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Playing the Victim Card again right from the get go. See how that works?
Why the shaming language?
Playing the victim card?
YOU are the one saying that the Palestinians are the victims. The Europeans are the victims. You are saying the same s~~~ my bosses say about dealing with Israelis. My bosses believe they are the victim. My words must be going over your head. I have no horse in this race. You are emotionally tied to this race track.
When I am in Israel, I encounter Palestinians and Israelis. They live side by side and work together and dine together. The reality is that everyone in Israel is an immigrant.
I have to tell you that when you travel around Israel it is amazing. I know you don’t give a s~~~. Too bad.
They create paradise out of a desert. Over 20 years I have watched as they transformed the desert mile by mile into a rain forest. As you leave Tel-Aviv in any direction you see burms being bull dozed around sand dunes and trees being planted.
In contrast, when you stand at any border fence looking into a Muslim country all you see is sand.
It is too bad that they are not pleasant enough for you. The least they could do is be what you want and die.
Peace brothers
Anonymous14Why the shaming language?
Playing the victim card?
Pointing out that you lead with Jews being the victim during the Holocaust is not shaming, it is pointing something out.
We get the point already, If Jews played by the rules they would not be alive, your words, not mine. So you give a people a pass on being humane and a pass on playing by the rules because of xyz (victimhood), where as I don’t. You however, like so many others before, refuse to address the point that pre-Zionism the three Abrahamic religions were getting along pretty well for quite some time in the Holy Land, and instead you justify what is/has been going on post WWII because of Jewish Victimhood. You, like all others who support a Zionist Israel justify modern injustice based on past injustice. You also refuse to identity who the victims are TODAY, never will you address the eternal land theft and body count over the years. You also, I am sure, will never address the Jewish identity problem, as most “Jews” today are descendants of 7th century Khazars who adopted the religion, and have zero relation to Jews in the Holy Land in the days of Christ. Hence much of the anger over a land being taken under what is in essence based on a false identity. Shlomo Sand’s book The Invention of the Jewish People will help clear it all up for you, but I am 100% sure you won’t be reading it.
You talked about Texas and Mexico, tell me this; if the Irish were to adopt the American Indian Identity, then at some point hundreds of years in the future they took America by force, using their Indian Identity as justification for it, would it be right? Because that is Israel of today, same s~~~, but crazy as it is, it actually happened.
Gamal Abdel Nasser, second president of Egypt before the 6 day war stated on television, “you (the Jews) will never be able to live here in peace, because you left here black but came back white”
The bible itself describes Jesus as having skin like copper and hair like wool. Sounds more Ethiopian to me than White European as most Jews of today are.
Now, if the Jews had shared the land as they had been before, none of this would have happened, but because of theft via force and the eternal oppression and theft and diversion of Palestinian’s right to self determination (statehood, U.S. keeps blocking the bid) we are in this mess, forever apparently. It almost feels like the plan is for eternal bulls~~~ at this point.
I have principals, you have bias. I have zero expectations of you examining anything I have said. By your same logic one can justify what the Germans did to the Jews by saying they were a threat to German people, I do not accept this. Wrong is wrong, past wrong does not justify current wrong.
And I don’t really care what they have created over there with my money. Gaddafi did great things for Libya as well, with money from his own country, not mine.
Look, I am done with this thread, nobody really even addressed what I put forth in my first two posts, I only got attacks. I will not be back unless it is to respond to something pertaining to one of my first two posts.
Anonymous42If Joe ever goes professional boxing MY MONEY’S ON HIM!
Anonymous14If Joe ever goes professional boxing MY MONEY’S ON HIM!
If it wasn’t for guys like you, Keymaster, Hitman, Blade, and even Pete who welcomed me when I came back and even defended my right to have my say at least once that I can remember, I would have not become the boxer I am today.
And now time for some bong hits and SpongeBob Squarepants cartoons…
THX, I welcome you brother. I admire you. Your passion is amazing.
I understand your thoughts on theft by force. And, the resulting passionate indignation.
The reality is that every piece of soil in this realm has been taken by force and blood flowed.
Nothing good happens when an enemy attacks your village. There is no compassionate death.
As far as addressing historical xyz, he who has the power and force wins.
The USA is the only country that has defeated an enemy and gave the country back. Morons. Only, to fight them again.
