it was so hard today, then God said He still loves me

[AsceticmonkParticipant 846]

it was so hard today, then God said He still loves me.

the ache. that dull ache.

the emptiness. its mostly my fault.

mostly my fault.

Ever since i became a young adult, when my emotions sank into the really sad, really painful place.

Then God was there. i felt love.

the woman will never be able to offer, no matter how well she does or no matter how much she succeeds in relationship, what i learned is the woman can only offer so much of what a man wants.

But the longing for a deeper, wider, farer, more expansive and volumous love can only be found in one place.

i happened to experience it years ago, it happened again today.

He said to me if He had to die on the cross all over again, just for me, that He would do it.

Then i broke, and i cried, and i begged God to save me. i begged Him to not give up on me, i’m so evil and so sinful and so wicked.

i don’t know how i could ever get to heaven. why would God want me? after all the times i disobeyed Him, all the times i ignored Him, all the times i was mean to Him and did wicked things.

i heard again today, what i’ve been hearing lately:

don’t give up.

if God wants me, He can have me.

i don’t want to be mad at the woman anymore for how she failed me. i’ve accepted she can’t give what only can be found in God.

God forgive you and save you men going their own way.

Please give God a chance MGTOWs.

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22534]

FFS. If you think men here bybeing mgtow dont believe in god, you do not understand mgtow.

GOD is mgtow. Men being mgtow is biblical.

God changes for no one. He forgives, but there’s only one way. Its free and anyone can receive it, but no other way works, no matter what you do or how nice you are or how sorry you are. He doesnt change or change His rules for anyone.

Men are warned to avoid certain women with negative attributes all over the bible.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[AutoliteParticipant]

Asceticmonk wrote:

Please give God a chance MGTOWs.

Which one? I could use a little help here. My past experience indicates that I really suck at picking the right god…

[AwakenedParticipant 35202]

Is it just me, or do oh so many religious people appear to live such miserable lives?

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[Branched offParticipant 10933]

The god who is a big cuck and just forgives everyone who is sincerely sorry is a nice story for those who feel they are always wrong and need forgiveness. I think that is why many devout people are so unhappy inside. They believe they are bad inside and want something good to be their moral compass and salvation.

I personally think the gods care for our doings no more than we care for the doings of the wild animals. When vixen goes off round the dog foxes, mating with as many as possible, hoping they will all feed her cubs, I don’t decide to punish her or reward her. She is a fox. If I am hunting foxes I will shoot her, if I am not I will watch her standing in the open under the silver moonlight crying for a mate and see it as a thing of her nature and be a little humbled by the power of the forces that drive her, no more. I do not shoot slut vixens or forgive them if they repent or spare less slutty ones. So they gods, if they turn their eyes to us will watch the doings of men and women.

So the wise MGHOW will look on women and men. They are just creatures doing their best and if you see that you see they have their different limitations and drivers and that equality is just a nonsense. They are just hairless monkeys playing out their lives in a very overpopulated monkey cage driven by natures that would perform better if they were free in the jungle. There is no mystery here, no grand design.

If you were a god, would you be interested in forgiving the minute doings of men and if you judge and forgive men then surly you must judge the rabbits and the mice and the frogs and the fishes for they all make decisions of their own free will to the best of their intellectual ability. Surely you would be one messed up god when you could be doing better stuff?

A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own

[Daryll55Participant 2950]

I believe in God.
4 out of 5 ppl on this planet believe there is some kind of “God”
Aside from the things I can’t logically explain that have happened in my own life;(and I have exhaustively tried to),I believe that things just Don’t happen.

Professional surgeons who see terminal patients healed when science and surgery could not are dumbfounded. Some who do not believe there is a God,, become believers.

Throughout the Nuclear age there has not been 1 accidental Nuclear explosion since WW2(not accidental). 70000+ nukes and man’s tenendcy to screw anything up,yet it never happens.
Nukes have no less than 6 fail-safes to prevent accidental detonation,yet the likelyhood of those working in a violent environment(like a crash are slim)
Think of the “Damascus Incident,” or the time a B-52 had to crash land in the sea, yet kept its nuclear payload and crashed on land, to have all but the last fail-safe to trigger.

To think that despite there being over 7 Billion people on this planet yet there has been only 1 crazy enough to actually believe in world conquest in the last century.

Anyone can refute this: I just find the odds so minimal that it is hard to calculate short of divinity.

Marry again, Hell NO ! ( Even JESUS was hung on a cross just once)

[AutoliteParticipant]

Daryll55 wrote:

Anyone can refute this: I just find the odds so minimal that it is hard to calculate short of divinity.

If you ever sincerely want to know the truth, there are rational explanations for why people believe in gods that aren’t real. There are psychological reasons why you think the way that you do…

[Daryll55Participant 2950]

Autolite wrote:

Daryll55 wrote:

Anyone can refute this: I just find the odds so minimal that it is hard to calculate short of divinity.

If you ever sincerely want to know the truth, there are rational explanations for why people believe in gods that aren’t real. There are psychological reasons why you think the way that you do…

I figured I would get a response from someone:
and I respect your right to your opinion.

