It was Clinton, not Trump who Separated Children from Illegals

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

“In March of 1993, The United States Supreme Court issued a ruling in Reno v Flores. (Yes, “That” Reno. Janet Reno, Bill Clinton’s first Attorney General who ordered that young Elian Gonzalez be torn from his family’s arms while hiding in a Miami closet. You might remember the iconic photograph.)

The Court in Flores decided that minors could not be incarcerated with the adults accompanying them across the United States border illegally. The decision was the result of a long dispute in how to best care for these children while the adults were detained for criminal proceedings.

You see, when aliens cross the border illegally, they are incarcerated until their criminal case is decided. The understandable argument at the time was “why should children be incarcerated while their parents are in jail?” It seemed a fundamental violation of international human rights. Makes sense, right?

As a result, The Flores case drew a line in the sand. Children could not be incarcerated with their parents or accompanying adult while being held for illegal immigration violations. And a subsequent 1997 agreement stipulated that children must be placed in a safer environment where they could enjoy certain privileges, including education, a clean, safe environment and other normal life cycle amenities that incarcerated individuals do not enjoy.

It was considered a “victory” for human rights. By separating adult and child, we protected the children, reducing any harm done to them for their parent’s or accompanying adult’s decisions.

A lot has happened since then. However; bottom line, these juvenile shelters have been operating in accordance with the law, and overseen by the Department of Health and Human Services to protect those children from the hazards of parental incarceration since 1997.

So, since Donald Trump was running his real estate empire, selling wine and casinos in 1993, we are left to determine just how he managed to orchestrate this cruel “separation of immigrant parent and child” 25 years BEFORE he was President of the United States. The obvious answer is, he didn’t. He had nothing to do with establishing this United States immigration policy. Today, he simply enforces it.

This one story illustrates how important it is for us to do our research regarding today’s headlines. The Corporate Media either refuses to do the research, is incapable of doing the research or has done the research and decided to lie to you about its findings. Either way, this would make the Corporate Media lazy, incompetent or just plain deceptive. Liars, if you will.”

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[Anonymous 7]

All of this ‘separating families’ crap is just political theater.
What is really happening is it is drowning out the noise the OIG report should be making.

[JustAnotherGuyParticipant]

That reads like something Shapiro would write. Where’s the source?

Cupcakes are Cold. MGTOW is Absolute Zero.
“Let us wait a little; when your enemy is executing a false movement, never interrupt him” –Napoleon Bonaparte, 1805

[MarketWatcherParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

IG report should be making.

Bingo.

Also, no one give a crap when a man is separated from his children due to the “system”.

[Anonymous 6]

Anonymous wrote:

All of this ‘separating families’ crap is just political theater.
What is really happening is it is drowning out the noise the OIG report should be making.

Yep. Black men have a high incarceration rate, where’s the outrage? Women brake up families in divorce court by an overwhelming margin, where’s the outrage? Those illegal alien scumbags WILLINGLY take the risk of having their families separated, the outrage! BTW this crap was happening under Obama too, where was the outrage?

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22521]

Anonymous wrote:

All of this ‘separating families’ crap is just political theater.
What is really happening is it is drowning out the noise the OIG report should be making.

Exactly. But, I wonder what President Trump will do. I doubt the democrats will like what he does do.

Anonymous wrote:

Yep. Black men have a high incarceration rate, where’s the outrage?

Hillary is partly behind that. Look up her “super-predator” quotes.

[Anonymous 7]

Faust For Science wrote:

Exactly. But, I wonder what President Trump will do. I doubt the democrats will like what he does do.

They won’t and I may not either.

Here is the thing though underneath all the bluster I believe Trump is a man of compassion. He might fall for this s~~~.

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

The courts have been separating children from families for decades. Do it to a citizen, no outcry; do it to an illegal and libs start screaming.

JustAnotherGuy wrote:

Where’s the source?

