It Took A While But it Finally Arrived

[Quiet ThomParticipant 116]

Hello Brothers. I’ve been in a 5 year relationship with my girlfriend. For the most part, it’s been pretty good. I started the relationship as a somewhat white knight and partial mangina. I helped her maintain her property and made improvements to her property…she paid for all materials and I did all the work. But, I didn’t mind. We enjoyed each other intellectually, sexually, and spiritually and she truly appreciated all that I did for her.. Then, I noticed that all the work I did for her left me with little time to maintain my property and no time to relax and do things I enjoyed. As fortune would have it, at the same time I figured this out, I discovered MGTOW. The fog lifted and I was hell bent on taking control of my life. I slowly weaned myself from doing work at her house in a gradual way to minimize any conflict. Well, she sure didn’t like that. Too bad. I looked at it this way……what was she doing that was remotely equal to what I was doing for her? Not a f~~~ing thing. There is nothing I need her to do for me that I can’t do for myself. As much as I like/love her, she is virtually unnecessary.. Rant completed. Last night, we ate some take out pizza at her house. I sat down in a comfortable recliner and dozed off. I really was tired because I had worked a 10 hour day starting at 5AM. She woke me to go to bed. I stripped down, climbed in, and started getting amorous. She pushed me away….a bit rude, I thought. This p~~~ed me off. I got dressed, said goodbye, and went home. She asked me why I was leaving and I said I sleep better in my own bed and I’d probably snore and keep her awake. I think I dented her fragile woman ego. She called me this morning and s~~~ tested me severely. I was calm and non emotional and I think this pushed her over the edge. She hung up on me and that was very unlike her. I think she expected me to call her back. I didn’t. I suspect she will call me tomorrow morning because we have tickets to see the play “A Christmas Carol” tomorrow afternoon, But, I think I’m going to ask my daughter or my grandson to go instead of her. I don’t want to reward my girlfriend’s childish behaviour by taking her to a play and then out to a nice restaurant. This action may educate her or it may end us. I will confess that I’m quite alright with ending our relationship and for some reason, it bothers me that it doesn’t bother me. Possibly, I’ve made peace with knowing that, for the most part, women need men to make their lives more comfortable and that’s not a role I’m willing to play anymore.

[Anonymous 5]

Quiet Thom wrote:

it bothers me that it doesn’t bother me

This is something I used to think about a bit before The Red Pills.
I couldn’t quite come to terms why I was so content to be single.
I thought I may have some mild disorder or phobia or something like that. Perhaps I was damaged goods etc.
Still, I had no intention of ever allowing a woman to live in my house again, furthermore, regardless of conventional wisdom, I was happy to not even be in a relationship..

Now I thank f~~~ I’m not burdened with an exploitative partner.
Men’s brains become imprinted with the NAWALT stage and they get glimpses of that here and there throughout the relationship which keeps the dream going.
We just don’t see the day to day reality of relationships as they are. We get to the point where “The Peace” is a touchdown and we forget all about our initial premise for a relationship.
AS men, we try and try and try “To Fix” it to where it once was. Men trap themselves with this innate behavior
Once the NAWALT stage is over, it’s over.

[MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To GiveParticipant 6635]

Just use her for pump and go,no more favors unless its reciprocated to a level thats fair for YOU.

Never lose sight of what brought you here.

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

Welcome.

I recommend you copy womenzz ways.

Make it all about you.

You are the most important. You are better. You need more. You want more. You get more ….. while at the same time do as little as possible for others.

She won’t like that but remember who this is about

YOU

[RoyDalParticipant]

Welcome! It sounds like you are wising up to women’s ways. This may mean she will accept you on your terms, or you have to do without. Either way, it is better to be knowledgeable, wise, and independent, as opposed to ignorant and obedient.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[BigvernParticipant 1983]

Welcome Thom, and keep up the way YOU want to live YOUR life – NO wimmin needed to be happy.

Other lurkers here, let’s hear from you all soon, 11000 + members are just the tip of the iceberg!!

"What made you think, there'd be a livin' in sheep?, Eat, Work, Eat Work and Sleep" - Mark Knopfler.

[Truthseeker82Participant 6406]

Get what can from her – but in NO WAY compromise your emotional and financial freedom. Remember – if she wanted to (and I don’t mean this in an offensive manner – we are brothers here) – she would dump your ass in the time it takes for her to log onto her smartphone. You must play with the same attitude. The more you show her you don’t give a s~~~ – the more her female radar will detect that she is NOT the center of your f~~~ing universe – rather YOU are. I will never forget many years ago some typical thirty something c~~~ with her own house, dog, career, decent looks quickly friend zoned me. We seemed to connect on a lot of things – so I was a bit surprised. I am 6’2″, in great physical shape, work out, good job, educated, lived near her. But I made the mistake of paying TOO much attention to her. So she shot back to me: “We like to know you guys have something else going on” C~~~ speak for “I want you to worship the ground I walk on – but I am going to s~~~ test you first and play games, make you jump through my hoops – before you get a chance at my golden pussy and t~~~. Never heard from her again and got depressed at the rejection. This was blue pill me circa 1999. Red pill me 2015 says: “Whoo hoo!! I win – you loose!

