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I have been married for 8 years and every year it gets better.
At the beginning it was not so perfect, but little by little (and a few close-ups to divorce) we are really getting there.
Understand that in all honesty I am a great husband. I don’t drink, smoke, or do drugs, and believe you me I always put money on the table. I am a skilled handyman around the house and she is fully satisfied in bed.
The problem is mostly on her side, mostly due to being brought in this generation. Things like arguing past the point she realized she was wrong, nagging…we have been dealing with all of this one solution at the time. The latest solution (which I particularly love) is that, whenever I find that she is acting out, I say one of these two key phrases:
– Shut up and be pretty.
– Be obedient.It sounds like a joke, but works like a charm. She understands that she is being stupid and gets right in place.
In a way, I am already going my own way in the sense I am doing most things I like. As an example, she hated motorcycles but ended up buying me one.
Unfortunately, sometimes she do things so stupid that deserve special treatment. This is what I called “making myself happy”.
We just bought a new apartment and we are moving out of our rental place. In order to get the deposit back the old place must be in tip-top condition, including repainting. Needless to say, me being good with handyman stuff I wasn’t going to pay someone to do something I can do.
I sent my wife 3 weeks to visit her folks so I could prepare the house. During that time I packed most things, dismantled beds and wardrobes, fixed whatever needed fixing and painted like a maniac. All that while she was relaxing with her family. Judge by yourself if I am a good husband or not.
She gets home and really appreciates what I did, but I still needed to finish fixing and painting the kitchen and the bathroom. On saturday I did the bathroom and on Sunday the kitchen. You know the drill: Dismantle the furniture, cover the holes, polishing, painting, cleaning,…all while she was relaxing at home.
Of course, she did the cooking and “super cleaned” again after I cleaned (it seems I can never clean as good as she does). But then again, do not compare cooking (which I can also do, by the way) and mopping the floor with the truckload of work I was doing.
So come Sunday evening. My wife has a couple of “signature dishes” (I do, too) and I asked for one of them. I love that dish, I do not know how to do it, and she has been doing almost nothing for 3 weeks straight. That signature dish requires a bit of work compared to other dishes (say 40 minutes compared to the usual 20 minutes)…
…she couldn’t be bothered.
I kid you not she could not be bothered. You see, she usually makes the same dish in 4 servings (2 for the evening, and the rest for us to eat at the office during lunch). As that signature dish requires more work, she recently cooks it only on weekends so she doesn’t need to make 4 servings. Since it was Sunday evening, she didn’t want to make 4 servings of that dish because of the extra work.
Yep. Exactly. I spent 3 weeks preparing the whole apartment. Packing EVERYTHING (my stuff and hers), fixing, painting, everything. And she cannot f~~~ing be bothered to cook a meal I requested.
But it gets better. When I was asking for that thing I realized she forgot to buy something she needed on Monday at her work. Since it was raining, I volunteered to go get it.
By the time I was ready to go I already knew she was not going to cook that one meal. I still went. I wanted to be alone. I bought the stuff she needed and came home soaked.
And of course when I came home she wanted to cook that thing. Unfortunately, one ingredient was missing and, to be frank, I didn’t really want it anymore.
But I told you I had a solution for these cases. I go make myself happy.
How do I make myself happy? Of course by cheating. I love my wife most of the time, but when she does these things I need to cheat on her. I need to feel free again. And yes, I should divorce her, but otherwise we are happy.
I have cheated on her before we were married and told her about it. She accepted it and we went ahead and got married. After we got married I kept cheating on her whenever she pulls some crap. In my defense I have explained to her countless time what I would do. I have explained myself that whenever she hurts me I will make myself happy. Of course I haven’t vocalized the fact that I have cheated on her in many occasions (as many as she has hurt me) but I have tried my very best to warn her. Still sometimes she pulls this crap.
