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I don’t think us guys can beat this without female allies.
Can beat what? What are you talking about?
Going Your Own Way means you have already won.
by sheer numbers, men can’t do it alone.
Can’t do what alone?
Going Your Own Way isn’t about what you do. It’s about what you don’t.
I dont have any friends that are female,
I have a few female friends.
In fact, the friend zone is exactly where you should put a woman. Immediately.
None of them are what I would call allies, though.
When I feel that I am not valued by a woman I ignore her. I know this sounds simplistic but ATTENTION is their opiate. It works well. I have not spoken to numerous women in years including my ex. They have lost their communication privileges with me. It works like a charm. I touch base with my sister from time to time but I do not live near her nor do I talk to her. I do have one female friend who has earned my trust and respect. However, most women do not fit that bill.
Women do not like to be victims but they need to be victims. Why? Because it gives them their opiate, ATTENTION. They love attention, even negative attention is better to them than being ignored. Try it. You will see that it works. Do not initiate contact with them they will come to you. Eventually, they may even go away, then your life will get better.
Go MGTOW!!
Where it REALLY gets fu;cked up is when you start to understand that it IS in womens best interests for you to go MGTOW. It is all together better for them. Women’s lives get better. The country gets stronger. Women get what they need instead of what they think they want. And All together every wins. Minus the people who wish to push humanity into the dumpster. That is the cold hard truth.
You’re going to have to explain your reasoning there.
Saying women benefit from MGTOW is like saying fleas benefit from flea powder.Fleas still need a host. Kill the host, then what? Don’t want to die, starve? Better get with the program. That’s the simple answer.
Women are going to be HAPPIER with MGTOW men leading the west soon. Either that? or your FULL OUT replacements are going to be here in 20 years. At that time? There will be no hiding. No Help. No Sympathy. MGTOW makes women happy. LIke it or not, WOMEN want strong men. Not weak men. Weak men are going to die out. After that, there is no going back. Women are going to be around for sure. But as men start with Artificial wombs, Compainoon bots/ replicants, there is no more room for women. MGTOW will teach women not to f~~~ with a man again. It’s not a good idea.
When I came to MGTOW, I noticed one thing. THere is ONLY one ending in this story. OUr way, or the Highway. MGTOW men WILL NOT compromise. DEath or freedom. My choice. Not anyone else.
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When I feel that I am not valued by a woman I ignore her. I know this sounds simplistic but ATTENTION is their opiate. It works well. I have not spoken to numerous women in years including my ex. They have lost their communication privileges with me. It works like a charm. I touch base with my sister from time to time but I do not live near her nor do I talk to her. I do have one female friend who has earned my trust and respect. However, most women do not fit that bill.
*BOOM*
My sister (and now my mother) are the starring women in one of the two situations that arose this year. I know “allies” is a touchy word to use in the MGTOW context, probably a leftover from my blue-pill days, and I only use it because I can’t think of a better replacement-word to use when we’re talking about (formerly-trusted) family members. As for the situation with the friends and the bitchy chick, those women indeed would consider themselves my allies despite what I consider them at this moment. Thanks for bringing the focus back onto family with your comment, and for the reminder that attention is the opiate they’re after. That is exactly what I’ve been withholding from them since my sister’s outburst at my place in March. The other bitchy-girl incident (or I should say her latest one) happened less than a month later, almost like I’ve got a target on my back for these bitches. Indeed, “allies” is the wrong word to use here, it’s just shorthand for another word I can’t quite think of.
Fleas still need a host.
That’s the flea’s problem, not the dog’s.
Kill the host, then what?
Who said anything about killing the host? The host is merely walking away for its own benefit.
Don’t want to die, starve? Better get with the program. That’s the simple answer.
Whether or not the fleas starve or not is beneath my concern so long as they are not feeding off me.
Women are going to be HAPPIER with MGTOW men leading the west soon.
Going Your OWN Way is not a matter of leading anything.
MGTOW won’t lead the west. MGTOW are walking away from the west.
LIke it or not, WOMEN want strong men.
Women want strong men who serve the needs of women. That’s why little girls are all into horses, not lions. Horses can be bridled. Lions can’t.
Besides, Going Your Own Way mean you don’t give a fuck about what women want.
MGTOW will teach women not to f~~~ with a man again.
You’re assuming they can learn.
Going Your Own Way means freedom for men. It does not mean happiness for women. It does not concern itself with education women. At most it means a sort of imposed existential nihilism for women, but that is not our problem.
They’re not allies. They don’t want to help you. Nobody gives a s~~~ about men, least of all women.
These are entryists looking for an easy meal ticket. Want examples?
Georgia, Daisy, Lauren (all of them)
You are at best a host they will attach to for access to more men willing to pay a kind of cute woman telling them what they want to hear.
You win by walking away and defining your own meaning. Women will try to define you and box you in.
Cupcakes are Cold. MGTOW is Absolute Zero.
“Let us wait a little; when your enemy is executing a false movement, never interrupt him” –Napoleon Bonaparte, 1805A woman can be an ally temporarily, depending on the context of what you’re trying to get done. You aren’t going to find a woman who supports you in everything MGTOW, but there are women out there that will help you get where you want to go.
For example, my divorce attorney was a woman. The home loan broker I like to use is a woman. Both are good at their job and helped me to live my life the way I want to. I wouldn’t trust either of them beyond the roles they currently have in my life. I have some female friends that are fun to hang out with, but I don’t count on them to have my back or anything like that. You could make the argument that we use each other in situations where it’s mutually beneficial to do so.
