MAJOR POLITICAL VICTORY IN CANADA…

[AutoliteParticipant]

News has just broke that the Alberta Wildrose party has voted to ratify the merger with the Alberta Conservative party! This is fabulous news! The ratification required a 75% approval with the Wildrose membership but they achieved a 95% approval!

http://www.metronews.ca/news/canada/2017/07/22/cp-newsalert-opposition-wildrose-members-approve-merger-with-alberta-pcs.html

Not all the votes for the approval on the Alberta Conservative side have been tallied but it’s a no-brainer that the Conservatives will approve the ratification. The Alberta Conservative leader, Jason Kenney, won his leadership of the Alberta Conservative party on his platform of uniting the two right wing parties and the ratification of the unity agreement only requires a 50% approval from the Conservative membership . Kenney left his position as a federal MP in Ottawa specifically to win the Alberta Conservative leadership and to unite the Conservatives with the Alberta Wildrose Party.

The Wildrose was a hard right party that was created ten years ago. Their only accomplishment was to successfully split the right wing vote in Alberta, giving the communist NDP the win in the last provincial election on a platter. NDP leader Rachel Notley is p~~~ing her boxer shorts right now as her days are finished with the writing now clearly on the wall.

This is a massive victory for right wing Albertans and Canadians! Barring any unseen political catastrophe, this will guarantee the crushing defeat of the current ruling feminist/mangina controled leftist NDP provincial government in the next election just a little under two years away.

Alberta is Canada’s prime economy generator and real Albertans and Canadians will again be in the driver’s seat. Alberta, under the newly created “Unified Conservative Party” of Alberta, is going to be a major blistering thorn up Turdeau’s ass…

[Anonymous 7]

This sounds awesome.
How, do you think this will help to replace the worlds greatest mangina Turd-oh?

Doesn’t change s~~~ and Turd-oh will be reelected?
Gives hope?
Slamdunk he is a goner?

[bladeParticipant]

Of topic . But check out the terrorist that got the 10 million and the tusken taking the selfie with merkel . Coincidence but f~~~ they look alike

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[AutoliteParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

This sounds awesome.
How, do you think this will help to replace the worlds greatest mangina Turd-oh?

Doesn’t change s~~~ and Turd-oh will be reelected?
Gives hope?
Slamdunk he is a goner?

Yeah, the Turd will be re-elected, but Canada the country is now lost. All real Canadians have left is Alberta. It will be, after the next provincial election, the only oasis of sanity in the country that was once Canada.

It may not sound like much but that’s all we have left. That’s all we can hope to keep. This is as good as it’s going to get, in my lifetime anyway…

[AutoliteParticipant]

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/alberta/wildrose-progressive-conservative-unite-right-united-conservative-party-alberta/article35776606/

The news of the Wildrose merger approval is now spreading like a British Columbia wild fire! The ratification approval isn’t ‘official’ until the Conservatives finished counting their votes but it’s safe to say that the unification of the two parties is a done deal. Personally, I’ve been waiting over two years for this day.

The real s~~~ storm begins tomorrow with a leadership race for the newly created “Unified Conservative Party” beginning. The top contenders will be Kenney and Jean but it really doesn’t matter who wins as either one will easily beat the current ruling NDP in the next provincial election.

The NDP leader Rachel Notley has already been screaming that a “Unified Conservative Party” will create an ‘unwelcome’ atmosphere for the LGBT community. I don’t think this will get Alberta’s oil field workers or cattle ranchers to start crying in their beers, just yet anyway…

[GrumpyParticipant]

All I can say is wait and see, and hope this doesn’t further divide “the right”.
Every iteration of the Alberta PC’s have deteriorated/diluted/failed since Ralph Klein’s era.
Hence the formation of both the Reform Party (that took over federally) and the Wildrose party (which took over provincially).
Most conservative voters abandoned the “conservative” party line and went to Wildrose. So joining both parties may look like a yet betrayal to the actual voters.
I will wait and see which way the winds are blowing before I pass judgement.

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

[AutoliteParticipant]

Grumpy wrote:

Most conservative voters abandoned the “conservative” party line and went to Wildrose. So joining both parties may look like a yet betrayal to the actual voters.
I will wait and see which way the winds are blowing before I pass judgement.

Well the Wildrose membership gave a 95% approval when they only needed 75%. Jason Kenney was elected as the Alberta Conservative leader on his bid to specifically unite the two parties.

It seems to me that the membership of both parties seem to definitely be in favour of this merger. Splitting the right wing vote was a colossal mistake. It just took ten years and an NDP win for everyone to figure that out. Anyhow, we’ll know for sure what the Conservatives think minutes from now when they finish their ballot count…

Wildrose votes yes to conservative merger with 95% of the vote

[AutoliteParticipant]

Grumpy wrote:

Every iteration of the Alberta PC’s have deteriorated/diluted/failed since Ralph Klein’s era.

Consider also that with Jason Kenney as leader of the (soon to be finished) Alberta PCs, the party has now been nudged slightly back to the right. That’s the only thing that’s p~~~ing off the Conservatives who opposed the merger.

The new UCP of Alberta will be further right than the old Alberta PCs but also slightly left of the legacy Wildrose party.

