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It’s backfiring spectacularly with unforeseen consequences!
First strike, really painful, a nightmare becoming real (unless you’re a MGTOW)
22 november 2017 sentence
LTRs are being equalled to actual cohabitation (therefore to marriage contract: cohabitation have reduced prizes for women but still quite similar to marriage contract) even if two persons don’t share the same house!And massive, unexpected, counterfire
12 april 2018 sentence
Ex-wives who are in LTRs lose the right to alimonies.
It doesn’t matter if they live with the other man, or not, it suffice that they’re in a LTR and then they lose the alimonies!The only matter is that the first is from the supreme court, the second is from a local court, but it’s still an excellent sign.
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It’s backfiring spectacularly with unforeseen consequences!
First strike, really painful, a nightmare becoming real (unless you’re a MGTOW)
22 november 2017 sentence
LTRs are being equalled to actual cohabitation (therefore to marriage contract: cohabitation have reduced prizes for women but still quite similar to marriage contract) even if two persons don’t share the same house!<iframe class=”wp-embedded-content” sandbox=”allow-scripts” security=”restricted” src=”https://www.laleggepertutti.it/200729_si-puo-essere-conviventi-senza-abitare-nella-stessa-casa/embed#?secret=zHQ03iwG5V” data-secret=”zHQ03iwG5V” width=”500″ height=”350″ title=”“Si può essere conviventi senza abitare nella stessa casa?” — La Legge per tutti” frameborder=”0″ marginwidth=”0″ marginheight=”0″ scrolling=”no”></iframe>
And massive, unexpected, counterfire
12 april 2018 sentence
Ex-wives who are in LTRs lose the right to alimonies.
It doesn’t matter if they live with the other man, or not, it suffice that they’re in a LTR and then they lose the alimonies!<iframe class=”wp-embedded-content” sandbox=”allow-scripts” security=”restricted” src=”https://www.laleggepertutti.it/202145_se-lex-ha-una-relazione-perde-lassegno-di-mantenimento/embed#?secret=EJm1xx8Mql” data-secret=”EJm1xx8Mql” width=”500″ height=”350″ title=”“Se l’ex ha una relazione perde l’assegno di mantenimento” — La Legge per tutti” frameborder=”0″ marginwidth=”0″ marginheight=”0″ scrolling=”no”></iframe>
The only matter is that the first is from the supreme court, the second is from a local court, but it’s still an excellent sign.
Oh come on you know its not over, the women are going to get the gynostate to change the law so they alone dont lose alimomy.
They want to keep f~~~ing over the men and getting paid for it.
You know this is their next step. You all see it coming.
Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.
I know, that’s why I did choose MGTOW, and that’s also why I highlighted the fact that the first (LTR = marriage contract) is from the supreme court while the second is from a local court.
Point is that they have to put efforts.
Let them working hard to reverse this.
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Ex-wives who are in LTRs lose the right to alimonies.
If the LTR equals actual cohabitation – and therefore marriage – then it makes sense (in a Gynocentric way) that the X-wives lose alimony from the X- husband.
I wouldn’t call it an excellent sign per say, just logical according to their own f~~~ed up Gynocentric Laws.
Fact remains that the Man is f~~~ed by even dating the bitch since she becomes a defacto wife even if they’re not cohabitating.
F~~~ed up laws for a f~~~ed up world and they’re not done yet. They’re desperate to entrap Men into the tengle of the inJustice System to benefit these bitches one way or another, never mind marriage.Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!Seriously, how do they prove a long term relationship when you live separately?
Going to be interesting, keep any updates rolling in.
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Seriously, how do they prove a long term relationship when you live separately?
Women don’t have to prove anything. They just say whatever and the courts accept it. If she says you’re dating/ltr, makes no difference if you don’t agree.
Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

Anonymous5Hilarious!!!! It’s great to see a gynocentric money grab backfire on them so quickly.
All gynocentrism eventually backfires.
When they made divorce rape so easy with “No Fault Divorce” the number of marriages declined and men started cohabiting instead. When they invented the palimony or De Facto laws then single households started rising, and have risen ever since.
The “Child Support Rape” laws are a major factor in our declining birth rates but you’ll never hear the Blue Pill media acknowledge it.
This #METOO movement is already backfiring as more and more men are avoiding being alone with women under any circumstances.If she says you’re dating/ltr, makes no difference if you don’t agree.
