Learning from my Mistakes

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    Quiet Thom
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    I was married almost 32 years when my wife passed away. We married young. Two kids, a mortgage, her a stay st home mom that worked if she felt like it, and my role was the breadwinner and her caregiver (she had a lot of health issues) the last 21 years of her life. For the most part, I hated being married. I felt like a trapped, emotionless drone sleep walking through life. I forgot what joy was. I made peace with the fact that this was my existence for the good of my family until I took a dirt nap. The dirt nap thing sounded pretty good at times. I ALWAYS put my wife and children first. As a mother, she was second to none and made a positive impression to whom ever she met. She was a good daughter to her mom, a good sister to her siblings, and a great friend to those in her circle. As a wife, I guess you could say that she was at the low end of average….meaning completely unappreciative of the sacrifices I made to ensure she and the kids had a good life. She never acknowledged it. Like most marriages, sex was something other people did and you know what? I really didn’t care. I was committed to our marriage but the thought of sex with her wasn’t anything I desired anymore. She had this woman’s logic that was a mind f~~~ to me and, pretty much, every day I had to deal with something she heard or read about how things I should have done to show how much I loved her. Or, Oprah had a show on how men should treat their woman or some other s~~~. Occasionally, I reached my limit and would speak my mind (usually very loudly) and put her in her place, but I didn’t like doing that at all. I didn’t like jumping ugly with my wife. The last year of her life, we got along very, very well. Maybe she knew her hourglass was running out of sand…I’m not sure. I held her as she died. My son and daughter (both in their early 30’s) and my saintly mother in law were there as well. Life goes on so I decided to get busy living. Got a motorcycle, did some remodeling of my house, and did a brutal assessment of my life. I also looked into dating. I admit, I did miss the feminine energy that I was so accustomed to so I dipped my toe into the water. The first woman I dated was 10 years younger than me….great cook, wine enthusiast, owned property, and was pretty, fun, and smart. She was also an angry drunk, an emotional terrorist, and a world class bitch when she didn’t get her way. I dumped her after 6 months. And yes, she wanted me back and tried twice to make that happen. I remain friendly with her and we chat every few months or so. She is a good person but a gawd awful girlfriend. The next contestant was a nice Irish girl from Southie. She absolutely ruined me for all other women. She was nurturing and I discovered that I liked that. My mom, my departed wife, and my first dating mistake weren’t ever nurturing. I admit I was very suspicious at first. I’m talking voluntary back rubs, foot rubs, and the sex was the best I ever had. She was Suzy Homemaker. Cooked, cleaned, sewed, and f~~~ed like a porn star. Anytime and anywhere. Seriously. We lasted until she kept asking me about living together which is something that I DIDN’T want. I get that middle aged woman want to plant a flag and stake their claim. But you are not going to do that s~~~ on my property. Then, she gave me an ultimatum. That was a mistake. I think she over estimated the value of her stock. We parted fairly quickly after that. Imagine. Sprinting forward to my present relationship (it ain’t a relations~~~ yet), I have an attractive, sweet, nurturing woman, that has her own house, earns her own money, and makes her own way. We either split the dining out bill or take turns paying for it. We enjoy our time together but understand that we need personal time. I repair things at her house and she cleans my house and cooks. Does she want us to cohabitate? Yes. I think it’s her way to plant a flag. Apparently, she thinks I’m a keeper. She knows I am never getting married again and she doesn’t have an issue with that…..at least that’s what she tells me. I have told her about my marriage experience. She is twice divorced and has shared her stories with me. So, yes. I sleep with the enemy, but I sleep with one eye open. I enjoy having her in my life. She is a happy person, not moody ever, and the most stable woman I’ve ever met. Truth is, if it ended tomorrow, I’d miss her initially but I’d be more than fine. I was looking for a girlfriend when I met her. Make no mistake gentlemen…we are a commodity and our value is rising. Don’t ever forget that.