I do not understand why she does what she do. I do so much for her in exchange for so little. I bring home 2x her salary. I provide for her anything she wants. I work like a madman in and out of the house. And the only thing I ask in return is that, from time to time, she does something for me, always on the lines of cooking a meal that I want, or shut up when she knows she is wrong, never anything more serious than that. Is that too much to ask?
So, I make myself happy.
Not 24h after the incident I already have someone arranged. I will probably seal the deal this or next week. And then things will go back to normal.
I cannot fully explain why cheating makes things right for me, but they do. Cheating makes me feel whole again, man again, happy again. I don’t cheat to hurt her, but to complete me. I love, absolutely, fully, to have a new woman taste in my mouth, to touch new skin, specially when they are really young (a couple of girls ago I did a 21yo fantastic ebony girl).
Maybe we will end up getting divorced. But for the time being I keep making myself happy.
PS: Prenup in place.
Prenup = garbage.
Sorry to be blunt, but any lawyer worth his salt will be able to weasel her out of it. Are things exactly the same as they were when it was signed? Did she “feel” pressured into it for ANY reason? (i.e. you wouldn’t marry her if she didn’t – and remember, nowadays, women can and do change their minds after the event and it is then backdated!). Have you updated it each and every year? Did you use separate lawyers each time?
I’m glad you have a solution, enjoy your life, that’s the most important thing. I’m usually polite to other people, but I’m going to bite the bullet on this one – are you sure you’re on the right website? This is MGTOW.
Prenup = garbage.
Sorry to be blunt, but any lawyer worth his salt will be able to weasel her out of it. Are things exactly the same as they were when it was signed? Did she “feel” pressured into it for ANY reason? (i.e. you wouldn’t marry her if she didn’t – and remember, nowadays, women can and do change their minds after the event and it is then backdated!). Have you updated it each and every year? Did you use separate lawyers each time?
I’m glad you have a solution, enjoy your life, that’s the most important thing. I’m usually polite to other people, but I’m going to bite the bullet on this one – are you sure you’re on the right website? This is MGTOW.
Your points are perfectly valid, and I believe we could make another thread about how to make prenups. In my case, I have a bit of a legal background, so here are the details, all in written:
– Prenup BEFORE marriage was ever discussed (in written and signed).
– Prenup initiated by her (despite I had more assets). Again, written and signed.
– Independent lawyer for each party.
– Not one line mentioning children.
– Signed annex regarding:
1. The advice to visit a psychologist to ensure an optimal mental balance before signing.
2. The advice to visit a forensic accountant to ensure that debt and assets are all clear and accounted for.
3. The advice to visit and discuss the topic with a minimum of 3 independent lawyers.
– 6 months of latency period before the prenup is signed.
– Reassurance of no-fault divorce, including specifics about infidelity. Again, in an specifically signed annex.As you can see, I have been around. Never been married before, but being around.
Regarding your bullet biting, I would like to POLITELY recommend you to inform the site administrators and let them decide whether I should be here or not and about whether my thread(s) are appropriate. If you are so concerned about whether I should be here or not, you should walk the walk, if you know what I mean. That is the difference between boys and men.
No hard feelings.
Joseph I’m with you here. There are many married men here,myself included. MGTOW is different things to different men, but the one thing we all share is a strong sense of independence. Not letting society dictate how to live our lives. If you can accomplish that within a marriage – then good on you.
Joseph I’m with you here. There are many married men here,myself included. MGTOW is different things to different men, but the one thing we all share is a strong sense of independence. Not letting society dictate how to live our lives. If you can accomplish that within a marriage – then good on you.
My understanding (and if I am wrong please admin delete my account for my great sins) of MGTOW is the following:
1. MEN DOING WHATEVER THE F~~~ THEY WANT WITH THEIR LIVES, AS LONG AS THEY ARE 100% HAPPY EACH AND EVERY DAY.
2. MEN SHARING WHAT IS THAT THEY DO TO ACCOMPLISH POINT 1, INCLUDING THINGS THEY ARE DOING WRONG, SO OTHER MEN CAN HELP AND SUPPORT THEM.