For me at least, I don’t generally count on anyone to do just about anything for me. I may ask for something or expect a certain behavior, but I don’t put myself at risk for disappointment when that person doesn’t come through. Or maybe it’s better to say I don’t trust anyone who hasn’t earned it.
Ok. Then do it.
For example, my divorce attorney was a woman. The home loan broker I like to use is a woman.
Your divorce attorney was PAID. Your broker was PAID.
They are in it for themselves, not for you. As soon as they think they could get paid more for stabbing you in the back, they will both happily shove the knife in without a second thought.
That is not an ally.
The right female ally can make sense for MRA, but not for MGTOW. There’s no reason for a female ally to MGTOW, because there’s nothing about MGTOW that needs female support. A woman who sympathizes with MGTOW would simply interact with men in a way that respects their right to determine the course of their own lives.
The right female ally can make sense for MRA,
Naw. There’s no sense in MRA, whatsoever. MRAs start with the false assumption that women can be reasoned with, and only makes less and less sense from there on.
MRAs start with the false assumption that women can be reasoned with, a
Actually, the first false assumption is that women can even be empathetic, but that’s only a fraction of a second before attempting reason so they get conflated.
Cupcakes are Cold. MGTOW is Absolute Zero.
“Let us wait a little; when your enemy is executing a false movement, never interrupt him” –Napoleon Bonaparte, 1805WHY would you want a “female ally” to the MGTOW Lifestyle ???
Valid.
Short answer: I don’t think us guys can beat this without female allies. I have nothing to back this up and I’ve never bothered to debate it, I just have a gut feeling about it.You think we NEED women? Then you came to the wrong place, bro.
We don’t need women, not for this purpose, at least. We need ourselves.A man going his own way need no woman. in fact, if he needs a woman, he is definitely NOT going his own way, but HER WAY.
"Young was I once, I walked alone, and bewildered seemed in the way; then I found me another and rich I thought me, for man is the joy of man." Odin, Hàvamàl, stanza 47.
can’t fight logic
You are truly a wordsmith logic and women in same sentence. It is like palm tree and iceberg. Icebergs and palm trees never fight as they are never found within distance of a smoke signal.Women don’t know what they want other than it is something they don’t have.Women given things by men are a validations of their worth.Women act like they care. They act like they do gain useful simps to Rolodex to used for changing tire, loan money.Women are actresses and will say or do anything that advances her situation.Women love to talk.Women’s words and actions are not the same. Watch what they do.
Research “The Chameleon Syndrome.” They will, if they want you bad enough, be into whatever you are into, even if it is jacking off to videos of people stewing in their own feces.
I had an ex with a daughter she gave up for adoption many years ago, this woman was 42 and her daughter was 23. She even suggested, because she knew I wanted a double bj, bringing HER DAUGHTER IN. Of course this is a false cookie, BUT, the notion that she would BRING IT UP and OFFER. That is all you need to know.
Whether it be a MGTOW philosophy, or a philosophy of blowing 3 cawks at the same time, she would pretend to be into it to get into your life.
It’s biologically impossible.
People’s attitudes regarding relationships (even those of other people) is strongly influenced by their own sexuality.
Women’s sexuality specifically evolved to exploit men’s labour/resources.
Therefore a “female ally to MGTOW lifestyle” sounds like “a shark ally to a vegetarian lifestyle”…
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Yea, i got me a woman ally. Known her for 28 years. If ever I’m feeling down i call her. If ever i want female advice i call her. If ever i feel like chatting i call her. I also know both of her gorgeous daughters who also communicate with me on occassion. My female ally reveals all the s~~~ty methods females use against men, provides valuable advice on how to meet or pickup females and often gave me balance when my s~~~ty gf was being typically s~~~ty with me. I get unconditional emotional attachment and emotional support with her and although we now live 800 miles apart for the last 8 years we still communicate regularly.
She isn’t typical as she understands how hard money is to come by and doesn’t waste it on frivolous s~~~. Last time i saw her was Christmas time, i dropped in and she put me up for a week and fed me, all without expecting anything back except my friendship.
We have never f~~~ed and I’m glad we didn’t as that would have made it nearly impossible to be friends. I also know both her ex husbands. They are both really good guys. First husband was best man at second wedding LOL.
She is one in a million!Had a woman loudly declare female superiority because they can multi-task and men can't! Told her to "shut up and fuck off" and she couldn't do either!
MRAs start with the false assumption that women can be reasoned with, a
Actually, the first false assumption is that women can even be empathetic, but that’s only a fraction of a second before attempting reason so they get conflated.
My understanding of MRA is that they aren’t trying to reason with women, but are mainly trying to call out the anti-male bias in the law and in social attitudes. Karen Straughan is a good example of a female MRA, and I’m not aware of her doing anything that would raise suspicion about her being a chameleon. Unlike the chameleons who have gotten on MGTOW forums, faked sympathy, sprinkled in pro-relationship sentiment, and tried to chase away men who were impervious to the chameleon agenda, Karen has stayed in the MRA lane.
Some people would point out women like Karen to MGTOW and say, “See, not everybody is anti-male, so it isn’t as bad as you think it is.” Karen’s example doesn’t mean that at all. MRA and MGTOW are two different concerns. To whatever extent their reasons for existence overlap, it doesn’t matter. A person who prefers to be single doesn’t owe anybody an explanation, and it’s anybody’s business to try to figure out why the person is single.
every women I was with never existed. She was a character playing a part.She did not actually look,smell or act anything like . It was an actress playing a role to be someone you would do things for the last thing she wanted is to be known for the real her. She may not even know who she is down deep anymore
She may not even know who she is down deep anymore
Maybe there isn’t anything deeper.
I believe they are called “double agents.”
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