That’s when you bring in your other “friends with benefits” including your “gay lover” to testify against her. Subpoena the Chads she’s f~~~ing on the side. Bring dinner receipts where you got separate checks. And appeal appeal appeal until you get to a court that has a standard of evidence.
Then sue the bitch for your legal costs.
Scorched earth.
Seriously, how do they prove a long term relationship when you live separately?
Golden Rule Number 2:
If you give money to woman, that’s a major sign that she’s eligible to lifetime support from youIndeed: golden rule applies here. The court said that if “the persons supports each other, particularly there’s a shared bank account or credit card”
For your curiosity, Golden Rule Number 1 is:
If procreation happened and you hear the phrase “the superior interests of the child”, then the man must give money to the woman.Both rules are universal and applies in all the world.
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Seriously, how do they prove a long term relationship when you live separately?
Women don’t have to prove anything. They just say whatever and the courts accept it. If she says you’re dating/ltr, makes no difference if you don’t agree.
No, they have to show your credit card that you gave them to use, bills paid by you for them, and so on.
A shared bank account is the master proof, that trumps everything else.Banks, in XXI century, are the new church, and bank employees are the new priests and witnesses.
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What would make a relationship long term by their definition? A year? 6 months?
"Man honesty is misogyny." - Patrice O'Neal
“Quor relazione?”
Seriously, how do they prove a long term relationship when you live separately?I bet it would be pretty tough for a guy to prove his ex-wife is in a LTR.
Maybe he can sneak pictures of the new chump looking sad and defeated.
If you give money to woman, that’s a major sign that she’s eligible to lifetime support from you
Exactly. Which is why you don’t give money to women.
Giving them s~~~ is counterproductive anyways. Women value men for what they want from them, not what they got from them.
Italian women are going to be paying for a lot of their own meals going forward.
“Assegni separati, per favore.”
And that is not our problem.
“Quor relazione?”
Seriously, how do they prove a long term relationship when you live separately?I bet it would be pretty tough for a guy to prove his ex-wife is in a LTR.
Maybe he can sneak pictures of the new chump looking sad and defeated.
It’s pretty easy: if she regularly take money from a man, then it’s a LTR. In example my ex wife is doing it with a man, acoukd demonstrate she’s in a LTR by simply checking her bank accounts and bills, but it would be useless since I give support for children, not for her too, so there’s no alimonies to withhold.
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If you give money to woman, that’s a major sign that she’s eligible to lifetime support from you
Exactly. Which is why you don’t give money to women.
Giving them s~~~ is counterproductive anyways. Women value men for what they want from them, not what they got from them.
Italian women are going to be paying for a lot of their own meals going forward.
“Assegni separati, per favore.”
And that is not our problem.
Be careful, in the long run they could even slightly change the game by actually equally sharing expenses: If there’s a shared bank account and both persons are equally contributing to it, that makes her eligible to access to your OTHER bank account. So if you have more money than her, you’re still f~~~ed.
Example:
Bank account 1, shared: both man and woman use it and contribute to it, totally equal, no parasitism here. It’s a bank account for bills and little expenses, always under 5k.
Bank account 2: his personal account, 20 times larger, used for investments.
She have no other bank account.
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What would make a relationship long term by their definition? A year? 6 months?
The actual term they use is “meaningful relationship”, “meaningful” meaning that there’s a shared bank account, you pay some of her bills / she pays some of your bills.
She can actually f~~~ you by paying YOUR bills and getting nothing from you: indeed that gives her access to all your money, that will be the typical case when they’ll upgrade to a smarter game.
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If there’s a shared bank account
You keep going on about shared bank accounts, but who the f~~~ actually does that?
While I don’t live in Australia or Canada, it’s my understanding that these two countries also have this variations of this law as well. In Australia they have what they call a “defacto relationship” that courts recognize a man and woman are in after simply “presenting themselves in public” for a period of time even though they may not have ever lived together. Canadian courts have something similar but depends on the the province and whether or not they had a kid together. Good night what a totally messed up world we live in; how’d it ever get to this point? If there are any Canadian or Aussie MGTOWs here please correct me if I’m in error or elaborate more.
"Shot through the heart, and you're to blame, You give love a bad name, I play my part and you play your game, You give love a bad name."--Bon Jovi
If there’s a shared bank account
You keep going on about shared bank accounts, but who the f~~~ actually does that?
I have not even an hint, I didn’t share the bank account nor even when I was married, but it seems it’s a quite common practice.
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