I am not saying that my current situation is optimal because it is not. But I am happy when I have a woman around taking care of me. And I am very happy when I can tell a woman to shut the f~~~ up and she thanks me for it. And I am even more happy when I have a way to make myself happy when everything else fails.
Is my life the optional way to live? Not at all. The way I see it, my life is like gasoline engines. We are still getting less than 50% of the energy from them, but we are getting there.
I am trying to get there.
Great post. But all she has to do is lie.
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Great post. But all she has to do is lie.
This.
Clearly I hit a nerve with you @joseph. I’m genuinely glad that you find a way of making your marriage work, and I’m glad that you have a wife that responds well to your Alpha-bulls~~~-meter, but I’m not going to apologize, as it is often when our buttons are pushed that we find weaknesses that we need to work on.
My story is different, and I got screwed. I was the archetypal good husband, who looked after the kids better than she did, supported her by sending her off on feel-good trips, didn’t ruffle her family-herd of cacklers, supported her (always failing) business ventures. A week before what I’m about to write, she said that (and I quote) “I love you, you are the other half of me, I want you for the rest of my life”. A week later, she assaulted me, I called the cops. She rang four people (including a lawyer) in between me calling the cops and them arriving 15 minutes later, in which time she changed her story from “I pushed him down the driveway” to “He pushed me down the driveway”. The cops arrested me, and a week later, showed me photos of the “bruising” that she had “sustained” when I “assaulted her”. It was shocking. Bruises all over the middle of one thigh, black, purple, angry.
Luckily for me, she said my knee did it in one hit, and when I pointed out to the Police that a 6cm wide kneecap could not possibly make 7 bruises all arranged in a semi-circle each the size of a Dollar/2 Euro (for your benefit) coin, the Police figured she’d lied.
She went on to claim I had sexually abused my own children, I got supervised visitations until, in a 3 hour interrogation, a court-ordered psychologist examined the reaction my children had to me, and concluded that they loved me dearly and had absolutely no fear of me whatsoever, and that she was lying.
It went on. And on. And on. Every week, she’d call the Police saying I’d abused her (when I hadn’t even seen her). I knew all of the nearest 4 Police stations all by first name. She just stopped turning up to let me see my children. She bruised herself again, took photos and claimed I’d abused her again. It only stopped when I gave up my rights to see my children. It was the only way I could stop her.
So you’ll have to forgive my attitude that women can’t be trusted. Especially women who claim they love you.
Joseph, I’m currently married as well. Clearly you aren’t happy with the arrangement since you need to make yourself happy. Maybe she enjoys the abuse, you might have found the perfect person for you. Still, it sounds like you look for excuses to use the make myself happy clause.
I’m not attacking you in any way, but since you make double what she does and the only purpose she seems to serve is making a couple of dishes you like are you sure that you want to wait until she can develop enough of a case based on marital gains to take her appropriate pound of flesh.
I would think it would be better to be done with her and do what makes you happy all of the time.
If you’re actually enjoying hurting her then by all means continue to run around. Keep in mind that unless she’s getting off on it too you aren’t going your own way, you are just being sadistic.
I’m all for punishing a bad woman, but you yourself said she’s good to you most times.
Like I said, this isn’t an attack. Every day her case for invalidating the prenup and calling you an abuser increases if something doesn’t change. I’m not a lawyer, maybe you’re squared away and bulletproof, it’s a hell of a chance to take with your future.
I failed to realize in my youth that I was the prize. I was going to work. I was going to earn. Little did I realize that due to feminism, that no longer meant I had to share. Road soon, Desert after.
Great post. But all she has to do is lie.
This, this, this, THIS.
Prenups are garbage, Joseph. The list you posted of prerequisites and conditions supposedly making your prenup ironclad won’t mean s~~~ when the lawyers get involved.
I’ve know dozens of men with what they thought were ironclad prenups, lawyers, CPAs, millionaires, even law professors and everyone of them got f~~~ed. I know a man who had a prenup only because his family’s trust fund required it. He didn’t even want the prenup and he still got f~~~ed.
