Is there any hope for my brother?

[ArcParticipant 350]

Hey guys, as you most likely know I had a trad-con upbringing. As a result, I had been blue pill for a significant portion of my life. Consequently, so has my older brother; since I don’t want to see him get hurt any more I have been trying to feed him red pill knowledge. I know that he acknowledges that the red pill is the truth. He has been a simp to women many times before and been snubbed many times. He has never had a girlfriend let alone kissed one before. He wallows in his loneliness, romantically pining for a NAWALT saying, “before I die, I’d at least like to kiss a girl”. Often times this “need” of his blinds him into being used again and again and I have to bring him back into reality by reminding him of how many times each of his crushes never gave him the time of day and that if NAWALTs exist they are exceedingly unlikely to be found.

We had an argument recently after seeing Rogue One. My stance was that while it was better than Force Awakens and didn’t play such a gynocentric agenda, the agenda was still there (hell, even the people in charge of the movie admitted it was a PC movie). What with the crude butchering of the Star Wars story just to include a female character. Geonocians made the Death Star plans not Jyn Urso’s father and many Bothan spies died to secure the Death Star schematics (some people argue that because the Bothan’s were mentioned in episode V it was referred to the second reconstructed Death Star, to which I argue that it still had the same crippling weakness, the only difference was that they could fly into the station itself rather than shoot down an exhaust pipe, and if that were true that would imply the Rebellion didn’t know how to copy and send a file).

He accused me of being an extremist and just looking for a boogeyman. He claims that MGTOW is a hopeless stance on life and that it is no way to live (I argue, that that is the only way to live in the present conditions and rules of our society). He wants to continue to hope for some woman that will appreciate and not betray him. I try to remind him that there is no law that would prevent a woman from abandoning our traditional way of live and f~~~ing him over. I know that he knows I’m telling him the truth and I just want him to be safe. Does anyone think I can save him from being used?

The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout "Save us!"... and I'll whisper "no."

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22526]

Arc wrote:

Geonocians made the Death Star plans not Jyn Urso’s father and many Bothan spies died to secure the Death Star schematics (some people argue that because the Bothan’s were mentioned in episode V it was referred to the second reconstructed Death Star, to which I argue that it still had the same crippling weakness, the only difference was that they could fly into the station itself rather than shoot down an exhaust pipe, and if that were true that would imply the Rebellion didn’t know how to copy and send a file).

Do not think too much on the plot of Rogue One.

Counting the Rogue One movie, over the last four decades, since the premiere of the original Star Wars: A New Hope movie, there have been eight different stories on how the Rebels stole the plans for the Death Star: http://io9.gizmodo.com/the-obscenely-complex-way-the-rebels-stole-the-death-st-1790153881

And due to the way the Rogue One movie ended, this plot of the movie could be relegated to one of the multiple choice pasts the the first Death Star has: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MultipleChoicePast

As for your brother. At some point reality may slap him in the face. At which point he might begin to understand what you are saying. Though, that is a “might”. Not a sure bet.

[Greg HondaParticipant 6406]

If women ignore him he will have to try and better himself physically and financially to attract them. This will take time. He may become successful and then the women will want his utility. If he has worked hard and long he may think twice about giving away his achievements for female attention. If you show him the truth he will be aware of their motives. As he grows older he will grow stronger. The women who reject him now grow weaker.

You have done what you can to protect him. Let him learn his lessons in life. What will be will be. His path is his to travel. Your path is yours. He will thank you one day for your help. You have done your part.

It's Time to get Wise

[DorkShitParticipant 4353]

Your brother wants what he has never had. On the sexual market value scale he must be very, very low. Like a 1.

He wants what he will never have. A normal married life with a loving wife and children.

Has no idea how lucky he is. But, women will easily suck his resources off of him. He would give anything for a woman.

As his brother, there is nothing you can do. Except, pay a hooker without his knowledge, etc.

Peace brothers

[Joey AlfioParticipant]

I think you’ll have to smack some sense into your brother. Words are meaningless at this point.

Δεν υπάρχει τίποτε αδύνατο γι’ αυτόν που θα προσπαθήσει. - Μέγας Αλέξανδρος

[Anonymous 54]

Joey Alfio wrote:

I think you’ll have to smack some sense into your brother. Words are meaningless at this point.

Hahah Its a Brother thing!!!!

[ArcParticipant 350]

Greg Honda wrote:

If women ignore him he will have to try and better himself physically and financially to attract them.