This debate is similar to the one I had with Mexican coworkers, while moving our USA factory to Mexico. They showed me their history books that say that Texas, New Mexico and Arizona are still part of Mexico territory. They say that Santa Anna was impeached by the Mexican Congress and didn’t have the authority etc. They went on and on about how unjust the USA was. What pieces of s~~~ we are. History proves them right, they said.
Like your indignation argument, I agreed with them. I told them that they were right. The USA should of attacked Mexico and conquered it to the Panama canal. Lucky for them the northern states did not want the imbalance of power it would cause to have them in our democratic system.
Meanwhile, I concentrated on moving our work to that s~~~ hole. When I came back home, it was to go to a previous coworkers funeral. He and 24 others committed suicide. Morons.
When the enemy destroys your village, bad s~~~ happens.
No country is exempt from being an asshole is my point. There is nothing to address. The Israelis are being held back. Otherwise, the other country’s would be conquered. They are forced by the USA to play nice.
This debate also aligns with the feminist manifesto. They are indignant about how unjust they have been treated. It is the same false narrative.
The reality is that they have been treated with kid gloves. They live in a delusional world of what is fair and just. There is no such thing as equality and justice.
If you cannot grasp this realty it is okay with me. I’m in the grand stands with a NFG. There goes Madonna with a pink pussy hat brigade. She is yelling at some men, kill, kill, kill…
Peace brothers
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Anonymous14This debate also aligns with the feminist manifesto. They are indignant about how unjust they have been treated. It is the same false narrative.
The reality is that they have been treated with kid gloves. They live in a delusional world of what is fair and just. There is no such thing as equality and justice.
Um, this debate aligns with feminist manifesto just as much in the exact opposite direction as you claim, as it is Israel’s eternal cries of victimhood that are used to justify their actions, just like Third Wave Feminism, which by the way likely has it’s origins in Israel and blossoming in Leftist Media and the likes of Steinem.
I am going to agree that we are holding back Israel as far as Palestinians are concerned, but we do their bidding in other countries, and just as I do with Women and the State, I seek my Sovereignty and therefore my country’s Sovereignty from foreign entanglements that do nothing for me or my country but cost us money, and actually put us in more danger. The argument that there has always been and therefore will always be war will soon be a thing of the past one way or another because if it is not there will be no future to host such discussions in as the world is becoming increasingly Nuclearized. The U.S. did not want Israel to get nukes, somehow that happened, and others will continue to succeed as well on this front. It won’t be too long now until dominate at will changes to be friends with everyone or die.
In fact, there is a theory as to why no intelligent life has ever reached us. Existing in the same paradigm as we do, survival of the fittest, they have all exerted their resources in dominating one another, to their collective demise, never getting off the rocks in which they have now destroyed.
Really baked now, back to SpongeBob, peace out Dark.
Shalom
As far as addressing historical xyz, he who has the power and force wins.
It’s hard to be that kind of person. But it does get easier everyday. The world really is might = right.
Nations use whatever tools at their arsenal to get the court of public opinion (the masses ) to give them support to keep any movement going.
In a lot of ways, this is so similar to what happened in our lives and why we went to MGTOW.
I hate to think that this is true, but the more I realize this, the more I understand that being moral is such an indefinable word when using it to dictate your actions.
If you are a group of people protecting territory, or your own family, or life. The only thing that is yours is your body. What it experiences is up to you.
It’s a cold hard dark reality.
Is doing the right thing the thing that makes you weak?
We see all to often the natural of people. We saw what happened to H&M. That was nuts.
It also shines a bright light to why so many companies are by default so SJW. The Masses have not changed. And if you cater or profit from them, you need to pander to them, and keep your organization departmentalized.
It makes a person wonder if it was not for the easy life, I don’t think there would be much peace. But then again, this does not seem to work either. I think the only thing to peace, and keeping your word is fear. FEAR of FORCE.
Sums up other places where there is little fear of losing anything. It makes you realize that here in the US and in the rest of the “western” world or highly connected and developed nations, there is a large benefit to keeping something like the welfare state going.
It sort of makes it out to being a necessary evil.
It actually is funny.. Some people just want to f~~~ eat and enjoy life. Do some cool things to pass the time and enjoy some of the pictures in life.
And for that Pilot, good for him. He is doing what he knows in his heart is the right thing. But people like that are needed for the balance. I’m glad he did what he thought was right.
I hope many of you do so to. But let’s face it. Its so much better to just take the easy way out. No one is going to remember you anyways.