You’re f~~~ed and you’ve somehow convinced yourself that you’re not.
You’re f~~~ed and every move you make prior to your divorce being finalized is a potential disaster for you. Especially if you’re committing adultery. Once she catches you – and she will catch you – that divorce bullet train pulls out the the station with Casey Jones at the throttle.
And you better believe that your admission that you f~~~ed another woman the day before your marriage will figure prominently in her lawyers’ filings. Courts “love” serial adulterers, especially if they’re men, and you’re handing your wife’s future lawyers that charge gift wrapped with a bow on top.
I don’t much like all the lists, stages, precepts, and other “secret clubhouse” nonsense which many self-appointed MGTOW spokesmen post around the net as requirements for MGTOW “membership”. Truth be told, my hurdle for MGTOW membership is pretty damn low. Unlike many, I accept that a MGHOW can be married…
… providing that he’s actively working towards a divorce.
He needn’t have filed yet, he can very well be preparing for the s~~~storm his divorce will cause. But he cannot be “happily married” and he cannot thinking about a possible divorce at some far future date while still claiming to be a man going his own way.
I do hope to see around the forums creating threads and posting replies, but in my opinion – as if my opinion means anything – you’re actually not a man going his own way.
Good luck in your continued search for happiness and to try to prepare for the day when your wife drops her bombshell.
Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.
You are good.husband because.you dont drink.or smoke???get that f~~~.out.of here with that crap she.own.your ass thats for sure
Great post. But all she has to do is lie.
But his perfect little snowflake is never going to lie is she? Trust me, the woman you married is not the real her. You will not see the real her until she wants to get back on the c~~~ carousel and wants a divorce. Only then will you see the true lying, manipulative bitch she really is. Trust me, she has been lying and manipulating you since the day you first met, only you were not able to see it as you were only thinking about pussy.
All she will do is cry in court and claim that you said you would never marry her unless she signed the prenup so she was forced into it.
For women, everything eventually boils down to Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.
This joseph guy sounds like a purple pill kind of guy.
Prenups are worthless in court, if she screams SPOUSAL RAPE or DOMESTIC VIOLENCE this guy is going to wake up in jail, with bubba f~~~ing his ass everyday.
Seriously, this is going to blow like a grenade at any time.
She is NOT tame and submissive, shes just waiting for the tight moment to go full metal jacket on his ass.You have been warned.
Clearly I hit a nerve with you @joseph.
The nerve that you hit is the fact that you think you have the power to decide who gets to be MGTOW, who gets to write, and what the topic should be. Nothing to do with the story at hand. That is why I politely ask you to report my thread to see if the site administrator thinks in the same way.
I’m genuinely glad that you find a way of making your marriage work, and I’m glad that you have a wife that responds well to your Alpha-bulls~~~-meter, but I’m not going to apologize, as it is often when our buttons are pushed that we find weaknesses that we need to work on.
My “weakness” is: I do not like people who, not being the site admin, think they can decide who is part of this community and who is not. In fact, as a newbie I was under the impression that here I would find people trying to show the way to others, not people trying to throw away others.
My story is different, and I got screwed. I was the archetypal good husband, who looked after the kids better than she did, supported her by sending her off on feel-good trips, didn’t ruffle her family-herd of cacklers, supported her (always failing) business ventures.
I will show you just how different your story is by asking you a very simple, basic question: Did you file a prenup?
Now you can tell me how, in your opinion, a prenup would be useless anyway. If you do so, my next question will be about whether you have a law degree and whether you have court experience, which I do, followed by the question of whether you personally have ever drafted a prenup for yourself AND for others, and whether any of the prenups you have drafted have even been overtuned.
And yes, you don’t need to be a mechanic to know that you car needs a brake bleed, but you better be one if you want to have it done properly.
