Judgemental faulty logic

[The_reality_factorParticipant 211]

Had to do a brain dump on this one!

Being an older single male, most of the people in my age group are married or are in a common marriage arrangements. Generally, this means that I don’t spend my time going to dinner party’s or social events with married couples etc. – basically, men like me don’t fit in with the “norm”. When I was married and younger, I did this kind of stuff and I really didn’t enjoy it. I found it extremely boring and a big waste of time!

The lifestyle I have decided on and have slowly gravitated to is what many would term as a lone wolf. I do enjoy socialising to a certain degree but given the choice, I’d rather be by myself. This is mainly due to the fact, that I find it hard to tolerate the insane nonsense that dribbles out of many peoples mouths. Moreover, a lot of people I know or people in general, just seem to have some form of constant drama involved in their life – I can’t be bothered with this stuff. As they say: been there done that 😉

Society in general, seems to have an issue with lone wolf type people. They see them as having mental health issues, these people hide behind computers, are generally angry people, are physically unattractive, are a danger to society, are just weird and odd and other shamming and incorrect assumptions. Many people find it hard to believe that I haven’t re-partnered, re-married, socialise or live a lifestyle that “everyone” else is following. I’ve been described as bitter, twisted, misogynistic, damaged goods, hurt and that there’s something going on with me that’s just note quite right!

They could be right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Overtime, you become accustomed to this sort of language and behaviour from people. Quite frankly, I just don’t comment, defend or argue with “normal” people any more. I just smile at them and move on!

Typically, people rarely self analyse their own lives or lifestyle. Many of the people, in particular men, that make these comments. Live in cohabitation arrangements with a female. Many complain about their loss of freedom, the things they have to do – to keep their woman happy, the lack of sex they have with their sole mate. These men are also fighting hammer and nail with each other up the corporate ladder, to earn more money, more status and other behaviour for what I see as fulfilling one certain requirement, that is HYPERGAMY.

The women I know in cohabitation relationships appear to have a strong sense of entitlement, are constantly in some form of constant acquisition mode and most obvious, is to have total and utter control over their male partner finances, time and decision making process.

If these enlightened individuals actually took the time to look in the mirror – I think they would find they are not living the dream. More importantly, the males are not even aware that they are basically slaves to many masters of manipulation and abuse. Unfortunately, the general population will sit back and make judgement calls on the lone wolves of society. They will continually see lone wolves as tormented individuals and feel pity for them, or worse, try and conform them.

As the old saying goes: ignorance is bliss

Question is, what is so very wrong in societies eyes with being a lone wolf ?

[Soldier-MedicParticipant 2566]

It depends upon from which perspective you are asking the question.

From women? The answer is obvious. You are not partnered. Therefore undomesticated and a bad example to their men. You are a threat. Because of this, every bulls~~~ stereotype about lone wolves is launched in your direction. This behavior has become so prevalent that I believe that it is not longer conscious in the minds of women why they behave this way. They just behave this way because it is ‘normal’ behavior. For women to accept a man going his own way they would have to look in the mirror.

From men? The idea of living a completely different life is so different that it is frightening. You have a frightening lifestyle my friend. Frightening because partnered men can’t conceive of living the way that you do. Those that have considered it, find the idea too much to contemplate. They have been programmed all of their lives that happiness lies in being in a relationship. The relationship is supposed to provide validation. Most are still waiting for this to happen. For men to go their own way, they would have to look in to a mirror.

From society at large. Dude! You are going your own way. This concept goes counter to almost every governmental, social, and religious institution that exists. To accept that your way of living is valid is to accept that there may just be a modicum of invalidity to their proscribed way of living. For society to collectively accept men going their own way, society would collectively have to look in to a mirror.

Looking in to the mirror is the surest way to find the biggest problem in your own life.

There be dragons.

"I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.

[RoyDalParticipant]

The_reality_factor wrote:

Question is, what is so very wrong in societies eyes with being a lone wolf ?

We humans seem to have a built in compulsion to revile nonconformity. Wander away and the herd will turn its back on you.

The most open minded and tolerant people I know are MGTOW. Those society labels as successful are rarely so. It occurs to me that many men go their own way because they have the strength of character to be open minded and tolerant.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[heads-upParticipant 320]

The_reality_factor wrote:

Had to do a brain dump on this one!