That is exactly what he is doing. He’s been working his way up to a CFO position in the company we work in. Additionally he was the captain of the Nevada Reno Boxing team, he is an epitome of fitness. The only downsides are that both of us are not very socially fluid, we are conservatives in California, and we are both short (under 5’5″).

Greg Honda wrote:

You have done what you can to protect him. Let him learn his lessons in life.

I still love him. He never failed me. He even saved my life a few times. How can I abandon him?

The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout "Save us!"... and I'll whisper "no."

[ArcParticipant 350]

DorkShit wrote:

Your brother wants what he has never had. On the sexual market value scale he must be very, very low. Like a 1.

I think you are forgetting just how stuck up women are these days

The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout "Save us!"... and I'll whisper "no."

[Jim01Participant 6678]

he sounds desperate so will only attract the users so he is pretty stuffed tbh

[RhinoParticipant 3477]

You can’t force your brother to think like you he has to learn the hard way. I have a brother and we have difference of opinion on many things in life he thinks he found his nawalt but we all know how that will eventually turn out. No matter how many red pills I try to feed him nothing works so I left him alone and stopped bothering him. He is slowly seeing all the things I pointed out to him for a few years now starting to creep up in his relationship who knows how much longer he will be in it.

The only thing you can do is be there for him when he finally hits bottom and learns that you were telling him the truth the entire time. There is nothing you can do for him the red pill has to be learned by getting burned while playing with fire.

[Anonymous 3]

I have a brother as well who has a girlfriend. Because I care about him, I make sure I send him links to plenty of red-pill articles. Hopefully, it’ll get the wheels turning.

[DorkShitParticipant 4353]

Arc wrote:

Darksith wrote:

Your brother wants what he has never had. On the sexual market value scale he must be very, very low. Like a 1.

I think you are forgetting just how stuck up women are these days

Yes. 100% of women are looking for men in the top 10% or 1% or .000001%. Your brother is not in the preferred male gene pool. He is not a male unicorn.

He is an atm machine with money. That is his market value. Thus, women will take his money and hurt your brother.

You want to prevent this. So, the only solution that I see is for you to purchase an escort to service him and not let him know.

That is about all a loving, caring brother can do.

Peace brothers

[MeisterParticipant 2093]

Lots of half backed nonsense in this thread.

1. MGTOW is not “the only way to live in the present conditions and rules of our society” – MGTOW has and alway will be the only way in any society.

2. Women don’t give a s~~~ whether you are short or physically fit. That’s not how their psychology works.

3. I’m totaly lost with the Star Wars mumbo jumbo.

Your brother seems desperate, needy and mental. A total mangina.
The last thing he wants is a woman in his life.
Bitches eat betas like him for breakfast.

Monk

[ArcParticipant 350]

Rhino wrote:

The only thing you can do is be there for him when he finally hits bottom and learns that you were telling him the truth the entire time. There is nothing you can do for him the red pill has to be learned by getting burned while playing with fire.

You are probably right, personally I’d rather prevent that from happening to him.

The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout "Save us!"... and I'll whisper "no."

[ArcParticipant 350]

Meister wrote:

1. MGTOW is not “the only way to live in the present conditions and rules of our society” – MGTOW has and alway will be the only way in any society.

That was the point I was trying to make, sorry if the wording was misleading

Meister wrote:

2. Women don’t give a s~~~ whether you are short or physically fit. That’s not how their psychology works.

Women desire many things:
1. Power (the means of utility whether that be social and/or economical, this trumps everything generally)
2. Physique (instinctually it tells them you have healthy genes; it’s the same reason men like women with a good hip to bust ratio; conversely women like TALL and FIT men)
3. Money (one could argue that this falls under one but a guy can have money without power, just look at the guys who win the lottery and then have a bunch of gold diggers go after them)

I know that as soon as you can’t provide them these they will generally leave you. Obviously you haven’t tried online dating because the above are all the “requirements” every woman posts, they wont give anyone missing these the time of day.

Meister wrote:

3. I’m totaly lost with the Star Wars mumbo jumbo.

Your brother seems desperate, needy and mental. A total mangina.
The last thing he wants is a woman in his life.
Bitches eat betas like him for breakfast.

I was trying to tell you what I’ve been arguing with him about to attempt to show what it’s like to argue with him. Sorry if I ran on a tangent, I hate it when a good franchise is co-opted to fit the feminist agenda.

As for my brother, I know he’s a simp. I know bitches will suck him dry like a vampire if given the chance. The point of this forum was to hopefully get some advice to WAKE HIM THE F~~~ UP before that happens. So there you go, that outline it enough for you? Prick

The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout "Save us!"... and I'll whisper "no."

