Is this where I say "hi"?

[Ronin De NiroParticipant 200]

Hello everyone. So, I read on this subforum description that people like to read introductions from top to bottom. Does it mean that it would be better to be kind of prolix?

However it is, here is the brief story first:

I’m 36, never married, no kids, programmer, ninja-wannabe (got into martial arts a bit more than would be considered mentally sane). No particular horror story besides being heartbroken a few times. Went into a promiscuity frenzy, then got into a one year long relationship with a “unicorn” (the longest monogamous relationship in my life), got fed up and, since then, went into monk mode. Its been an year and a half.

The long part:

I’ve always been mostly a loner, and having to deal with certain society protocols is so frustrasting. When I was around 34, I decided to google about how to deal with these. I stumbled on Hikikomori, then japanese grass-eaters, marriage strike and, finally, MGTOW. “‘Women won’t marry you for love, but for material gain’? Well, this is not news to me.” I grew up in the second poorest area of a poor neighborhood of a city in a third world country. All I have to say about girls there, is probably what you already know. Its either money, muscles, or criminality. Otherwise, forget girls(I decided for the second with no shortcuts, but more on that later).

I also have stories about the so-called “wall”. Beautiful crush wouldn’t give me attention. Fast forward, she got pregnant, I get in shape, her body crumbles, and few years later, “deep inside I always loved you”. Other hits her thirties, notice she does not get the same attention as before, and, once again, “you know that deep inside I always loved you, don’t you”. Others got married with someone wealthier than I am, “but deep inside I never forgot you”.

Meanwhile, I aged kinda well. Its not something to brag, it is just that it was impossible to get worse than what I already was. I was very androginous when younger, p~~~-poor, and not particularly smart. I do believe I had a good heart, though. Than everything switched (but not after long years of struggle), and the last paragraph started to happen.

After getting romantically disapointed at 28, went into a f~~~ing spree for many years, until I met the only woman with whom I spent more than 6 months together(one year and two months). A beautiful woman that would do everything I wanted to in bed and would have long interesting conversations. Although I have reasons to believe she loved me (it includes living with her for months in crushing poverty after being fired), there were just to many things attached that I couldn’t bear. There was just too much drama, and (my) money started to become a more frequent topic. Arguments were started at parties or while we are leaving to one. Problems were created. From my part, I missed being alone more frequently. So at strike three(saying that she was wasting her time with me because I don’t want kids, something that she knew from day one), I asked her to take her things and leave and never knew about her again. Her decision to disappear, not mine. I wouldn’t care to keep contact with her, no benefits included. Would be nice to have more of the conversations that we had, but hey, I’m ok with that.

Today I’m in a situation where I can’t decide if I’m on a sabbatical, frugally retired, or slowly starting a new business. I quit my last job because I was burning out, and noticed my passive income covering all my expenses already. However it is, it is probably the best time of my life (besides my body not being able to train as much as before). Current peace is priceless. I’m living mostly reclused, something I always wanted to do, and it is a blessing. I wake up late and go to sleep just before the sunrises, and oh how productive this quietness is.

About woman: I still have friendships with them, although mostly a shallow one. I don’t miss sex much per se, I’m not interested in just another blowjob or ass pounding. What I do miss is intimacy. But after seeing so much, it is going to be difficult to feel that way with someone again. The difference between love that would bring a woman to tears and indifference was 15 pounds of muscle. So why bother hugging someone a whole cold morning (and convincing her to do so) instead of doing something that would yield improvements in my life, if as soon as I get the flu and lose weight, the bright in her eyes will disappear? Oh, and don’t think that I was looking for a “perfect ten” or something. As long as she was healthy, clean and play any sports, I couldn’t care less if she was chubby, had a big nose or whatever the popular beauty standards condemns.

Truth be told, I think my “f~~~ing spree” was a waste of time. It didn’t bring me any benefits besides stories to tell. It is almost like trying a different food, like caviar, or pheasant. Congratulations for spending hundreds of dollars on these. How does it make your life better today, what could you have done with all that money instead that was more durable in your life? In my case it was more about time than money. I’m kind of vaccinated against spending money with woman, thanks to enough examples in my life (it includes my single mother). One could say it was an experience. Well, yeah, life is made of experiences, some say. But, at least in my case, I think I could have done something better. My life would be better if I didn’t spend so much time with woman. I’ve seen people spending much more than me, but I don’t wanna compare with others, but with what is possible.

It is obvioulsy easier to live and thing like that after so much promiscuity, and when I’m at 36, and not 14, when I had one single thought in my head the whole day. Thank god(s) those days are far behind me. It is like a built-in addiction with no treatment. Today I still masturbate once in a while, but more because I feel uncomfortable in “the area” with the accumulation than sexual arousal.

So, for you that red it all, thanks and congratulations for such patience.

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

Yes, This is where you say Hi and we say Welcome home brother!

I am glad you are here.

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[Anonymous 42]

Welcome Ronin, we have allot in common, 1 year tops for LTR, martial arts, the f~~~ spree, I can relate to your story because I lived almost the same life, only my eggs cracked about 5 years earlier, by my mid 30s I was all done. With my insides burned out and my head finally on straight I decided to walk away while the smoke was still coming out. Never looked back, always looked forward, life has been GREAT since then.
Welcome to MGTOW, enjoy your stay!