You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home
If Joe ever goes professional boxing MY MONEY’S ON HIM!
If it wasn’t for guys like you, Keymaster, Hitman, Blade, and even Pete who welcomed me when I came back and even defended my right to have my say at least once that I can remember, I would have not become the boxer I am today.
And now time for some bong hits and SpongeBob Squarepants cartoons…
Love all you guys .
This sandpit fight didnt end that bad normally you got to whare those rommell sand glasses .
Israel shouldn’t be growing forests in the sandpit . Speeder bike endor s~~~ . What is kim jong heading there to the ewok looking c~~~ .
Israel can have our desert . Were going to give you guys WA but i have changed my mind .
GIVE TUSKENS BACK THERE SAND PIT .
Well do you guys know what this song is about ?
Peace out .
THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .
Anonymous1THX, thanks for being the voice of reason here. I see how your thread was derailed pretty quickly. Your arguments are always side stepped and never addressed.
I remember not too long ago there was a thread on dropping Nuclear Bombs on people. The same people attacking THX were advocating for “The Bomb.” Then they claim the Moral High Ground. Lol.
Anonymous42Well do you guys know what this song is about ?
Texas? Oklahoma? Cadillac? Pump jacks? Burger King?
Well do you guys know what this song is about ?
Texas? Oklahoma? Cadillac? Pump jacks? Burger King?
Ya got me .
But truly i never new what the song was about till i got older . Just use to think it sounded cool in the background back when i was young .
THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .
I have changed my opinions on certain issues in the world because i was wrong in some of my opinions .
No human on earth is perfect .
And above what i wrote i am shore joe nows i am joking around .
I keep forgetting to put humor in brackets .
THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .
Anonymous14Nations use whatever tools at their arsenal to get the court of public opinion (the masses ) to give them support to keep any movement going.
In a lot of ways, this is so similar to what happened in our lives and why we went to MGTOW.
Yep, a Libertarian MGTOW (me) is basically someone who applies the logic and realizes the benefits of Sovereignty full circle. Most argue a position without ever thinking about how it is more often the best decision not only for oneself, but for everyone, to not participate on any level in a Collectivist paradigm, hence the consistency of my arguments on both the micro and macro level.
THX, thanks for being the voice of reason here. I see how your thread was derailed pretty quickly. Your arguments are always side stepped and never addressed.
I remember not too long ago there was a thread on dropping Nuclear Bombs on people. The same people attacking THX were advocating for “The Bomb.” Then they claim the Moral High Ground. Lol.
Thanks for noticing, yes, my points are never addressed. There are some here who I have posed a singular question to for over two years now, it is never answered. I think maybe I should just keep posing it wherever it pertains and not answer questions anymore until I am given the same respect.
And isn’t it odd that the guy who calls for peace between men based on the idea of Sovereignty is attacked the most often on a men’s only site who’s foundations rest upon the idea of Sovereignty?
I have changed my opinions on certain issues in the world because i was wrong in some of my opinions .
No human on earth is perfect .
This is exactly what makes you a f~~~ing badass, for you did not hold onto your ego, and instead followed truth instead of a person, a religion, a man, a country, or even a selfish fight to maintain your own identity. Most men are about being right, don’t be like them, they are everywhere, and they are usually full of s~~~, great men however never stop learning because they have the ability to see when they are wrong.
Most men don’t understand this idea because they view everything in an adversarial manner, instead of a brotherhood. And then even more sadly many who do see things as a brotherhood are Leftists/Collectivists, they do not realize that Sovereignty is the key to avoidance of gang type mass conflicts that may end up killing us all one day. We are constantly conditioned into whatever will give the Elite the biggest army of idiots to do their bidding with as they please, including men killing men forever, for no reason other than to serve the whims of their Collectivist masters.
The argument that there has always been and therefore will always be war will soon be a thing of the past one way or another because if it is not there will be no future to host such discussions in as the world is becoming increasingly Nuclearized.
(ah, the classic OldSage self-quote!)
The world we live in now is changing big time. Chemical weapons, man made weaponized viruses, nuclear weapons… The time of dominate because you can will be coming to an ugly end very soon, in fact the future looks pretty f~~~ing dim based on trends, with my country leading in the turning off the lights department. We are told lies for the sake of winning, and more often than not what is won is not even for us, but someone else. Why make enemies of other men that you don’t need to is all I am saying over and over again here really…
Why make enemies of other men that you don’t need to is all I am saying over and over again here really…
Because they are inherently malevolent!
