Jack ass or I think we are a movement.

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

I have to admit that when I took the red pill I took it for me and me alone. Then I saw how many others are taking it too. Not just here, but the hits on the YouTube video’s, and in the public internet, print media.

I always pester Keymaster about stats, data, etc. Because that Google trends graph would look the same going from 0 to 12000 as from 0 to 1mm. Are we a resistance group or a movement.

Below is a recent article. More and more articles like this come out every day.

Dennis Prager. Garuantee me freedom from divorce rape and I might try marriage.

Until then and I really haven’t heard this before about staying single becoming the normal.

I’m too old to go back even if the world changed tomorrow. And as I have pointed out before the demographics of MGTOW will crash the world’s economy.

Gentleman, I think we are a movement.

http://m.townhall.com/columnists/dennisprager/2015/12/29/im-not-ready-to-get-married-n2097722/page/full

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[Biggvs_DickvsParticipant 3725]

People married because it was a primary societal value. People understood that it was better for society and for the vast majority of its members that

Bulls~~~. Monogamous marriage is a relatively recent phenomenon. The norm 300+ years ago and beyond was shacking up or some variation therein. Marriage was primarily used by the upper classes to secure legacies and property rights.

The author of that article is a shill.

"Data, I would be delighted to offer any advice I can on understanding women. When I have some, I'll let you know." --Captain Picard,

[Blue SkiesParticipant 15665]

mgtow will continue to grow because it only gained popularity recently.

also think about how in japan, the majority of millenial generation men are herbivores. this is slightly different from mgtow but similar nonetheless.

the world economy will slow down due to the shift in age demographics.

MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.

[RoyDalParticipant]

Here’s my favorite quote:

After a certain point, being single becomes the norm and the thought of marrying becomes less, not more, appealing. So over time you can actually become less “ready” to get married.

It means, really, that over time your rational mind figures out how to overcome the primitive urges of your hormonal system and govern your behavior — with your long term best interests in mind.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Biggvs_DickvsParticipant 3725]

More gems from the article:

In addition to economic benefits, the vast majority of human beings do better when they have someone to come home to, someone to care for, and someone to care for them.

LOL. Since when do women do any of that? Oh wait, he means that men should be willing to do all of that for virtually nothing in return.

Finally, this statement reflects another negative trend in society — that of people being guided by feelings rather than by standards or obligations.

He’s absolutely right about this. I am personally guided on this by the FEELING that I don’t want to be assraped in divorce court. This guy’s a crab in the marriage crab pot trying to drag the rest of us down with him.

"Data, I would be delighted to offer any advice I can on understanding women. When I have some, I'll let you know." --Captain Picard,

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

RoyDal,

Right on. I haven’t heard that a lot. The inertia of life (I just coined that). Even if I found a unicorn, I like my single life a little bit more everyday.

Even if tomorrow the laws were changed and marriage was a win, win, win for men, I don’t feel like changing, I’m becoming set in my ways a little more everyday.

I think that is the big fear. If men learn that they can become comfortable as a single, they will never change.

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[HitmanParticipant]

Well, with 12.000 men here with the same /similar ideology ‘ s. .seems like a movement has begun ..seems like NOT to go your own way is insanity. .

[Blue SkiesParticipant 15665]

MGTOW will certainly continue to grow in 2016 because it only gained popularity recently.

also think about japan, where the majority of millenial men are herbivores. slightly different from mgtow but similar

MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.

[Silverstone the SecondParticipant]

A lot of fellas out there don’t want to get married much like they don’t want to walk through a minefield. They don’t know anything about MGTOW much like I didn’t know, but we all knew something was up. Society is f~~~ed up, women are out of their minds, and we are thrown away like trash. MGTOW will grow, look how much it’s grown in the short time already.

Feminism is a movement where opinions are presented as facts and emotions are presented as evidence.

[JackinovParticipant 5229]

Depends on how you look at it. You see,

Back in the days when men weren’t automatically genocentrically crushing just for being men, this type of awakening wouldn’t even have been a need. However, 60 years of the pussification of men and general blue-pill behavior have convinced the hyperglamous women (which is all of them) that they’ll always have this resource of blue-pilled men who will bend and sway to the wind of their whims. In fact, they can’t imagine it any other way.

Any deviation from the service or non-worship of women is met with STRONG reaction, whether it be in the form of the shaming language that Keymaster has succinctly compiled in the “Read” section of this site, to the general emotional manipulation they have learned so well to employ.

Women as a collective keep VERY good stock of their assets, which are the men and how much money (work, money, etc), they have available to them.

When a man goes MGTOW, as least two things happen.

1. He suddenly becomes impervious to their shaming language, and focuses on himself.

2. His wealth is now for himself and himself only.

Women KNOW when they are losing value, even if they lie about it. And they can sense how much they’ve got to 1/1000 scale accuracy.

