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Israel PM issues Holocaust day warning.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/israel-pm-issues-holocaust-day-warning-190945375.html
From the article:
in memory of the six million Jews killed by the Nazis during the 1939-1945 World War II.
Bulls~~~! As a MGHOW I’m going with facts, not feels anymore.
I don’t know. My maternal grandfather was at Normandy and fought all the way into Germany. He was there when they stumbled into concentration camps.
When I was young he spoke about it as much as he could considering his audience.
Maybe you’re right. Maybe those piles of bones that he saw only amounted to a few hundred thousand.
Either way, whatever he saw effected him deeply. Even deeper than war! He hoped no one ever had to see that sight again.
But maybe he was just full of s~~~. Maybe the words written on his military gravestone are all bulls~~~. Maybe he was really just on holiday in the Bahamas.
Peace brothers
There is no “master list” of number of deaths as a result of Holocaust but it is known that 1.3 million RUSSIAN civilians (alone) are counted in that “6 million”.
https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10008193
In Auschwitz alone (including Birkenau, Monowitz, and subcamps) approximately 1 million.
The Auschwitz complex was divided in three major camps:
Auschwitz I main camp or Stammlager;
Auschwitz II, or Birkenau, established on October 8th, 1941 as a ‘Vernichtungslager’ (extermination camp);
Auschwitz III or Monowitz, established on May 31th, 1942 as an ‘Arbeitslager’ or work camp;
also several sub-camps.Highest number of inmates, including sub-camps: 155,000. The estimated number of deaths: 2.1 to 2.5 million killed in gas chambers, of whom about 2 million were Jews, and Poles, Gypsies and Soviet POWs. About 330,000 deaths from other causes.
Does it really matter how many?
It was the darkest period in not-too-recent human history.And let’s not forget it. It can NEVER happen again.
My grandfather was shot in the head AND LIVED.
I have a picture if you would like to see it. He was not even jewish.The bullet went in the forehead and came out the temple.
He was left for dead and almost buried alive.He had my mother and her sister and lived a full life. He just couldn’t take any yelling or noise. To call them to the dinner table,. he would clap his hands slowly 3 times. If they were not quietly seated by the 3rd clap… well….. they were never late.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.All respect to Jacque, who is an honourable member,
But,
Regardless of anyone’s personal oppinion.
Do we really want to talk about this here?
I didn’t even want to comment on it TBH.
Just don’t think this kind of discussion will do us any favours that’s all.
Just sayin’
It's Time to get Wise
Regardless of anyone’s personal opinion.
Do we really want to talk about this here?Valid. But “not talking about” it is exactly why it wasn’t until AFTER 1948+ when it started to become known what REALLY went on – especially to German citizens. They were unaware this went on. No bulls~~~. It finally started to come out 3 years after the war ended. MUCH too late. And there are people alive today who think it never happened at all.
They need a good schooling.
Makes one grateful for “social media”, in a way. Kim Kardashian can’t even fart in the toilet without snapping a selfie and blasting it out to commemorate the occasion.
All respect to
As long as we’re talking about “respect” . . . . . .
This is the kind of s~~~ that exists today.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
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I’ve studied this issue in some detail.
On the one hand you can make the argument that extermination of 6 million is a hoax. You can point to the 100s of thousands of “survivors”, even 70 years later. We Germans are an efficient people it seems if we wanted to exterminate anyone there would be no survivors. Secondly, if you look at the testimony from the Ernst Zundel Trial in Canada the manufactures of the gas-chambers and cremetria testified about the maximum number of people these facilities could handle– and their conclusion was that at full operation 24/7 for four years the absolute maximum that could have been killed is about 700,00. And one may add to the fact that again we Germans are highly efficient–and cheap. Their set up is the most inefficient and expensive method possible. You have to build the facilities, transport people there, house them until entering the gas chamber; gas them which takes about an hour, then remove the gas, and the bodies, and so on. Whereas simply shooting people en-mass, or even hanging en-mass is cheaper, faster and more efficient. So I get the argument.
