Liberal — Conservative..How do you handle it?

[thisistheguy123Participant 2063]

“If You Are Not a Liberal at 25, You Have No Heart. If You Are Not a Conservative at 35 You Have No Brain”

This quote keeps ringing in my head.

Me, a conservative at 30.
My brother, a liberal at 37
He is a gay man living in the city who I love.

HOWEVER, our political views have always been on the opposite sides.
He, being a liberal man accepts all the new norms;
Transsexuals, all sex orientations, people living as they feel, etc, etc.

Now, during the debate last night he started texting me saying how s~~~ty Trump is blah blah blah
Me, knowing I don’t want to get into a fight, I don’t take the bait

Then these words get sent “I wish that man would die”
Now, I’ve known this for a while (when it comes to liberals), that they will accept ANYTHING from anybody…Except for accepting conservatives.

How do you guys manage to get through all this?
How can a man who accepts all these things not accept a man like Trump? or not accept a conservative brother/father/etc?

Usually I let these things slide off me as I find it’s not worth my time. However after reading his texts those words struck a nerve, I did not react but it has been in my mind ever since.

Do you men have loved ones, significant people in your lives that you completely disagree with politically?
Do you have a way of handling this?
I feel like it’s just a matter of time between now and the vote in November where things between he and I will constantly get worse.

He had the b~~~~ to tell me “Just don’t ever tell me you’re a Trump supporter”
Me, the man who has accepted him for being gay, supported him throughout all his troubles, partied with him, and remained his friend no matter what has happened

…How can someone like that dare tell me what to think/say/act like?

I’m caught between a rock and a hard place here.
I love my brother, but I’m very vocal with my ideas/thoughts.

Any insights would be greatly appreciated.

[Anonymous 54]

My self, I never talk politics. Especialy with family. Does any one ever change there mind?

I find liberals to be far more intolerent than conservatives.Odd huh.

[thisistheguy123Participant 2063]

Anonymous wrote:

My self, I never talk politics. Especialy with family. Does any one ever change there mind?

I find liberals to be far more intolerent than conservatives.Odd huh.

My brother and I always have discussions, he’s very smart and our discussions usually lead to great talks.

But with politics, oh man…And yea, very strange how they’re more intolerant towards those they “hate”

My mind changed, I use to think the liberal mentality was a good thing (I was about 12 years old at the time), but as soon as I entered the workforce at 17, my opinion changed.

[Anonymous 54]

In my family some of us are pro 2nd amendment, some anti gun. I dont even bring it up.

Theres just no point with family.Every one ends up yelling with no one listening. (Especialy liberals, who are…not good listeners, put it that way. Also ungracios loosers. I hope!)

[AwakenedParticipant 35207]

thisistheguy123 wrote:

My brother and I always have discussions, he’s very smart and our discussions usually lead to great talks.

Then you can find other things to talk about then politics, and probably religion. Agree to disagree and not to bring up the subject(s) anymore because they are hurting and not helping your relationship, and it will continue to get worse in the future.

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[thisistheguy123Participant 2063]

Anonymous wrote:

In my family some of us are pro 2nd amendment, some anti gun. I dont even bring it up.

Theres just no point with family.Every one ends up yelling with no one listening. (Especialy liberals, who are…not good listeners, put it that way. Also ungracios loosers. I hope!)

Good points, I don’t like to argue like that…Which is why I didn’t take the bait

[thisistheguy123Participant 2063]

Awakened wrote:

thisistheguy123 wrote:

My brother and I always have discussions, he’s very smart and our discussions usually lead to great talks.

Then you can find other things to talk about then politics, and probably religion. Agree to disagree and not to bring up the subject(s) anymore because they are hurting and not helping your relationship, and it will continue to get worse in the future.

I try, but he keeps trying to bait me because he knows I’m a conservative and he wants to argue for some reason.

The BLM movement almost tore us apart..For some reason he thought that all social movements were positive, and my response “The NAZIs were a social movement”…That was close to the tipping point in that argument for him

[ResidentEvil7Participant 9575]

I went from an independent at 18 (2000) that leans to the right more to being a hardcore conservative at 25 (2007). I didn’t know the differences between parties when I voted either way, but FOX News educated me on what a conservative is, and Obama in 2008 scared me away from liberalism.

