Libyan MGTOW, this is my story.

[BraceParticipant 467]

Dear fellow MGTOWs.

I don’t know where to begin or how to start this thread, since this subject is pretty close to me, and involved all my life decisions and aspects.

although I consider myself pretty good in english, I might mess up a bit since english is not my 1st language. so excuse me for that.
basically I’m a 25 years old guy, Libyan currently living in Egypt due the turmoil happening in Libya I’ve always been a level 1 MGTOW but without even realizing it, I was basically always different, hated the idea of marriage and always had different life orientations than other guys in my age bracket, so in a sense I’ve developed skills and ways to enjoy life without much companionship or girls approval, in high school and college, chicks that were able to get all the guys attention, did not appeal to me at all, instead I wasn’t really interested in their playing their games, it’s like I had an innate sense to seeing past all bulls~~~.
lifted weights as young as 17 years old, looked good and I would consider myself 7/10 conservatively, always had nice cars and the latest gadgets. had a good apetite for women but since I was living in a muslim country there was always bounderies in relationships, everything except sex etc, had girlfriends from russia, poland, czech republic, Libyans and recently iraqi who used to live in Libya also from germany. some of which were serous the others only lasted for few months although I went to UK several times I’ve never engaged with any british chicks, since whenever I liked a british girl a bulls~~~ detector goes off so I walk a way immediately.
had my fair share of heartbreaks and disappointments, I guess my biggest problem would be when I fall I fall real hard, and I expected the same from who ever I loved which in most cases never happens.
I fell hard for this one girl and I guess she felt for me to ( sometimes I feel women aren’t capable of deep soul love, it always has to do with what u can offer) but miraculously, we were on and off until end of 2014, she was a Muslim girl she was engaged for 1 year to a guy, and this was it, she never had any relationship before that, she also was older than me and since I was deeply in love with her I had the intention to marry her, after Libya became unstable with my blessings she went to UK to finish her post-grad studies MS and PhD, we stayed in contact for a while but I ended the relationship since I no longer was able to maintain my promise of marriage and I don’t want to be faced with an ultimatum with others start showing up at her door asking for her hand. now looking back at it she wasn’t that bad but I’m glad I didn’t get married to her, she never cheated or strayed but I was betrayed by another girl before her, who gave me the illusion she was single up to the point I saw her with her BF.
problem is in the middle east there isn’t much u can do in terms of going ur own way, especially if your not a multi-national ( having a U.S or European passport) and with Libya situation u feel kinda stuck with not many options.
I’m currently pursuing post grad studies here, not my ideal choice of career but it’s a 1st step to get me to where I want to. it was painful process swallowing the red pill and becoming MGHOW in the full sense.

Wish you the best life has to offer my fellow MGTOW. salute to you all.

[Anonymous 42]

Brace wrote:

never engaged with any british chicks, since whenever I liked a british girl a bulls~~~ detector goes off so I walk a way immediately.

Hey Headoncollision, you’re welcome here no matter how diverse your opinions are, we welcome all thinkers! The only rule is no women allowed. You’re right about your bulls~~~ detector going off, mine’s been pinned to the limit for years now. Welcome to MGTOW, your post was enlightening, thank-you, enjoy the forums…..

[Soldier-MedicParticipant 2566]

Your Bulls~~~ Detector is will keep you happy and sane.  I stopped listening to mine and wound up married and miserable for just over 20 years.  There were warning signs early on and I dismissed them because I had the abstract belief that thing will work themselves out.

After all, doesn’t love conquer all things?

MGTOW have learned different.

"I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.

[harpo-my-“SON”Participant 2410]

headon.collision wrote; so this basically part of my story or bits a pieces. I feel like deleting all this since I`m not comfortable sharing it but I feel that other people will relate to this.

From my observations this place is the most male friendly place on the internet. A place where you can comfortably express yourself. No need to be cautious or worry about how you will be received.. Welcome to mgtow and enjoy the forums..

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

[BraceParticipant 467]

Anonymous wrote:

Welcome to MGTOW, your post was enlightening, thank-you, enjoy the forums…..

cheers, it`s kinda weird but I feel safe here, 🙂 u have no idea how encouraging your reply to me.

[BraceParticipant 467]

Soldier-Medic wrote:

had the abstract belief that thing will work themselves out. After all, doesn’t love conquer all things? MGTOW have learned different.

thats what I thought in the beginning of my last long relationship, I fell fast and hard, I thought there was hope in change, which there was to a certain extent, there was too many stuff to change in her, to the point where if I married her she`ll hold too much leverage over me it would be crazy. at that point she would have practically changed 70% of who she is just to fit the image of her.

everytime I changed something in her we get into a fight like the male friends thing. and something else pops up, and then I`m disappointed again and attempting to change that ans so on, a viscous cycle that never seemed to end. until after a while I developed a concept of people DO change but NOT completely and NOT on my own terms, on THEIR TERMS.

and since I love cars, off-roading etc, I started seeing it as if you want an off-roader, then go buy an Nissan Xterra, jeep wrangler, toyota land cruiser etc. don`t go buy a sedan and try to convert it to go off-road, u can only change so much before it all breaks down, and everytime u have to deal with a technical issue, ending up paying 400% more money than buying 4×4 up front.

thats what I did, fell in love with a Sedan and ended up trying to convert it to a rally which ended up with issues everytime I turn it on.

of course Im not trying to compare women with cars, women are Human beings like as, but Im just trying to pass a point, where if one wants something, hoping for change upfront is a lost cause. instead get what u want from the beginning and if you can`t find what you want, then wait for it unit it happens. or just save the money, effort and emotion.

[BraceParticipant 467]

Brace wrote:

From my observations this place is the most male friendly place on the internet. A place where you can comfortably express yourself. No need to be cautious or worry about how you will be received.. Welcome to mgtow and enjoy the forums..

yes was gonna post something along this lines, especially when tower posted such warm welcome, I guess this is what MGTOW in a nutshell, men can no longer speak freely anymore about anything. I can be 1M that if I post this thread somewhere else I would be called many names, sexist being the 1st.

I remember few weeks ago I shared a video about even though men and women are equal in job opportunities that how men are still performing way superior in terms of work hours, innovation and creativity. and how the media is conveying the opposite message. with facts and data. so there was no speculation, the video went on as we men are better at every job even cooking, where the best cooking chiefs in the world are Males.

the video wasn`t posted to demean or belittle women but rather to counter how mainstream media is pushing an unrealistic message and as a result some very talented men are being lashed out of job opportunities when their applying for jobs with female applicants being picked over them just for being female.

anyway so a dear friend of mine, called me and the video author, sexists and stupid, instead of delivering his opinion in a civilized manner, he just decided to discard others opinions and force his own white nighty thoughts.

so we had a huge argument ending with me telling him there is a “dont want to see this post" bottom on facebook where he is free to press whenever he see a post that he dont like.

unit a fellow redditer with the name of loadedhomeboy decided to participate with calling him a whiteknight and defining it in a very bad way lol.

eventually I had to delete the post to avoid further unecessery confrontations, to this day this dear friend of mine feels very offended even though he insulted me with personal attacks, where Im not even the one who whiteknighted him my other redditor friend did. although I remember telling him he should come back and speak to me when he take the red pill, something he didnt understand of course!

every few weeks and months I get into such arguments. thats why I was very defensive when I posted my story here 🙂

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