But here is the important thing. The actual number is irrelevant. the immoral quality of the act itself exists independent of how the killing was done, or how many. Even if it is only one person the act is still monstrous. One is too many.
I did a paper many years ago exploring the sheer irony of these activities. Nazi Germany committed enormous time, effort, and resources to erecting these camps and killing lots of people. Had those resources been committed to the war effort instead…well. So in a way the Nazi predilection for this kind of activity might well have been the factor sealing their doom.
The point is genocide is always evil, whether it is Jews, Armenians, Rwandans, Cambodians, Yazidis etc. How many people from all over Europe did the nazis kill? Who knows, and it doesn’t matter. What matters is that a country decided to shelve sanity and try and eliminate an ethic group for no other reasons than fear hate and stupidity. And the awful truth is they had a lot of help from locals like the Ukrainians for example.
Antisemitism was never Uniquely German. Look at how Shylock is treated by Shakespeare, Or the Spanish Inquisition and their treatment of Jews, Or the Portuguese, or the English (see how Rowena is treated by Sir Walter Scott in Ivanhoe.) or the Russians–remember the end of “fiddler on the Roof? Who sacks the Jewish village and why?
This is why the state of Israel is critically important. It is a symbol that evil and genocide can be overcome. The thousand year Reich lasted 6 years before being reduced to ashes; Israel has been around 68 years–gott’em beat by better than a factor of 10.
Way more white Caucasians were killed by the Nazi’s, but they don’t count.
They have pretty much debunked the 6 million number as impossible to have been processed through the camps, let alone extermination and disposal. The number supposedly includes every Jew to have died during the time period of WW2.
Again, the number for White Caucasians dwarfs the number for Jews. They just don’t get a narrative, a day of commemoration, a museum etc. Just small footnotes in the history books.
There’s a movie called MR DEATH . It is about a guy who worked on the electric chair and made the lethal injection machine . He testified evidence in the case in canada that the Holocaust was a hoax . Intresting doco .
Ps . I do beleave it happened
THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .
Their set up is the most inefficient and expensive method possible. You have to build the facilities, transport people there, house them until entering the gas chamber; gas them which takes about an hour, then remove the gas, and the bodies, and so on. Whereas simply shooting people en-mass, or even hanging en-mass is cheaper, faster and more efficient. So I get the argument.
Wait a minute…they werent brought into the camps only to kill them.
They made experiments with the jews.check this out…
Nuremberg Trials: Big Pharma’s Crimes Against Humanity
http://www.naturalnews.com/024534_Europe_health_WHO.html“These proceedings included the Doctors Trial (December 9, 1946-August 20, 1947), in which 23 defendants were accused of crimes against humanity, including medical experiments on prisoners of war.”
source: http://www.history.com/topics/world-war-ii/nuremberg-trials
They made experiments with the jews.
Yes true; and sadly the Allies confiscated and utilized that research after the war–much to their shame.
Anonymous5When David Erving published “The Destruction Of Dresden” in 1963, it laid open the pointless murder of millions of innocent German civilians during the war, right up to the allied Eisenhower death camps where it’s factually correct that over 1.7 million German inmates died directly and intentionally, were cruelly slaughtered, by the allies.
He also came to very different conclusions about much of the history of the war given to us by the allied propaganda machine.
His study of what he eventually called “the Holocaust industry” has debunked the vast majority of myths that allied propaganda used to dehumanize the Germans, while using Jews as the victims, much like the north used blacks in the American civil war.Antisemitism was never Uniquely German. Look at how Shylock is treated by Shakespeare, Or the Spanish Inquisition and their treatment of Jews, Or the Portuguese, or the English (see how Rowena is treated by Sir Walter Scott in Ivanhoe.) or the Russians–remember the end of “fiddler on the Roof? Who sacks the Jewish village and why?