[MattNYCParticipant 2329]

Welcome brother, and great choice in username/avatar. That movie f~~~ing rocks!! Still one of my all time shootout/chase scenes (along with the Bourne Identity).

I thought this was very well said:

Ronin De Niro wrote:

The difference between love that would bring a woman to tears and indifference was 15 pounds of muscle.

Do you mind if i ask what country/region you grew up in? I’m assuming it’s English-speaking, since your writing is very polished.

[Blue SkiesParticipant 15665]

Ronin De Niro wrote:

However it is, here is the brief story first:

I’m 36, never married, no kids, programmer, ninja-wannabe (got into martial arts a bit more than would be considered mentally sane). No particular horror story besides being heartbroken a few times. Went into a promiscuity frenzy, then got into a one year long relationship with a “unicorn” (the longest monogamous relationship in my life), got fed up and, since then, went into monk mode. Its been an year and a half.

read your brief story… welcome pal!

similar to you, i’ve never been married so i don’t have any horror stories, but from my experience, MGTOW is certainly the way to go.

enjoy the forums and the website.
i’m glad you found the path to freedom

MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.

[Ronin De NiroParticipant 200]

Thanks everyone for welcoming me!

Anonymous wrote:

Welcome Ronin, we have allot in common, 1 year tops for LTR, martial arts, the f~~~ spree, I can relate to your story because I lived almost the same life, only my eggs cracked about 5 years earlier, by my mid 30s I was all done. With my insides burned out and my head finally on straight I decided to walk away while the smoke was still coming out. Never looked back, always looked forward, life has been GREAT since then.
Welcome to MGTOW, enjoy your stay!

May I ask what “my eggs cracked” means? Google says it is “to have children”. Also, how old are you today? I’m happy that you are happy after the “insides burned out”. I know how it can be.

MattNYC wrote:

Welcome brother, and great choice in username/avatar. That movie f~~~ing rocks!! Still one of my all time shootout/chase scenes (along with the Bourne Identity).

I thought this was very well said:

Ronin De Niro wrote:

The difference between love that would bring a woman to tears and indifference was 15 pounds of muscle.

Do you mind if i ask what country/region you grew up in? I’m assuming it’s English-speaking, since your writing is very polished.

I actually chose that avatar because of my age… That’s how you look when you are 36, right?

I’m kidding. I kind of see myself at his oblivion, proficiency commitment, and pragmatism.

– They chose honor. They chose myth.
– They chose wrong.

Along with “looks like ballet” that I heard from a senior woman while I was training (the fact that she seemed as very well educated woman adds to it) and from a guy whose ass I was kicking during a spar, being taken as a native english speaker is probably one of the best compliment I can get. Thank you very much for that. But I don’t think my english is that polite. However it is, it encourages me a bit more to decide to go on with my writing tales project in english.

[Binary LogicParticipant 2351]

Welcome brother. Thanks for the intro. And yes, it was read from top to bottom, it was actually pretty interesting. Seems like you made out good despite having to start from scratch (or literally nothing by the sound of it). That’s good stuff. I don’t imagine you would of come as far had you not dodged the proverbial nightmare that is marriage, or any other relationship for that matter. Good post. Look forward to hearing from ya.

Funny, isn't it? How women thrive on a mans time, attention and resources, while simultaneously telling him he isn't enough...

[darreljamesonParticipant 57]

Welcome. I’m new here too. Sounds like your woman was happy with you until she got jealous of other girls with more money to blow, then wanted to trade up. They all get bored and get greedy, want what they can’t have.

If you want emotional intimacy then have friends or go gay, because a woman can never truly care or appreciate the thoughts of her credit card.

Once you realize that all they really offer is sex, and that they want to just move in and have every thing that you have built until they consume all like locusts and move to the next “field” it is just not a good deal. The women become far less appealing other than a quickie.

Before you say NAWALT, condemn those women publicly; it's like a signal flare to the good men you can't find. But. first...stop being THAT girl.

[Mr. ManParticipant 2916]

Welcome! Your intro was an interesting read. You’ll fit in just fine here.

[Tiga KParticipant 1693]

Welcome. Your introduction was very interesting.

[Anonymous 0]

Thanks for sharing your story. You seem at peace. Well done! Your story could be an inspiration to younger men who read it.

[AttonParticipant]

Quite the story welcome.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[roninParticipant 341]

A great story and very inspirational. Welcome and enjoy the forums.

We are at the dawn of a New Era. We are the Vanguard.-Greg Honda.

[Sagaciously SingleParticipant 214]

Welcome brother and enjoy your stay!

To darreljameson, I applaud this passage!

Once you realize that all they really offer is sex, and that they want to just move in and have every thing that you have built until they consume all like locusts and move to the next “field” it is just not a good deal. The women become far less appealing other than a quickie.

"And this you can know - fear the time when Manself will not suffer and die for a concept, for this one quality is the foundation of Manself, and this one quality is man, distinctive in the universe". - John Steinbeck.

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