I don’t care what people I don’t know say about me as a conservative. It’s not up to a liberal with intolerance for different views to decide what I should think, feel, and believe. That’s my choice. They say they want to stop hate, but they themselves are even bigger haters than they think conservatives are.

You seen how Hillary and Bernie supporters were like this election cycle; the burned down buildings with threatening messages sprayed on the wall, assaulted Trump supporters, violently canceled a Trump rally in Chicago, waved Mexican flags around, started anarchy in the streets. And these are the people who claim they’re all about progress? Bulls~~~; liberals are very hateful and have no tolerance. I have no use for them.

I’m going to quote Ursus from Beneath The Planet Of The Apes (1970): “A good liberal, is a dead liberal!”

https://themanszone.webs.com/

[Jim01Participant 6678]

Anonymous wrote:

My self, I never talk politics. Especialy with family. Does any one ever change there mind?

I find liberals to be far more intolerent than conservatives.Odd huh.

a fact of life and also the fact the Nazis were left wing has been airbrushed from history

I am a conservative and believe in freedom of the individual. I honestly couldn’t care less if people are gay, transgender or whatever…I am happy for them to live their lives without interference but expect the same in return (something that won’t ever happen)

[Maraudrz1Participant 2250]

I have a niece that is somewhat socialist. I have discussions with her and while she listens she is stubbornly liberal. She is a very smart young woman and does respect the men in her family. The problem is she has been so indoctrinated by our school system that getting her to change is going to be very difficult. I love her dearly and so will continue to work on her. But for the most part I don’t discuss religion or politics with anybody. It can be frustrating at least and dangerous at the most.

As for your brother the best thing I think to do is to talk about the weather, the stars, the architecture of a certain building anything but politics and religion. Liberals and Socialists are dead wrong and the ideology does kill people. Never in the world’s history has Socialism ever worked. The Roman Empire was brought down by Socialism. Most people think it was the barbarians. The barbarians were the final touch that put the Empire completely under. People started demanding goods and services such as we put out today. This continued until the Empire was so weak economically that the Empire couldn’t even afford to hire enough mercenaries to defend the Empire. Because of Socialism the producers were constantly paying higher and higher taxes just like the Liberals want to do today. Eventually the producers said to hell with it and quit producing, thus the Empire was weakened so much that they couldn’t defend themselves and the men had been so mistreated they wouldn’t fight. Sound familiar? If I am mistaken about this I am willing to stand corrected.

Women's brains and vagina have one thing in common. There is nothing in there until a man puts something in there.

[thisistheguy123Participant 2063]

ResidentEvil7 wrote:

I went from an independent at 18 (2000) that leans to the right more to being a hardcore conservative at 25 (2007). I didn’t know the differences between parties when I voted either way, but FOX News educated me on what a conservative is, and Obama in 2008 scared me away from liberalism.

I don’t care what people I don’t know say about me as a conservative. It’s not up to a liberal with intolerance for different views to decide what I should think, feel, and believe. That’s my choice. They say they want to stop hate, but they themselves are even bigger haters than they think conservatives are.

You seen how Hillary and Bernie supporters were like this election cycle; the burned down buildings with threatening messages sprayed on the wall, assaulted Trump supporters, violently canceled a Trump rally in Chicago, waved Mexican flags around, started anarchy in the streets. And these are the people who claim they’re all about progress? Bulls~~~; liberals are very hateful and have no tolerance. I have no use for them.

I’m going to quote Ursus from Beneath The Planet Of The Apes (1970): “A good liberal, is a dead liberal!”

That quote made me laugh

And yes, the Clinton campaign is full of corruption…I’m surprised her voters cannot see what’s clear as day, especially since that latest drop on youtube showing her party saying everything they did to ruin Trump’s rallies.

[ResidentEvil7Participant 9575]

I make a policy that helps. Talk politics with people who you know are on the same page as you. I talk politics with my friend and parents, because I know they’re Republican. If you end up talking politics with a stranger, keep it neutral, or say you’re not involved.