Those are just a few examples. Go to Israeli sites on the net that list and document these “Castings Out. No one covers them better than the Jewish people do.
It’s unnerving to see how these “Holocausts” happen so many times,in so many communities throughout history. Like clockwork.Hitler broke ties with the Jewish cartel of bankers (including Rothchilds) in 1933 because it was the Reichsbank being “privatized” or taken over by the same cartel which immediately caused the famous crash of currency of the Wiemar republic. You needed a wheel barrow full of money to buy a loaf of bread.
The cartel was directly responsible. The country’s wealth was looted.
The propaganda war against Hitler and Germany started then.
Anonymous1His study of what he eventually called “the Holocaust industry” has debunked the vast majority of myths that allied propaganda used to dehumanize the Germans, while using Jews as the victims, much like the north used blacks in the American civil war.
David Irving has some very interesting things to say. He actually did serious jail time just for asking questions about the statistics on the Holocaust. There is something not adding up about the final numbers given. It is definitely not 6 million like stated. It’s still a horrible stain on history though. Although, genocide and ethnic cleansing seem to happen over and over again in all parts of the world without much attention in the media at all.
It’s unnerving to see how these “Holocausts” happen so many times,in so many communities throughout history. Like clockwork.
This is why i think all civilians should have the right to own firearms:
I for one have recently started distrusting everything said concerning the holocaust. Why? Because the numbers go up and down every few years. First it was 2 million, then 4, then 6, then 2,5 and now 6 again? Weird, isn’t it?
There’s a couple of jews who said that the concentration camps weren’t as bad as pictured in the media. They had plenty of food, water, excercise, went to the theater (in-camp) and had fun. The only thing they weren’t allowed to do was leave.
Then there’s the evidence that camps like Auschwitz didn’t even HAVE gas chambers. Those chimneys you see connected to the chambers? They were built later by Soviets for propaganda. They don’t even connect to the “gas chambers”! Furthermore, as I’ve read, Zyklon-B was used to try and contain typhus outbreaks, not for gassing people.
I’m sure lots of jews died in the war, but can we also think about the millions of non-jews who perished?
"One of the best things internet exposed is just how insane women are." - Freeman_K
I for one have recently started distrusting everything said concerning the holocaust. Why? Because the numbers go up and down every few years. First it was 2 million, then 4, then 6, then 2,5 and now 6 again? Weird, isn’t it?
There’s a couple of jews who said that the concentration camps weren’t as bad as pictured in the media. They had plenty of food, water, excercise, went to the theater (in-camp) and had fun. The only thing they weren’t allowed to do was leave.
Then there’s the evidence that camps like Auschwitz didn’t even HAVE gas chambers. Those chimneys you see connected to the chambers? They were built later by Soviets for propaganda. They don’t even connect to the “gas chambers”! Furthermore, as I’ve read, Zyklon-B was used to try and contain typhus outbreaks, not for gassing people.
I’m sure lots of jews died in the war, but can we also think about the millions of non-jews who perished?
the one thing I hate about this discussion is that if you do question the official line then you are “anti-Semitic” right off the bat (just look at the comments in this link)
the more I read into it I think the 6 million figure is crap to try to garner more sympathy for Israel (who are f~~~ing things up for the rest of us) but the truth, as always, probably lies somewhere in the middle
I for one have recently started distrusting everything said concerning the holocaust. Why? Because the numbers go up and down every few years. First it was 2 million, then 4, then 6, then 2,5 and now 6 again? Weird, isn’t it?
There’s a couple of jews who said that the concentration camps weren’t as bad as pictured in the media. They had plenty of food, water, excercise, went to the theater (in-camp) and had fun. The only thing they weren’t allowed to do was leave.
Then there’s the evidence that camps like Auschwitz didn’t even HAVE gas chambers. Those chimneys you see connected to the chambers? They were built later by Soviets for propaganda. They don’t even connect to the “gas chambers”! Furthermore, as I’ve read, Zyklon-B was used to try and contain typhus outbreaks, not for gassing people.