Reno vs Flores is well documented. Point is Trump didn’t make the policy like the libs would like you to believe.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[JustAnotherGuyParticipant]

FrostByte wrote:

Reno vs Flores is well documented. Point is Trump didn’t make the policy like the libs would like you to believe.

I meant specifically the language of what you quoted in the first post. It reads like something Ben Shapiro would write. I was wondering where the quoted excerpt came from.

Cupcakes are Cold. MGTOW is Absolute Zero.
“Let us wait a little; when your enemy is executing a false movement, never interrupt him” –Napoleon Bonaparte, 1805

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

JustAnotherGuy wrote:

FrostByte wrote:

Reno vs Flores is well documented. Point is Trump didn’t make the policy like the libs would like you to believe.

I meant specifically the language of what you quoted in the first post. It reads like something Ben Shapiro would write. I was wondering where the quoted excerpt came from.

I don’t have it. You are probably correct. It was sent to me by a friend.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[Anonymous 12]

What I’m thinking is what type of parent takes their child illegally to another country in the first place?

Where is the responsibilty of the parent?

[Knarley BobParticipant 2219]

It’s all smoke to cover the “Deep State’s” crap.

OATHKEEPERS, not on our watch. MOLON LABE

[FunInTheSunParticipant 8283]

Anonymous wrote:

What I’m thinking is what type of parent takes their child illegally to another country in the first place?

Where is the responsibility of the parent?

Amen! And some of these kids, who live in Mexico and Central America, run away from their parents. The American taxpayers shouldn’t have to pay for s~~~ty governments and s~~~ty parents. People around the world need to put some effort into making their situation better instead of just migrating to other countries without a visa.

There isn’t enough tax revenue to take care of American citizens! The U.S. government needs 3.5 trillion dollars a year just for operational expenses. Where the hell do these open border advocates think we’re going to get the money to take care of millions of illegal aliens and their children? And who’s going to hire all these migrants once they cross the border or arrive here by ship? We don’t have unlimited jobs and welfare here, and if we can’t afford to clean up our crumbling, gang-infested cities, and create safe, prosperous communities for our own American children, how are we supposed to solve the problems random foreigners are down on their luck and continue to have babies in spite of the environmental/financial crisis they’re in?!

"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)

[HitmanParticipant]

[Anonymous 12]

FunInTheSun wrote:

Morlock wrote:

What I’m thinking is what type of parent takes their child illegally to another country in the first place?

Where is the responsibility of the parent?

Amen! And some of these kids, who live in Mexico and Central America, run away from their parents. The American taxpayers shouldn’t have to pay for s~~~ty governments and s~~~ty parents. People around the world need to put some effort into making their situation better instead of just migrating to other countries without a visa.

There isn’t enough tax revenue to take care of American citizens! The U.S. government needs 3.5 trillion dollars a year just for operational expenses. Where the hell do these open border advocates think we’re going to get the money to take care of millions of illegal aliens and their children? And who’s going to hire all these migrants once they cross the border or arrive here by ship? We don’t have unlimited jobs and welfare here, and if we can’t afford to clean up our crumbling, gang-infested cities, and create safe, prosperous communities for our own American children, how are we supposed to solve the problems random foreigners are down on their luck and continue to have babies in spite of the environmental/financial crisis they’re in?!

I feel that way too. Like all the Arab migrants. Why are all those young men abandoning their nations? Shouldn’t they stay and try and rebuild it into something worthy?

Yeah, I know why not.

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

Anonymous wrote:

What I’m thinking is what type of parent takes their child illegally to another country in the first place?

When this bill was introduced in 1993 and one of the major issues they were addressing was these kids were not with any parents. That is why it was pushed through for humanitarian reasons. The majority of the kids were traveling alone in the hands of whomever was paid to move them across the border. The ‘separated from families’ argument makes huge (mostly wrong) assumptions about the nature of the problem. Coming from libtards my guess is they are intentionally misleading the public to create chaos. I support Trump, but this is a huge fail unless the intention is to make the problem worse.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

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