A week before what I’m about to write, she said that (and I quote) “I love you, you are the other half of me, I want you for the rest of my life”. A week later, she assaulted me, I called the cops. She rang four people (including a lawyer) in between me calling the cops and them arriving 15 minutes later, in which time she changed her story from “I pushed him down the driveway” to “He pushed me down the driveway”. The cops arrested me, and a week later, showed me photos of the “bruising” that she had “sustained” when I “assaulted her”. It was shocking. Bruises all over the middle of one thigh, black, purple, angry.
Here comes my next question to highlight our differences: Before what you wrote, did she ever show any sign of violence against you? Examples of violence:
– Shouting and then apologizing.
– Physical violence.
– Verbal violence (you are a…!!!) and then apologizing.I am willing to bet she did, because violence does not happen. How do I know this? Because I have been volunteering for YEARS helping men, women, and children, cope with the results of violence. In all the cases I have seen, 100% of them have a long history which started with one of the three above.
It went on. And on. And on. Every week, she’d call the Police saying I’d abused her (when I hadn’t even seen her). I knew all of the nearest 4 Police stations all by first name. She just stopped turning up to let me see my children. She bruised herself again, took photos and claimed I’d abused her again. It only stopped when I gave up my rights to see my children. It was the only way I could stop her.
Why did you stay with her after the first violent act? I guess because of the kids and/or because you could not afford your own place.
So you’ll have to forgive my attitude that women can’t be trusted. Especially women who claim they love you.
I don’t need to forgive you because you are 100% correct. But we knew that, don’t we?
What I do not “forgive” is you telling me whether I should or not be here. I wouldn’t dream of telling anyone that unless they broke the rules. In fact, what I would do is, instead of questioning whether someone should be here or not, try to help them and support them.
But then again, we seen to be different, all the way to the point of me trying to help you here where, apparently, it should be the other way around.
You see, in my comments above I have shown you what YOU did wrong. Because what happened to you wife YOU BROUGHT TO YOURSELF. Why? Because we are the 2nd or 3rd generation of men after women won the “war of the sexes”, just like I am bringing on myself whatever s~~~ is coming to me for being married.
You should cut that crap at the first sign on it. At the first shout. But you went on, got married, and pop kids. YOU BROUGHT THAT TO YOURSELF.
Before my current wife I almost marry someone else. I was going to propose to her on that fateful year, but one day for some reason she got upset and shouted at me. Never did so before. And never did it again, because that was the last time she ever saw me.
I am not saying that my wife is perfect, but I am saying with 100% guarantee that I didn’t, and won’t, make your mistakes, for the simple reason that I do not tolerate violence.
So the lesson to be learned here is not so much “don’t go close to women” as “do not tolerate violence”.
Will my wife call the cops one day? Maybe. If she do, I will never directly talk to her or live with her again, just like I have done every time I have ever been in that situation.
So go ahead and keep not apologizing and pushing your weight to other members. Do whatever makes you happy.
Joseph, I’m currently married as well. Clearly you aren’t happy with the arrangement since you need to make yourself happy. Maybe she enjoys the abuse, you might have found the perfect person for you. Still, it sounds like you look for excuses to use the make myself happy clause.
I’m not attacking you in any way, but since you make double what she does and the only purpose she seems to serve is making a couple of dishes you like are you sure that you want to wait until she can develop enough of a case based on marital gains to take her appropriate pound of flesh.
I would think it would be better to be done with her and do what makes you happy all of the time.
If you’re actually enjoying hurting her then by all means continue to run around. Keep in mind that unless she’s getting off on it too you aren’t going your own way, you are just being sadistic.
I’m all for punishing a bad woman, but you yourself said she’s good to you most times.
Like I said, this isn’t an attack. Every day her case for invalidating the prenup and calling you an abuser increases if something doesn’t change. I’m not a lawyer, maybe you’re squared away and bulletproof, it’s a hell of a chance to take with your future.
I think you are completely right in your conclusions. And your comment has helped me a lot to see things more clearly. So for that I thank you.