I’m sure lots of jews died in the war, but can we also think about the millions of non-jews who perished?
the one thing I hate about this discussion is that if you do question the official line then you are “anti-Semitic” right off the bat (just look at the comments in this link)
the more I read into it I think the 6 million figure is crap to try to garner more sympathy for Israel (who are f~~~ing things up for the rest of us) but the truth, as always, probably lies somewhere in the middle
I cannot even begin to imagine the guilt and shame that would still be heaped upon us had we even accidently dropped 1 bomb on the death camps, killing even a handful of jews inside.
All of the protected victim class discussions are set up as a one way shaming, with no rationale conversation to be even broached without the person being labeled an anti-Semite, homophobe, xenophobe, misogynist, islamaphobe etc. funny that there is no term for hating Christians or conservatives, or that misandry is always flagged as a misspelling in my word processers.
Thank you all for your responses. This post is in no way MGTOW’s position but my own personal opinion based on research I’ve conducted. Hundreds of hours of reading and watching, that’s it.
Netanyahu’s wife is also about to be indicted over corruption charges. I found the timing of the top posted article and the indictment of her to be a form of misdirection.
Thank you for your stories and opinions gentlemen. I knew this was a difficult topic for discussion when I posted it. A free man can question everything. A slave can question only what he is told to. If he can question at all.
I for one have recently started distrusting everything said concerning the holocaust. Why? Because the numbers go up and down every few years. First it was 2 million, then 4, then 6, then 2,5 and now 6 again? Weird, isn’t it?
There’s a couple of jews who said that the concentration camps weren’t as bad as pictured in the media. They had plenty of food, water, excercise, went to the theater (in-camp) and had fun. The only thing they weren’t allowed to do was leave.
Then there’s the evidence that camps like Auschwitz didn’t even HAVE gas chambers. Those chimneys you see connected to the chambers? They were built later by Soviets for propaganda. They don’t even connect to the “gas chambers”! Furthermore, as I’ve read, Zyklon-B was used to try and contain typhus outbreaks, not for gassing people.
I’m sure lots of jews died in the war, but can we also think about the millions of non-jews who perished?
the one thing I hate about this discussion is that if you do question the official line then you are “anti-Semitic” right off the bat (just look at the comments in this link)
the more I read into it I think the 6 million figure is crap to try to garner more sympathy for Israel (who are f~~~ing things up for the rest of us) but the truth, as always, probably lies somewhere in the middle
And that’s the thing. I don’t give a flying f~~~ if someone calls me a(n) anti-semitic, racist, misogynist, etc etc. Words like that have lost their meaning to me. Don’t care if you’re a jew, or non-white, or a woman; if I like you, I like you. If I don’t like you, I don’t like you. Simple as that.
"One of the best things internet exposed is just how insane women are." - Freeman_K
Thank you all for your responses. This post is in no way MGTOW’s position but my own personal opinion based on research I’ve conducted. Hundreds of hours of reading and watching, that’s it.
Netanyahu’s wife is also about to be indicted over corruption charges. I found the timing of the top posted article and the indictment of her to be a form of misdirection.
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Thank you for your stories and opinions gentlemen. I knew this was a difficult topic for discussion when I posted it. A free man can question everything. A slave can question only what he is told to. If he can question at all.
Understood.
The reality is that history is written by the victors! Always.
Personally, I would not have wanted to be a Jew in German occupation territory or a Native American Indian in the USA.
If the Indians could have controlled the narrative what would history say?
I am not offended or upset at any of my fellow brothers. We all have our perspective. What is right? What is wrong?
Ultimately, Israel is surrounded by people that hate them and want them dead.
That is a fact. I have been in Israel many times. When I am hurled and huddling in a concrete tube and the ground shakes from an explosion I know one thing. Death is coming!
Peace brothers
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