Years ago in the downtown of my town a liberal middle age couple (a ugly old woman and a fat ass husband) and when they called Sarah Palin a bad name, I called her a liberal bitch, and the beastly husband wanted to start a fist fight with me in the streets. I told him to go ahead, because the police will be here in a minute to throw you in jail, and he continued to threaten bodily injury. Nothing happened except the liberal assholes left along with their tough guy talk. Yeah, liberals are all tough talk, but they don’t act tough. They’re real c~~~s!

So my political policy is don’t talk politics with strangers or with people you know you’re on the other side of. It avoids heated discussions and it doesn’t accomplish anything.

https://themanszone.webs.com/

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thisistheguy123 wrote:

“If You Are Not a Liberal at 25, You Have No Heart. If You Are Not a Conservative at 35 You Have No Brain”

It really is pretty simple, Liberalism is childish idealism, most women, and fem gays are arrested in development, and their brains can never fully mature never achieve adulthood. You might think I’m being coy I assure you I am being perfectly serious. Think about the last fight you had with a woman before you became MGTOW, did you feel like you were arguing with an indignant child? In what rational world do you believe a Mc’Donalds employee should receive the same pay as say a factory or construction worker? In what adult world do we just do whatever we want regardless of the consequences? All you can do is nod when you agree and shake your head and smile when you don’t and constantly change the subject you can not reason with children brother, quit trying and love the darlings it’s out of your hands and that’s ok.

[thisistheguy123Participant 2063]

Maraudrz1 wrote:

I have a niece that is somewhat socialist. I have discussions with her and while she listens she is stubbornly liberal. She is a very smart young woman and does respect the men in her family. The problem is she has been so indoctrinated by our school system that getting her to change is going to be very difficult. I love her dearly and so will continue to work on her. But for the most part I don’t discuss religion or politics with anybody. It can be frustrating at least and dangerous at the most.

As for your brother the best thing I think to do is to talk about the weather, the stars, the architecture of a certain building anything but politics and religion. Liberals and Socialists are dead wrong and the ideology does kill people. Never in the world’s history has Socialism ever worked. The Roman Empire was brought down by Socialism. Most people think it was the barbarians. The barbarians were the final touch that put the Empire completely under. People started demanding goods and services such as we put out today. This continued until the Empire was so weak economically that the Empire couldn’t even afford to hire enough mercenaries to defend the Empire. Because of Socialism the producers were constantly paying higher and higher taxes just like the Liberals want to do today. Eventually the producers said to hell with it and quit producing, thus the Empire was weakened so much that they couldn’t defend themselves and the men had been so mistreated they wouldn’t fight. Sound familiar? If I am mistaken about this I am willing to stand corrected.

It’s very hard with young people who are indoctrinated at school, it seems the schooling system pushes the liberal mentality, but I’m sure there’s more funding in it for them to do so.

Kind of strange when money controls education…

[Maraudrz1Participant 2250]

This is a little off topic but one thing I definitely agree with Trump on is vouchers for schooling. The money needs to follow the child. If that happens then the school unions would be weakened considerably. Parents want to send their children to good schools. I watched a video of a school in, I think, NYC that is supposed to be a really good school. There were about 100 applicants per each student position. I seen mostly black mothers and fathers with their children trying to get their children into this school. Of course 99 per student position walked out of there in tears because they wanted to get their children out of the public school system. Sad. This also shows that black people want to succeed like the rest of us.

Women's brains and vagina have one thing in common. There is nothing in there until a man puts something in there.

[Duke TogoParticipant 2664]

You have 2 options:

1. Advise him you do not wish to discuss the matter with him ever again and then advise him why, ending the conversation there; or

2. Be yourself and engage in a discussion with him on the topic, even if it does get heated. Don’t avoid confrontation with your brother unless you are 100% certain it will end your relationship witHwith him. You are both GROWN men and brothers. Why you are afraid of opening up to your own brother on your thoughts is weird unless you know it will end the relationship.

This type of fear comes up in job interviews, not with family who should accept you and your differences.