[ArcParticipant 350]

DorkShit wrote:

You want to prevent this. So, the only solution that I see is for you to purchase an escort to service him and not let him know.

That is about all a loving, caring brother can do.

Thank you for the advice, we do visit Nevada on occasion. Prostitution is legal over there so it could be done. However, we have a trad-con upbringing and are Roman Catholic. To be honest, as tempting as it would be for him, I don’t think he’d go for it. He wants a solid marriage, not a one night stand. If it worked, it might get the poison out for a time or it might get him more addicted.

The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout "Save us!"... and I'll whisper "no."

[ArcParticipant 350]

Jim01 wrote:

he sounds desperate so will only attract the users so he is pretty stuffed tbh

Yeah, I’ve been trying to warn him about that. F~~~ me, right?

The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout "Save us!"... and I'll whisper "no."

[ArcParticipant 350]

Faust For Science wrote:

Do not think too much on the plot of Rogue One.

I suppose if I gaze into the abyss too long it will look right back. I am being a little obsessive, like I said I just hate it when a good franchise gets ruined by feminists.

The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout "Save us!"... and I'll whisper "no."

[SolidusXParticipant 854]

Arc wrote:

Greg Honda wrote:

If women ignore him he will have to try and better himself physically and financially to attract them.

That is exactly what he is doing. He’s been working his way up to a CFO position in the company we work in. Additionally he was the captain of the Nevada Reno Boxing team, he is an epitome of fitness. The only downsides are that both of us are not very socially fluid, we are conservatives in California, and we are both short (under 5’5″).

Greg Honda wrote:

You have done what you can to protect him. Let him learn his lessons in life.

I still love him. He never failed me. He even saved my life a few times. How can I abandon him?

Firstly never abandon family so you are right to say that you should not abandon him at all… though there are times when you have to right off family members because they are soo gone or toxic. I would recommend the only way to make your brother come back to the light is let him fall in the dark aka getting with a women to see how they really are if he does not believe you. Secondly being short really does limit your good looking women options (I am only 5’9″ so know the feeling) which leaves you the fat or desperate ones that are left, however if you have money it will boost your chances significantly of getting at least a 6 out of 10. The downside is that the woman will just want your money, so best just to pump and dump and go to the next little thing that is clamoring for a buck then start the cycle again.

Knowledge is power..... Don't waste your brain on bullshit

[MeisterParticipant 2093]

Arc wrote:

Meister wrote:

1. MGTOW is not “the only way to live in the present conditions and rules of our society” – MGTOW has and alway will be the only way in any society.

That was the point I was trying to make, sorry if the wording was misleading

Meister wrote:

2. Women don’t give a s~~~ whether you are short or physically fit. That’s not how their psychology works.

Women desire many things:
1. Power (the means of utility whether that be social and/or economical, this trumps everything generally)
2. Physique (instinctually it tells them you have healthy genes; it’s the same reason men like women with a good hip to bust ratio; conversely women like TALL and FIT men)
3. Money (one could argue that this falls under one but a guy can have money without power, just look at the guys who win the lottery and then have a bunch of gold diggers go after them)

I know that as soon as you can’t provide them these they will generally leave you. Obviously you haven’t tried online dating because the above are all the “requirements” every woman posts, they wont give anyone missing these the time of day.

Meister wrote:

3. I’m totaly lost with the Star Wars mumbo jumbo.

Your brother seems desperate, needy and mental. A total mangina.
The last thing he wants is a woman in his life.
Bitches eat betas like him for breakfast.

I was trying to tell you what I’ve been arguing with him about to attempt to show what it’s like to argue with him. Sorry if I ran on a tangent, I hate it when a good franchise is co-opted to fit the feminist agenda.

As for my brother, I know he’s a simp. I know bitches will suck him dry like a vampire if given the chance. The point of this forum was to hopefully get some advice to WAKE HIM THE F~~~ UP before that happens. So there you go, that outline it enough for you? Prick

I have no idea about online dating.
Looks are low priority for women. Plenty of ugly bastards have hot wives.
It’s always been that way.

Show your brother my post!

You need to explain to him that there are exactly three types of men:

1. Alphas: Women want their DNA. They end up running from alimony or they get trapped and turn into Betas.

2. Betas: They are slaves to women and children.

3. MGTOW: They are free.

Your brother needs to understand that right now he is a Beta and women do not respect Betas.
They will abuse him.

Trying to be an alpha costs a lot of effort and ultimately needs nowhere.

MGTOW is the only way to go!

Monk

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