It results in a psychophony in that you cannot figure out what to do before it manifests itself.
It all boils down to one thing. What is your external tyrant Strategy?
My point to you is that your only acceptable strategy is to play nice.
This discusion also aligns with mgtow.
For instance, the time to figure out the nature of the female predator is before you marry.
Good luck eradicating the snake when she rears her fangs.
Good luck eradicating the enemy when your country is under attack.
Peace brothers
You talked about Texas and Mexico, tell me this; if the Irish were to adopt the American Indian Identity, then at some point hundreds of years in the future they took America by force, using their Indian Identity as justification for it, would it be right? Because that is Israel of today, same s~~~, but crazy as it is, it actually happened.
Right and wrong do not exist in this argument. Endeavoring to persevere does. If they conquer our territory and write the history books then so it will be.
A country is defined by lines on a map at a given moment in time.
Your pre-zionist utopia omits all of the lines that moved in order for it to be. Your virtual history is what you believe to be truth. The reality is that it took a force of death to move the lines.
Fair is what you think is right. That is what feminist want too. Fair doesn’t exist.
You ignore brutality on both sides of this argument. There is no moral high ground.
I am just a spectator. I see all sides as you see the one side.
Peace brothers
Anonymous14My point to you is that your only acceptable strategy is to play nice.
Logical, not acceptable. Guess you didn’t pick up on much of what I said, just like Pete.
Soon you will have no choice but to play nice or we all die. Chemical weapons, weaponized viruses, Nuclear Proliferation…
Sooner or later you learn to get along when the paradigm shifts from dominate at will to play nice or die. Your approach is suicidal, my approach is about self preservation. Iran gets nukes, U.S./Israeli shenanigans get reigned in or s~~~ hits the fan. U.S. as the big dog could be keeping things calm if they were not too busy taking sides.
Live by the gun, die by the gun.
Is it just me, or does it seem like there’s some people who have WAY TOO HIGH of a cognitive function/ Thought proccess for mere mortals to participate?
Some of you guys intertwine so much in a sentence, or paragraph, it’s like reading Assembly language!
You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home
Sooner or later you learn to get along when the paradigm shifts from dominate at will to play nice or die. Your approach is suicidal, my approach is about self preservation. Iran gets nukes, U.S./Israeli shenanigans get reigned in or s~~~ hits the fan. U.S. as the big dog could be keeping things calm if they were not too busy taking sides.
You use the word “you” and “your” to indicate that it is my strategy.
I am a spectator. I am simply telling you the reality. Like mgtow.
If you choose to be upset at one side and believe the “be pleasant strategy” then yeah for you.
You lump me in with Pete to shame me and divert my logic.
I am not trying to push your buttons to get a reaction.
I am saying that your emotional overload on this issue has clouded your judgement.
The paradigm never shifts. That is what feminist think they are doing. They stand upon the pedestal of their truth with self righteous indignation and demand that the system be the way they want it to be. (Fair and equal and play nice and be pleasant,etc)
He who has the power to enforce his will is the victor. Any other strategy takes away reason and accountability. In other words, it is the thought of a woman.
The enemy is always coming to kill you. Just a fact of reality. The system is unfair. That is is its structure. The dragon of chaos exists and when he attacks you better be ready.
Peace brothers
Anonymous1Right and wrong do not exist in this argument. Endeavoring to persevere does. If they conquer our territory and write the history books then so it will be.
Right and wrong DO exist in this argument, you are saying that “Might makes Right.” History has always been written by the victors. History is also mostly bulls~~~. The great men of history were mostly Mass Murdering Psychopaths, who believed that “Might Makes Right.”
Julius Caesar is a good example here. He Conquered Gaul, ethnically cleansed the region and then wrote a “History” book on it. This propaganda makes him look like a great hero and his “enemies” (poor farmers and villagers) are made out to be Evil Savages. Does anybody really believe Caesar wrote down the truth though? Lol.
He who has the power to enforce his will is the victor. Any other strategy takes away reason and accountability. In other words, it is the thought of a woman.
Enforcing your Will on somebody does not make your argument right.
In fact, it destroys your argument because it ceases to be debatable.
Intelligence is being able to convince somebody that your argument is correct through Logic and Reasoning. Force is the last refuge of an unreasonable argument and always leads to Tyranny.
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