In response to you toward my quote:
please re-read mine… I was a devout no-believer. I have had divine intervention; just as Saul(converted to Paul) has had in the bible.
If you do not believe; that is YOUR decision; not mine nor that of God.
God gives man(Mankind) free will, which includes the will to choose.
I don’t need YOU(or anyone else for that matter) to tell me the “Truth.”
The prescence of A GOD goes beyond religion
Your spiritual self judgement is your destiny.

No, I am NOT a Bible thumper. You won’t see me typing scripture here. I respect others rights not to believe as much as I respect other rights to believe.

Marry again, Hell NO ! ( Even JESUS was hung on a cross just once)

[AutoliteParticipant]

Daryll55 wrote:

I don’t need YOU(or anyone else for that matter) to tell me the “Truth.”

I see this forum as a conduit for getting out the truth on various issues. As a participant on this forum, I spew the truth as sort of a ‘due diligence’ kinda thing and nothing more. With you being a Theist, I fully expect you to reject the truth. I just hope that you can try and understand my sense of obligation…

[TwistParticipant]

I love going to church. The air. The historical liturgy. The basic road map that has paved the way for so many.

Church doesn’t own me. It is there for me. A mirror to make myself better.

And to pray for God’s divine judgement to rain down upon the houses of the evil.

Otherwise I’d have to do it and go off to the pokey…

Peace

[AwakenedParticipant 35202]

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[AutoliteParticipant]

There is a plethora of online material that debunks religion. This video by Richard Carrier is one of the best that I’ve seen. There’s no debating. There’s no discussion. Carrier just lays out the historical facts that proves all religions and beliefs in gods is made made. This is irrefutable…

[Daryll55Participant 2950]

Autolite wrote:

There is a plethora of online material that debunks religion. This video by Richard Carrier is one of the best that I’ve seen. There’s no debating. There’s no discussion. Carrier just lays out the historical facts that proves all religions and beliefs in gods is made made. This is irrefutable…
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Sorry I got about 20 mins into Richards video proclamation and found 3 things wrong with HIS beliefs. There was no point in my watching more.

Richard Carrier- Born 1969 with a degree in History and a doctorate in Ancient history from COLUMBIA University suddenly got it all “right” for the world ??
Heck in that case….. HE should be my Ddiety.

Seriously I do respect your right to believe what you do but there are grave misunderstandings that would take me hours of typing to explain.
I will say this again…RELIGION is MAN-MADE Y can agree with Carrier on that.
However he is a humanist and rejects the notion of a diety. I disagree with that. No matter how smart we think we are;we are also incredibly stupid.

I’m toast on this issue as I am not here to “Convert” people, rather I am here to warn young men of the perils of marriage in order not to make a hasty decision.

peace.

Marry again, Hell NO ! ( Even JESUS was hung on a cross just once)

[HermitParticipant]

Autolite wrote:

Daryll55 wrote:

I don’t need YOU(or anyone else for that matter) to tell me the “Truth.”

I see this forum as a conduit for getting out the truth on various issues. As a participant on this forum, I spew the truth as sort of a ‘due diligence’ kinda thing and nothing more. With you being a Theist, I fully expect you to reject the truth. I just hope that you can try and understand my sense of obligation…

Your truth and my truth are different things. LOL

The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.

[AutoliteParticipant]

@hermit

Our differences seem to be what we perceive to be subjective or objective realities.

If I were to claim that Leprechauns don’t actually exist, would you say that is a subjective or an objective reality???

[HermitParticipant]

Autolite wrote:

@hermit
Our differences seem to be what we perceive to be subjective or objective realities.
If I were to claim that Leprechauns don’t actually exist, would you say that is a subjective or an objective reality???

There’s a big difference between little green guys with a pot of gold and The Creator of the Universe. You and I have been down this road, my friend and it was a long one, not that I didn’t enjoy our talk.

I’m not trying to be rude by not answering your question. I just don’t see what can be gained from further discussion. You know my beliefs in God are steadfast. I’ve seen too much. I’ve experienced too much. Even though my family never went to church, I’ve always been a believer in God even before those life experiences.

I’m not one of those religious people who try to tell everyone else what they should and shouldn’t believe and what they should and shouldn’t do. I am not perfect and without sin. I am a spiritual person and my spiritual beliefs run deep and I try to keep myself right with what I believe.

The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.

[AutoliteParticipant]

Hermit wrote:

There’s a big difference between little green guys with a pot of gold and The Creator of the Universe.

For the Atheist, the chances of either existing is the same. The nonexistence of both is an objective reality for me.

I just don’t see what can be gained from further discussion.

Yeah, I’m okay with that. I was just trying to get more of handle on how the Theist thinks…

[HermitParticipant]

Autolite wrote:

Hermit wrote:

There’s a big difference between little green guys with a pot of gold and The Creator of the Universe.

For the Atheist, the chances of either existing is the same. The nonexistence of both is an objective reality for me.

I just don’t see what can be gained from further discussion.

Yeah, I’m okay with that. I was just trying to get more of handle on how the Theist thinks…

Don’t you remember that long discussion we had? After all those posts and pages, you should know how I think. You may never understand it, no more than I could understand your paradigm.

I’m just glad we could discuss it like adults instead of like women.

The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.

[AutoliteParticipant]

Hermit wrote:

Don’t you remember that long discussion we had? After all those posts and pages, you should know how I think. You may never understand it, no more than I could understand your paradigm.

Yeah, I do remember our discussion and you are most certainly correct. I will never understand why Theists think the way that they do…

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