A man that has gone his own way moves in his own direction, however, a woman, seeing that there is a man no longer under her/their will, sees it as him moving away from her. As in, he is no longer orbiting around her, and is no longer able to be called upon.

So depends on how you look at it. A lot of men going their own way are a lot of men moving their resources away the greedy clutches of women, and that’s bound to get noticed.

are you a chia pet in man drag

[SpacemonkeyParticipant 1481]

I’m not sure I want mgtow to become a movement as it would then become formalised with leaders and policy and all the rest of the bulls~~~ that goes along with that. Feminism is a movement and has become twisted by a vocal minority of radical lesbians, so much so that most normal women would not self identify as feminist.

The great strength of mgtow is that it is what it says on the box; we are going our own way. It’s great that sites like this exist so that we can share our experiences and views and I would personally be very glad if mgtow was to expand exponentially but that is mainly because I would love to see those feminazi c~~~s eat humble pie and admit they got it wrong. I know this would never happen of course, when was the last time you heard a woman admit to being wrong, but I can dream, can’t I?

“Long is the way and hard, that out of Hell leads up to light.”

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Doesn’t qualify as a “movement” for several reasons. A “movement” is an active joining and forming of a forward marching army (figuratively speaking) directed toward one common goal.

MGTOW is more……. a population of individuals not actively participating.

Think of it this way. The garbage strike in London (1972 I believe). The garbage sat in the street and stank for weeks. Did women take it to the dump? No. They just waited for MEN to do it. And men didn’t do it. That’s how it was effective.

Men already make the world go round. Men don’t need to collectively DO anything. We need to just NOT do what men have been doing and the fabric of society falls apart. Chaos. By doing NOTHING.

“Movements” require unity, a common goal. Conference calls. Meetings. FUNDING. Marchers. Picketing. Voting. Very often a “leader”. But MGTOW is affective without any of that s~~~… because men already do enough.

MGTOW is the only “movement” that works and is totally successful – without funding. That’s not possible for movements like “gay pride” and “feminism”. You don’t need to shut down traffic and have a goddam MGTOW parade for it to be effective.

MGTOW are not “activists”, so it can’t be called a “movement”.
MGTOW are more like non-participants.

It is the manifestation of one word: “no”.

This is the fundamental attitude and approach. We don’t need to go down to the courthouse to negotiate with feminists to have the laws changed to balance out the inequities in the divorce and anti-family court system, We just say “no f~~~ing marriage contracts”…. teach prevention….. and the ENTIRE point is moot. If all men decided this, the entire divorce in industry would cave in on itself. It becomes a total non-issue – immediately.

That’s why it works. And why divorce lawyers f~~~ing HATE us.

Spacemonkey wrote:

I’m not sure I want mgtow to become a movement as it would then become formalised with leaders and policy and all the rest of the bulls~~~ that goes along with that. Feminism is a movement

Right.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[uchibenkeiParticipant 7965]

Spacemonkey wrote:

I’m not sure I want mgtow to become a movement as it would then become formalised with leaders and policy and all the rest of the bulls~~~ that goes along with that. Feminism is a movement

Yes. It’s a bowel movement.

I bathe in the tears of single moms.

[HitmanParticipant]

This man is taking notes. .The schooling here is priceless. .

[HitmanParticipant]

And Jan..you are not a jackass.we are just learning more all the time brother!

[BeerParticipant 11832]

RoyDal wrote:

Here’s my favorite quote:

After a certain point, being single becomes the norm and the thought of marrying becomes less, not more, appealing. So over time you can actually become less “ready” to get married.

It means, really, that over time your rational mind figures out how to overcome the primitive urges of your hormonal system and govern your behavior — with your long term best interests in mind.

I definitely agree with this. I would have got married when I was like 21 or 22 if I met a chick smart enough to sink the hooks in back then, because the way I defined marriage back then was mainly what I saw in my family. My grandparents seemed happily married in their old age, and several pairs of aunts/uncles seemed happily married…I kind of just figured my mom and a couple of my aunts were c~~~s…so really the odds of a decent marriage at that point seemed good to me, as long as I didn’t marry a c~~~. Of course though…considering these women are now 60ish on average, I think its simply a matter of them being right on the edge of feminism taking over.

Once I got into the real world a bit more, my views begin to change. I began to meet more people that were older than me yet younger than my parents generation…basically people who had married into women who grew up thinking feminism bulls~~~ was the norm, and was good…the brainwashed generation. Almost every single one of these guys were f~~~ing miserable after the first year or two when they were out of the honeymoon phase, and would say never f~~~ing getting married. Of the ones who got divorced…the ones that thought they got a good deal were the ones that got a fair deal…practically all of them didn’t even get this though, they just got straight up destroyed.

I know guys that literally had proof of the wife cheating on them and running up debt on s~~~ for her a month before she filed for divorce…and it didn’t matter, they got f~~~ed. I know guys that if I was an older gentlemen with a daughter, and she brought them home, I’d be the happiest dad alive my daughter picked a winner…doesn’t matter, they got crushed. I know guys that inherited property and lost it in a divorce. Its just ridiculous how hard the average guy gets f~~~ed over.