Thats right,just do a brain dump with it.
Ask yourself if anything about what is “normal” by trad norms is actually sane.Living for 60+ years with the same female in a house that you spend a life paying for.What is considered normal is to me utter madness.Its just culture thats all.Our hunter gatherer ancestors spent most of their time in male company and kids where raised by the tribe and women did lady stuff together.They had a much shorter life expectancy than us too.
Marrage is just the tip of the iceberg in terms of nonsense really

[stopmockingmanParticipant 441]

Being a man is akin to being a lone wolf. A real man always questions his life, his purpose, his design for greatness.
Woman do not, they want complacent man, controllable man, a family man.
It is possible to play those roles, but at the end of your life, you will die alone.
Born alone, die alone.
In the meantime, a man’s life belongs to him, and the maker.
Relish yourself, the lone wolf cast away, and be glad you are not a pack rat, part of the maze.
I have lived both lives, one is comfortable, the other much more exciting.
With life in it.
Cheers, my friend.

[SkeptiskParticipant 3679]

A lone wolf cannot be controlled, so he/she becomes a threat to those with control issues.

As for why theses people have those issues, that makes them seem to have this need to control others, is probably because of lack of potential resources. So, being a slave isn’t conductive to a lone wolf lifestyle.

"Expecting to find a decent woman on a dating site is like dumpster diving and expecting to come out with a gourmet meal." Won'tGetFooledAgain

[stopmockingmanParticipant 441]

In this physical world, we are all somewhat slaves, of physical, financial, some social needs.
We are not an isolate island, we are part of the collective structure of this earth.
There are laws, controls, money, lords, and work units.
I recommend you read wisdom, Ecclesiastes.
Not a hard read to understand.
At the end of the day, it’s not even about religion, it’s about man.
Going his own way.
MGTOW all the way.

[The_reality_factorParticipant 211]

Great replies and I appreciate the feedback.

Becoming a lone wolf or generally going your own way is a transformation that happens over time – well, it did for me at least – a lifetime!

It was a combination of some pretty s~~~ty experiences (actually a lifetime of s~~~ty experiences), coupled with the question of “something is seriously wrong here” to reading and becoming more aware and becoming educated on society’s “dirty little secret” and lots more. In short, you could say it was a transformation into personal development!

The nasty ones will say we don’t understand or relate to women or use shaming language. The truth of the matter is, that unfortunately, we are extremely well aware and educated on the nature of the female species.

As many of you have pointed out, the general population feel totally uncomfortable when and individual goes against the grain – not in a totally negative or destructive way, just different. As an older and wiser man told me “your lifestyle choice (mine), makes people question their own lives. And deep down they don’t like the potential truth and would rather hide from it or better still, for you to conform – it makes them sleep better at night“.

In sum: the lone wolf type of male or MGTOW is a Transformer. He’s faced reality and as they say “sucked down the red pills” over many years. His male counterparts are totally and completely unaware of the Decepticons in their lives, and have allowed to be control and manipulate by them – all in the name of “LOVE”.

A women free zone, is a happy home 😀

[DrAK74Participant 77]

Since he refuses to conform…he is a threat to the order of things….simple as that. Women don’t like what they cannot control through pussy, so they try to shame or isolate to protect the status quo. I am new to this lifestyle and am waking up to my potential that was suppressed for the entirety of my marriage. I’m free!

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

Being a lone wolf, which is a a strong form of ghosting level in MGTOW (as I see it) can make you at greater risk of mental health issues, if it isn’t managed. You can overcome it, but it can happen. The Blue Pill world uses involvement in a relationship with a woman as a measure of being normal. So, that is why they get on with it. And normal is seen as safe to them and a shortcut of measuring risk. So, when you deviate, they get iffy on it, and will do s~~~ testing of you if you choose that. The thing here is that lack of normal doesn’t mean inferior, or wrong, it is just lacking being normal, and can end up being superior.

If you can show that you have a really good life, and are a success, and are a lone wolf, that will end up working well, and you get respect. Just the Blue Pill world is always seeking shortcuts. They are often living in misery of the normal life, and your being different, and well, ends up making them question why they put up with what they do. And with that, having a really strong and positive reason for NOT being in a relationship with a woman, is what counts. Being able to give answers that dismiss in peace and lets it rest, would help here. I take, you just want them to go away, and stop hounding. I know I am in a similar boat. I give a nice framed answer that would say NAWALT to them, like I just don’t know a woman I can do anything with now, that is a fit for who I am, and I am now set in my ways. I also would say my life works for me, and I don’t feel a need to add a woman, for the sake of adding a woman. And I don’t want to compromise either, just work on building my life. I also don’t care what strangers think, only those who impact my bottom line.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

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