your needs , aspirations or desires are valid enough to be persued, or even that you are entitled achive such goals, is like asking your boss for a pay rise in your very first day at the job.”

[The_Mad_PirateParticipant 1278]

@narwhal

narwhal wrote:

Then again, I would not be surprised if feminist fully jump on board and push this towards cheap and easy. They may think it liberates them from having to use birth control, let men have to deal with what we’ve dealt with for decades. They’ll believe they won’t really be giving up any control over births because men in relationships will only use it as directed by a woman.

Betty Friedman and mab went all the way to India in the 70s to protest against a researcher in Male Contraceptive. Her rationale ? That male contraceptive will “take away” the power of deciding when to get pregnant.

Dr Courtinho against feminists

"We didn't start the fire. It was always burning. Since the world's been turning" "A world that vilifies men only breeds a generation of men that feel no empathy towards women" “In a woman’s mind , there is really no such thing as a ‘we’. In her eyes, earth allways revolves around her, not the other way around. So thinking that your needs , aspirations or desires are valid enough to be persued, or even that you are entitled achive such goals, is like asking your boss for a pay rise in your very first day at the job.”

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