[Quiet ThomParticipant 116]

Thank you, my Brothers, for the positive feedback and guidance. Being a widower, I’ve had time to evaluate my past life being a husband. I can honestly say that I wasn’t happy at all during most of my marriage because I saw and experienced the unfairness and inequity that was part and parcel of being a married man. But, I was committed to my sexless, s~~~ty marriage, none the less. Ignorance is bliss, I suppose. I, stupidly, hunkered down and trudged on. I used my work as sanctuary. There I could be my genuine self and I was well liked, respected, and valued. Work kept me sane while I was married. After my wife passed, I felt empty for a while but working coupled with my positive, adventurous attitude helped remedy that. I got a motorcycle…this was a huge change for me and I’ve never regretted it. I took giant leaps out of my comfort zone that showed me that I was only limited by the constraints that I put on myself. Then, I started dating. Jesus, what a f~~~ing zoo! I always knew there was something out of wack in male/female relationships. My heightened awareness of what is actually going on (due largely to my MGTOW education), made me very conscious of the predatory and self centered nature of women. My experience has been that they only want a man for his stuff, his skills, or how the man could enhance or simplify her life. Simply put, it’s all about what you can do for her….not what can you for each other as partners. They shamelessly draw men in using whatever weapon they have in their arsenal…..sex, beauty, sweetness, and on and on. When they think they have you bound by love, the mind f~~~ing begins and they focus on controlling you by any means necessary. It’s tragic, really. Women can cause you to go instantly from being happily in love to dancing with a f~~~ing angry cobra, but only if you allow it. Make no mistake, my Brothers, women are master manipulators and they’ll mind f~~~ you using illogical emotion as a poison to confuse you into thinking that you’re the f~~~ed up one and that they are the one being wronged. Sorry ladies, I know what you are. And, happily, I am of an age and mentality where sex, as a weapon, has no effect on me. That bullet is no longer in the chamber. She hasn’t contacted me yet, but it’s early. If we continue, I am going to make her pay for being an asshole. My life….my terms.

[MattNYCParticipant 2329]

Quiet Thom wrote:

it’s all about what you can do for her

Ding ding ding! We have a winner!

I can’t believe how delusional i was for so many years, thinking relations~~~s were supposed to be equitable, mutually-supportive, all that.

If you’re in a relationship (business, physical, marriage, whatever) where A gives B way more than B gives A, there’s a word for that: A S~~~TY DEAL! Ditch the anchor & watch your ship ride lighter in the water.

[Quiet ThomParticipant 116]

Didn’t see her or call her all day Saturday. I called my grandson and asked if he wanted to hang out with me on Sunday, go to the play, and then have a nice sit down meal at a neat pub that was within easy walking distance from the theater. He was happy to come. The play began at 2 and there was a ComicCon convention in town so I picked up my grandson early to ensure that we could get a decent parking space and do a little exploring. She called me at around 11:30…..I guess she wanted to make nice in time to go to the play. I swear, first sentence out of her mouth was about how I never call to tell her that I want to talk things out. My response was that I was ready to talk things out until she hung up on me. That meant that she didn’t want to talk. That meant that the the calling back part was on her. She said that she hung up because she was starting to cry (Cough!!! Horses~~~!!! Cough). I was met with stunned silence when I told her that the reason she hung up doesn’t matter, but the fact she hung up mattered. I then told her that, because she chose not to call me back, I didn’t know what was going on so I invited my grandson to go to the play. I cut the conversation short and told her I’d call her later. And, I did call her back in the early evening. I told her that I was tired and didn’t feel like discussing anything, wished her a pleasant evening, and said goodnight. Today, she called me on the way home from work and wanted to know when we could get together to talk. F~~~ I hate that s~~~!!! Having a “talk” never, ever bodes well for a man. I told her I’d let her know when but tonight was out. I will meet with her and I will talk with her, but I don’t think she’s going to like the conversation very much. I am very close to walking away. As women go, she doesn’t suck as much as the rest (rave review, eh?) and, for whatever reason, she is usually a stable and happy person. BUT, I absolutely refuse to be someone or something that I am not to make her life easier. You don’t like that I sometimes fall asleep early if I’m exhausted? Okay….WTF do you want me to do about it? I think I have a solution…I can stay home. You don’t like that I mourned my wife on the anniversary of her death, that I was quiet in reflection, and that I had drank (drunk?) 3 glasses of wine? Ummm…Kindly go f~~~ yourself you self righteous, self centered c~~~.
So Gents, as you may discern, I’m still a little f~~~in’ miffed. I will enter the arena known as “we have to talk” without fear or concern of my opponent’s emotional well being. I will not hold back. I will not take prisoners. And, most importantly, I will not give a f~~~.

Thanks for listening, my Brothers.

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