What Conservatives and Wildrose members FINALLY figured out is that politics is a compromise. If you hold out trying to get everything that you want you may just end up getting none of what you want. The NDP winning the last election taught the right wingers that lesson. Let’s just hope that it’s a lesson that won’t soon be forgotten…

[AutoliteParticipant]

For non-Canadians following this thread, this is why this unity agreement ratification vote is such a big deal:

Corbella: A vote for unity will help make Alberta healthy again

[GrumpyParticipant]

At the risk of p~~~ing in your cornflakes.
What the paying membership desires, does not necessarily reflect what the non membership dues paying voter desires. That’s going to be the “hiccup” in the contest.
Wildrose has 40k paying memberships yet had 361k +/- (360,511 to be exact) votes for them, that’s a +320k difference in actual vote at election time.
The PC party has an estimated 50k paying and free memberships. They garnered 413,677 votes and LOST 60 seats to the NDP.
The defection of Danielle Smith and her cohort cost the Wildrose and the PC’s dearly.
Which handed over a 30% increase in votes to a party who would have otherwise still been relegated to the kiddie table.

At best I can only hope for the best, but be prepared for the worst with this merger.

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

[GrumpyParticipant]

Autolite wrote:

Splitting the right wing vote was a colossal mistake.

I can wholeheartedly stand beside you on this point.
My point of contention is that the PC’s swung too far left of centre, which ironically is where the Canadian “right wing” (centre) sits in comparison to the rest of the world.
As long as the Unified Conservative Party sits and presents itself as leaning to the left, it to will fail with “conservative values”.

You are also absolutely correct with the compromise agenda, however it is for the benefit of all citizens, not just the vocal minority or the “party” in power.

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

[AutoliteParticipant]

Grumpy wrote:

At best I can only hope for the best, but be prepared for the worst with this merger.

The news is just in! Alberta PCs approved the unification agreement!

Progressive Conservative members voted 95 per cent in favour of a deal to merge with the Opposition Wildrose.

The Wildrose approved the merger by 95.4 per cent earlier in the day.

Alberta’s right united again: PCs and Wildrose approve merger of two parties

The Wildrose membership approval was 95.4 percent and the Alberta PCs was a 95% approval. I’m really not seeing a huge downside. When was the last time anyone saw political results like this?

The only ‘fly in the ointment’ is talk of forming another separate hard right party. Even if that were to happen, I see it as having little political effect in Alberta.

You argument seems to be that those party members who voted are in direct opposition to those who didn’t vote. I’m just not seeing anything to indicate that to be the case…

[GrumpyParticipant]

Autolite wrote:

The only ‘fly in the ointment’ is talk of forming another separate hard right party. Even if that were to happen, I see it as having little political effect in Alberta.

You argument seems to be that those party members who voted are in direct opposition to those who didn’t vote. I’m just not seeing anything to indicate that to be the case…

Again, we are obviously “seeing” or at least hearing different things.
I also seem to recall 2 certain parties as “having little political effect in Alberta”.
One is the Wildrose which is the official opposition, the other is the NDP which is in power.

My argument is that the “official party membership” of both the PC’s and the Wildrose may not be wholly inline with their voter bases (meaning grassroots supporters).
Having said that, yet again all I can do is hope for the best but prepare for the worst.

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

[AutoliteParticipant]

Grumpy wrote:

My argument is that the “official party membership” of both the PC’s and the Wildrose may not be wholly inline with their voter bases (meaning grassroots supporters).
Having said that, yet again all I can do is hope for the best but prepare for the worst.

For the agreement ratification to pass, Jason Kenney had to convince the Alberta PC membership that they needed to accept a slight shift to the right and Brian Jean had to convince the Wildrose membership that they needed to accept a slight shift to the left. A 95% approval vote from both parties tells me that the respective memberships realized that there had to be a small margin of comprise from both parties if they want to ensure that the NDP is defeated in the next election.

The only downside that I’m seeing is that we’ll have to put up with quite a lot of screaming and crying form the Lefties for another two years. 😀

Maybe Notley will do us all a favour and call an early election but I really can’t see that happening. Current polls indicate that the NDP would lose an election right now even if the unification ratification vote failed…

[GrumpyParticipant]

Personally I’ll give them just under a year to iron all the s~~~ out, dump the dead weight from both sides, and have a rock solid platform and justifications to run on.
IMHO the ideal solution is for both Kenny and Jean to co-select, endorse, groom and apprentice (based on a membership vote), a “new” face to present to lead the new party in a show of political unity.
Hopefully, smarter people than I have figured out the benefits of that idea.

As for the lefties still screaming, they will always do that. The trick is to tune out the self serving whining as the noise pollution it truly is.

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

[AutoliteParticipant]

Grumpy wrote:

IMHO the ideal solution is for both Kenny and Jean to co-select, endorse, groom and apprentice (based on a membership vote), a “new” face to present to lead the new party in a show of political unity.

I think that would be a mistake. It would be foolish to try and “groom” a newbie with less than two years before the next provincial election. I don’t think it even really matters who wins the UCP leadership race anyway. The UCP wants the NDP gone! The agreement ratification, with the 95% approval on both sides, tells me that the membership of both ‘legacy’ parties are willing to compromise in order to turf Notley in the next provincial election election.

I mean Kenny is hated by many in the Wildrose but they gave an almost unanimous vote to unite with the Conservatives anyway, even knowing that Kenney could lead the UCP.

For now, I’m just waiting to see the headlines in tomorrow morning’s papers. Maybe Notley will take a page from Turdeau’s election campaign book and promise to legalize cocaine… 😀

[GrumpyParticipant]

Again
We shall see what unfolds.

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

[AutoliteParticipant]

Grumpy wrote:

Again
We shall see what unfolds.

In the meantime, do you want to chip in? I’m thinking of sending Notley some sort of consolation. Maybe a box of cheap wine and a box of Kleenex… 😀

[GrumpyParticipant]

What?
No cats?
You insensitive bastage you..
Ya, I’m in 🙂

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

[AutoliteParticipant]

Grumpy wrote:

What?
No cats?
You insensitive bastage you..

Well we can send her a couple of cats if you like. Would you know what she prefers? ‘Original’ or ‘Extra Crispy’???

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