When you hear two guys talking about a divorce, the conversation is usually “How much did you have to pay her?” When you hear two women talking about divorce the conversation is usually “How much did you get?” Yeah no thanks, I’m not playing that game even though I gladly would have when I was younger and dumber…thank god they all wanted to ride the carousel when they were younger, it’ll probably end up saving me hundreds of thousands of dollars in the future.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Beer wrote:

When you hear two guys talking about a divorce, the conversation is usually “How much did you have to pay her?” When you hear two women talking about divorce the conversation is usually “How much did you get?”

Speechless.

Beer wrote:

Its just ridiculous how hard the average guy gets f~~~ed over.

And the average MGTOW f~~~s them back. Every MGTOW is +1 single mother who turned to stripping to feed her bastard thug spawn….. while ensuring some divorce lawyer will be standing in line at a soup kitchen for his next meal.

… while Paula Shelam and MRA’s are so ineffective they are scraping the gum from under movie theatre seats and asking “would you like fries with that?”

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 0]

Another example:
Remember during the war in Vietnam the American army couldn’t find the Vietcong in “battalion” size groups to fight. Viets would make sneak attacks when they were least expected and then melt into the jungle. But they never gave the American army a chance to fight them.
MGTOW is the Vietcong and the feminazi is the American army.
Remember how it turned out for the American army. Eventually, it will turn out the same way for the feminists. Some of us won’t live to see this but you younger guys will. Don’t give them a target and they (feminists) will self destruct all on their own.

[Mr. SpockParticipant 10910]

I don’t believe we are a movement either. We are a group of like minded individuals who are sharing their experiences and information. We are providing warnings to our younger peers. We all agree that marriage is scam and that the society and it’s laws are against men in general. Here are some tidbits from the article;

In addition, at least two bad things happen the longer you wait to get “ready” to be married.

One is that, if you are a woman, the number of quality single men declines. Among deniers of unpleasant realities — people known as progressives, leftists, and feminists — this truth is denied and labelled “sexist.” But, as Susan Patton, a Princeton graduate, wrote in an article titled “Advice for the young women of Princeton,” published in Princeton’s student newspaper: “Find a husband on campus before you graduate. … From a sheer numbers perspective, the odds will never be as good to be surrounded by all of these extraordinary men.”

This above doesn’t list the advantages for MEN just women. Why? There are none. The statement is basically, “Hurry up and sucker a guy before he figures out that marriage is a scam.” Here’s another gem;

And one more thing: If you’re 25 and not ready to commit to another person, in most cases — even if you are a kind person, and a responsible worker or serious student — “I’m not ready to get married” means “I’m not ready to stop being preoccupied with myself,” or to put it as directly as possible, “I’m not ready to grow up.” (No job on earth makes you grow up like getting married does.)

Pure shaming tactics. You are selfish for not wanting to be preoccupied with another person and devote your time to someone other than yourself and the usual “You are not willing to grow up” argument. As far as I am concerned, I grew up when I got out on my own and took care of myself. No one pays my bills for me. No one does s~~~ for me for free.
How about one more?

And then there is the economic argument. Many single men, for example, say they are not ready to get married because they don’t have the income they would like to have prior to getting married. As responsible as this may sound, however, this is not a particularly rational argument. Why is marrying while at a low income a bad idea? In fact, marriage may be the best way to increase one’s income. Men’s income rises after marriage. They have less time to waste, and someone to help support — two spurs to hard work and ambition, not to mention that most employers prefer men who are married. And can’t two people live on less money than each would need if they lived on their own, paying for two apartments?

Not a rational argument? No woman will marry you if you don’t have the Benjamin’s to back her up. I especially like the “Marriage may be the best way to increase one’s income” BS. I’ve never met a man who increased his income/worth by getting married. If anything, his worth and ability to save money DECLINES. If you are a woman however, then yes your income rises after marriage. In the above, they mention how after getting married, “men have less time to waste and someone to help support.” It should read “men have less time to waste and someone to support.” There is no ‘help” from the woman. She quits her job within a year or after getting pregnant. For a woman, marriage is retirement and having a kid becomes her golden handshake out of the rat race.

Feminism isn't about equality with men, it's about leverage over men.

[RockmaninoffParticipant 1641]

Ooh, Denis Prager. I like him. He runs a Youtube channel with cute animations.

Yeah, he’s a bit on the conservative side, and says some baffling things sometimes, but he usually cuts through a lot of the leftist bulls~~~, a welcome breath of fresh air.

Fun fact: he got divorced.

". . . elle, suivant l’usage des femmes et des chats qui ne viennent pas quand on les appelle et qui viennent quand on ne les appelle pas, s’arrêta devant moi et m’adressa la parole"—Prosper Mérimée

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