Yes, you are right. In a way, even though she does not know about the cheating, I do use her faults as an excuse to cheat. You see, we all want to be the heroes of our movies.
But I also want to highlight a couple of things. I make double her salary is a fact, but I have never used it against her because that is irrelevant to me. I mentioned only to show that she was not supporting me. In fact, she makes a very good salary herself.
Also, I am not with her because she can cook a couple of dishes I like. I do have a good life with her and enjoy my time with her. We have lots of fun, take trips together, etc…It is just these moments where she goes back to “typical female mode” that I exact my revenge.
And nope, I do not enjoy hurting her, because (again) she is not aware of what is going on. The only thing she knows is:
1. I make Joseph mad.
2. Some time passes.
3. Joseph suddenly becomes happy again.If I was a sadist I would make sure she knew. No, I do this for me and for me only. Literally, to make me happy.
Finally, I am with you. Maybe the best course of action is to be done with her. This has been an internal fight I had with myself for years.
Prenups are garbage, Joseph. The list you posted of prerequisites and conditions supposedly making your prenup ironclad won’t mean s~~~ when the lawyers get involved.
I’ve know dozens of men with what they thought were ironclad prenups, lawyers, CPAs, millionaires, even law professors and everyone of them got f~~~ed. I know a man who had a prenup only because his family’s trust fund required it. He didn’t even want the prenup and he still got f~~~ed.
With all due respect, do you?
Would you be so kind as to point me out to a link that contains a PROPER prenup that got f~~~ed? I would be very interested in a professional manner.
I have seen f~~~ed prenups, too, starting from the ones mentioning the word “children”, followed by the ones done without 2 independent lawyers present, followed by the ones done AFTER he asked her to marry him. I can provide you links to all of them.
But then again I can point you to many proper prenups. For example, the ones done by the vast majority of celebrities. We heard only about the ones that get f~~~ed, but believe you me the majority of people with any wealth do them.
I guess the best case I can provide you is the honorary MGTOW member, Tom Leykis. Married 4 times, with prenups in 3 of the marriages (that I know of). Not once got he f~~~ed.
There are 3 main reasons to void a prenup:
1. Hidden assets. You did not disclose your assets properly before the marriage. This is the one most commonly use because here her lawyer will look into that skateboard you bought and forgot to put in the prenup. This issue is easily avoided with a tax accountant (the guy who does your taxes can help you there).
2. Coercion. You were “forced” to sign the prenup. Easily covered when you have an invoice for the promise ring with a date after the prenup was signed, and of course with her signed declaration with her own lawyer.
3. Unenforceable circumstances. Also called “stupidity”. The classic one is to write the word “children”. However, you can LEGALLY write on a prenup that, if she gets fat, she is out. This would be a perfectly legal clause.
You’re f~~~ed and you’ve somehow convinced yourself that you’re not.
In which University did you get your law degree?
I thought so too.
You’re f~~~ed and every move you make prior to your divorce being finalized is a potential disaster for you. Especially if you’re committing adultery. Once she catches you – and she will catch you – that divorce bullet train pulls out the the station with Casey Jones at the throttle.
Where I live cheating cannot be use in court. Not only there has been jurisdiction on it, I have a personal experience when I supported the divorce of my own brother. He, too, cheated. She claimed cheating, and the judge laugh it off.
And you better believe that your admission that you f~~~ed another woman the day before your marriage will figure prominently in her lawyers’ filings. Courts “love” serial adulterers, especially if they’re men, and you’re handing your wife’s future lawyers that charge gift wrapped with a bow on top.
Maybe where you live.
I don’t much like all the lists, stages, precepts, and other “secret clubhouse” nonsense which many self-appointed MGTOW spokesmen post around the net as requirements for MGTOW “membership”. Truth be told, my hurdle for MGTOW membership is pretty damn low. Unlike many, I accept that a MGHOW can be married…
… providing that he’s actively working towards a divorce.