[thisistheguy123Participant 2063]

Duke Togo wrote:

You have 2 options:

1. Advise him you do not wish to discuss the matter with him ever again and then advise him why, ending the conversation there; or

2. Be yourself and engage in a discussion with him on the topic, even if it does get heated. Don’t avoid confrontation with your brother unless you are 100% certain it will end your relationship witHwith him. You are both GROWN men and brothers. Why you are afraid of opening up to your own brother on your thoughts is weird unless you know it will end the relationship.

This type of fear comes up in job interviews, not with family who should accept you and your differences.

I think option 1 is definitely the more sane one.

Hearing a brother I’ve spent years supporting in every way possible say “I hate that you’re my brother” when I disagree with BLM was the last straw that proved to me he’s not worth engaging in heated conversations with

Me, I keep a level head and realize everyone is different and for good reason
He, wishes everyone in the world was like him and hates on anyone who doesn’t think the same.
…I just find this attitude completely messed up coming from a liberal who is open to a man becoming a woman, yet I cannot be a conservative.
…Weird weird world.

My liberal friends and I discuss these matters without it turning into hate on either side.
…Not sure why he’s so sensitive about something that doesn’t truly matter at the end of the day.

[Duke TogoParticipant 2664]

thisistheguy123 wrote:

Duke Togo wrote:

You have 2 options:

1. Advise him you do not wish to discuss the matter with him ever again and then advise him why, ending the conversation there; or

2. Be yourself and engage in a discussion with him on the topic, even if it does get heated. Don’t avoid confrontation with your brother unless you are 100% certain it will end your relationship witHwith him. You are both GROWN men and brothers. Why you are afraid of opening up to your own brother on your thoughts is weird unless you know it will end the relationship.

This type of fear comes up in job interviews, not with family who should accept you and your differences.

I think option 1 is definitely the more sane one.

Hearing a brother I’ve spent years supporting in every way possible say “I hate that you’re my brother” when I disagree with BLM was the last straw that proved to me he’s not worth engaging in heated conversations with

Me, I keep a level head and realize everyone is different and for good reason
He, wishes everyone in the world was like him and hates on anyone who doesn’t think the same.
…I just find this attitude completely messed up coming from a liberal who is open to a man becoming a woman, yet I cannot be a conservative.
…Weird weird world.

My liberal friends and I discuss these matters without it turning into hate on either side.
…Not sure why he’s so sensitive about something that doesn’t truly matter at the end of the day.

You are a MGHOW. Choosing the more sane option is totally understandable.

[RoyDalParticipant]

I vote for the so-called conservatives every time. This is merely because I want the bastards to work for it, meaning using the US political system as a giant piggy bank.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[thisistheguy123Participant 2063]

Duke Togo wrote:

thisistheguy123 wrote:

Duke Togo wrote:

You have 2 options:

1. Advise him you do not wish to discuss the matter with him ever again and then advise him why, ending the conversation there; or

2. Be yourself and engage in a discussion with him on the topic, even if it does get heated. Don’t avoid confrontation with your brother unless you are 100% certain it will end your relationship witHwith him. You are both GROWN men and brothers. Why you are afraid of opening up to your own brother on your thoughts is weird unless you know it will end the relationship.

This type of fear comes up in job interviews, not with family who should accept you and your differences.

I think option 1 is definitely the more sane one.

Hearing a brother I’ve spent years supporting in every way possible say “I hate that you’re my brother” when I disagree with BLM was the last straw that proved to me he’s not worth engaging in heated conversations with

Me, I keep a level head and realize everyone is different and for good reason
He, wishes everyone in the world was like him and hates on anyone who doesn’t think the same.
…I just find this attitude completely messed up coming from a liberal who is open to a man becoming a woman, yet I cannot be a conservative.
…Weird weird world.

My liberal friends and I discuss these matters without it turning into hate on either side.
…Not sure why he’s so sensitive about something that doesn’t truly matter at the end of the day.

You are a MGHOW. Choosing the more sane option is totally understandable.

Thanks, I just wish I could be myself around someone I supported being himself all his and my life…I find this whole ordeal very frustrating, but I can make the sacrifices…I mean, someone clearly has to, won’t be him

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