    #51153
    RedHeadedStranger
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    Right on dude, thanks for sharing.  I’m glad you are having success dating, and I hope it continues; it’s fun, isn’t it?  Just keep it up until it’s not fun anymore, that’s my rule.  and remember, as soon as she moves in, it’s not fun anymore.

    Gratz on the bike man, I did the same thing. love it.

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    Welcome, and thanks for the story.

    That was somehow inspiring. I am glad things are working out for you now man.

    Make no mistake gentlemen…we are a commodity and our value is rising. Don’t ever forget that.

    I will keep this in mind. 🙂

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    Quiet Thom
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    I have the same philosophy as you do and this is how I put it:  If it stops being fun, it stops being. Unlike a lot of men on this site, I have more years in back of me than in front of me. So, if someone makes problems in my life, they have to go and be someone else’s problem. I love my lady…she’s been there and done that and appreciates a good man. However, I’ll turn on her like an inbred Doberman if she f~~~s with me. That’s the beauty (for men) of not being married. I’ve earned the right to be happy and have no tolerance for drama or bulls~~~. There has been a couple of times that I put my foot down with my present girlfriend. Early in our relationship she started doing stupid woman s~~~…was it to test my resolve? I think yes! I was more than ready to put my boogie shoes on and that shocked the s~~~ out of her. True….I love her BUT I love me a whole lot more. Things have been peaceful since. She has admitted that she thinks long and hard before she says something that may p~~~ me off. Sadly, isn’t that the typical dynamic between men and women? If a woman has you by the short and curlies, she (more often than not) heads to Jump Street, if you know what I’m sayin’. They have no boundaries. If she believes that you won’t tolerate her s~~~, she measures her words. It’s a universal truth…..the one that cares the least is the one with the most power.

    And yeah……my motorcycle helped me discover joy again. Quick story….a couple of years ago, I took my bike (2003 Honda Valkyrie) to Home Depot to pick up a few items. The cashier saw I was holding my helmet. She had a picture of her son in a clip on on her apron. She looks at me a says that her son died in a motorcycle accident and, as a result, she has forbidden her husband from riding his motorcycle. AND that I should not ride a motorcycle. Being a gentleman, I told her I was sorry for her loss, and that her husband was a fortunate man (yes, I was being sarcastic) and that what I do or do not do is none of her concern but I appreciate the gesture. That shut her up. Douche. My son happened to be there when I said that. He said laughing “Dad…that was kind of an asshole thing to say.” I said “Son, sometimes you have to tell a woman to mind her own f~~~in’ business.”

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    Jin
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    We lasted until she kept asking me about living together which is something that I DIDN’T want

    I’m impressed you stood your ground man. Work hard and everything will eventually fall in place. 🙂

    "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it"

    #51273
    RoyDal
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    Welcome!

    Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

    #51278
    ILiveAgain
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    I think this is where feminism f~~~ed up. They didn’t see that men could change. They thought men are ‘all the same’ and we would never see what they were doing.

    Now a growing number of men are disinvesting their love from woman as there simply is no long term return.

    The ‘freed women’ have now reverted to their natural state …. whores. So the value of a vigina has crashed.

    Once women lost that value, men asked ‘what are you bringing to the table’ ….. to which the only answer can be ….. nagging ….. which used to be balanced with a feminine vigina.

    Because of this men, who were previously vigina stupid, looked inward and asked the question that ‘dare not speak it’s name’

    What do I want?

    And thats when the whole facade came falling down. Because it was the one and only question they never asked us and we never asked ourselves.

    The games up girls.

    We are now not just men …. but independent men …. of means. There is no way back from that.

    Freedom

    #52443
    RedHeadedStranger
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    I’ll turn on her like an inbred Doberman if she f~~~s with me. [Then later he writes:] I said “Son, sometimes you have to tell a woman to mind her own f~~~in’ business.”

    F~~~in’ A.

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