He needn’t have filed yet, he can very well be preparing for the s~~~storm his divorce will cause. But he cannot be “happily married” and he cannot thinking about a possible divorce at some far future date while still claiming to be a man going his own way.
I do hope to see around the forums creating threads and posting replies, but in my opinion – as if my opinion means anything – you’re actually not a man going his own way.
Good luck in your continued search for happiness and to try to prepare for the day when your wife drops her bombshell.
Thanks! And again, join the other guy and ask admin to remove me from the forum.
You are good.husband because.you dont drink.or smoke???get that f~~~.out.of here with that crap she.own.your ass thats for sure
No. I am a good husband because I bring all the necessary stuff to the table asking for little in return.
The concept of good, as opposed to fair. Fair would be when you bring 50%, good is when you bring 51%. My wife herself tells me, her family, her friends, and anyone how good of a husband I am, and since she is the recipient I’d say I am.
This said, I am vicious when it comes to her doing her duty. I should not be, but I am.
…are you sure you’re on the right website? This is MGTOW.
This is what I wrote. I am not deciding, or telling, I am asking you a question.
Why did you stay with her after the first violent act? I guess because of the kids and/or because you could not afford your own place.
No. She was never physically violent towards me until that day. Two days later, I was served with a restraining order preventing me from ever going back to my own house. I had to find somewhere else to live.
I am willing to bet she did, because violence does not happen. How do I know this? Because I have been volunteering for YEARS helping men, women, and children, cope with the results of violence. In all the cases I have seen, 100% of them have a long history which started with one of the three above.
You’re making a lot of assumptions, without asking me any questions, or even reading my bio. I have to say (in my restrained, English manner) that there’s something wrong about you saying you know about violence because you volunteered, especially when you’re saying that to someone who’s been through it. I’ll let you work out what that is.
I own every single one of my decisions. I got married. I chose that, voluntarily. I chose a mentally ill woman. I chose to have kids with her. I chose to stand up to her after 7 years of hell. I naturally own what happened next – she got violent. I own that. And I own my decision to never lay a hand on her, never shout, never control, never say anything bad or untrue about her. I own myself.
Joseph, you’re getting worked up, and for no good reason. I called you out on whether you should be on this website. It’s not for me to decide, and I absolutely couldn’t give a f~~~ if you do or don’t.
I have absolutely no personal contact with other members on here, I haven’t whipped up a storm to bolster my position, they are all MGTOW, and have given you their humble opinions, completely independently of me.
Enough of us here have said your prenup is worthless. If you need evidence, here is a UK court ruling that a Saudi sheikh cannot use his diplomatic immunity to prevent his ex from taking half of his $5.7bn. What chance does your prenup stand?
Again, I congratulate you sincerely for being Alpha with your wife. But I can’t apologise for your emotions. That’s not my job, I don’t own your emotions, nor do I control them. You need to take control of your emotions, no one else is going to.
Are you sure you’re on the right website? This. Is. MGTOW.
With all due respect, do you?
Yes, I do. I’ve as many anecdotes about failed prenups as you do about successful ones.
I guess the best case I can provide you is the honorary MGTOW member, Tom Leykis. Married 4 times, with prenups in 3 of the marriages (that I know of). Not once got he f~~~ed.
Not once? Forgot the DV charges did you? It’s odd that a man who supposedly had three successful prenups now advises men not only to never marry but not even to cohabitate.
In which University did you get your law degree?
Most likely the same one your law degree is from.
Where I live cheating cannot be use in court.
Where is that? I’m sure we’d all love to know of a place where prenups are worth the paper they’re printed on and adultery doesn’t matter is divorce cases.
Maybe where you live.
Where do you live again?
Thanks! And again, join the other guy and ask admin to remove me from the forum.
Dial back the umbrage, skippy. I never even intimated you should leave the forum. In fact, I specifically wrote that I’ll be reading your future threads and posts. I merely stated my opinion that you’re not a man going his own way.
Again, good luck and I hope all your plans work out.
Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.
Some men have to learn their lesson the hard way. There’s simply no helping them.
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