Is there a MGTOW (sci-fi-ish) Armageddon coming?

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  • #98335
    IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)
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    Am I missing something here?  If I didn’t get the memo, and this is going to actually happen, please let me know.  Note, I don’t know a good way to express this view, or ask it, without I know offending someone.

    What I see in a number of MGTOW videos would be a MGTOW version of scifi Armageddon.  It is this sort of delightful glee that somehow there will be a mass revolt of men who will go MGTOW, get artificial wombs, produce men only and get rid of women once and for all, and all will be paradise as MGTOW lead the revolt for liberation for men.  Or, it is something like that.  I saw it pop up at least several times in a Sandman predicts a future video, and other ones also.   I say the moment artificial wombs and the equivalent of human cloning will take place (if it happens) a ton of factors will come into play, and we very likely aren’t going to get this utopia, but I can see corporations engineering humans for their workforce, and make them asexual to do work needed, and other things that will then cause the government to get involved, and possible uprisings,  which the war against gynocentrism I don’t see will be the main focus of it (but it can be seen as part of it).

    Am I missing something?  Is there some sort of MGTOW utopia after an Armageddon that will hit, that will force women to suddenly change?  Or, is there just some men around MGTOW who are in such a need to for a religious experience, they are spinning these stories of some utopian future, so they stick with MGTOW like it is a religion?  And note, I am trying to reach for the right words here on this, as I know I am going to offend someone in even trying to type this.

    I just think the future will get weird and go in ways no one expects, and I personally believe that wishing for an extreme revolution puts you at least of even odds of things getting worse.

     

    "I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

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    Zuberi Tau
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    Yes and it will be so bad that seven women will be cling to one man in order to shield themselves from the consequences of their

    narcissism.

     

     

    #98386
    RoyDal
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    Doomsday scenarios abound. Asteroid strikes, plagues, atomic war, space alien invasion like that Tom Cruise movie. My favorite is our trusted servants turn on us.

    Robot Uprisings (Vintage Original) Paperback – April 8, 2014
    by Daniel H. Wilson (Editor), John Joseph Adams (Editor)
    http://www.amazon.com/Uprisings-Vintage-Original-Daniel-Wilson/dp/0345803639/

    Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

    #98393
    Rennie
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    This very well may be the shape of things to come down the road. All here should watch, it’s quite chilling.

    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x121ctu_threads-1984-realistic-look-at-nuclear-war_shortfilms

    #98404
    Jason
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    Who knows, we might end up with a future scenario where men and women move to different planets and both reproduce (only their own gender) by way of technology, like in in the anime Vandread. In a decade or two, humanity may well get that option. Or it may go the Zentran/Meltran route, à la Macross. I kinda doubt it’ll go that far, though.

    At least, I hope not. Gratuitous space battles or not, I’d prefer not having to live under constant threat of millions-strong fleets bombarding me from orbit for having the wrong gender.

    There lies serenity in Chaos. Seek ye the eye of the hurricane.

    #98473
    Untamed
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    There’s no “glee” here, Richard, at least not from me. Doomsday scenarios abound and revelations have their say as well. You can’t discount accounts that have been proven right 99.99999% of the time.
    There’s no MGTOW movement or revolution and we’re not pretending to know how to run the world, plenty of candidates for that.
    I’m just here to chill and read all the crap that men have to go through just be allowed to exist. It’s interesting. It tells me I ain’t been nuts all that time.

    Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
    Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
    #GenderSegragationNow!

    #98551
    IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)
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    Who knows, we might end up with a future scenario where men and women move to different planets and both reproduce (only their own gender) by way of technology, like in in the anime Vandread. In a decade or two, humanity may well get that option. Or it may go the Zentran/Meltran route, à la Macross. I kinda doubt it’ll go that far, though. At least, I hope not. Gratuitous space battles or not, I’d prefer not having to live under constant threat of millions-strong fleets bombarding me from orbit for having the wrong gender.

    And that reminds me of an episode of Tripping the Rift, framed in the context of sexuality, as the show did (heterosexual sex got outlawed):

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0865282/

     

    There’s no “glee” here, Richard, at least not from me. Doomsday scenarios abound and revelations have their say as well. You can’t discount accounts that have been proven right 99.99999% of the time. There’s no MGTOW movement or revolution and we’re not pretending to know how to run the world, plenty of candidates for that. I’m just here to chill and read all the crap that men have to go through just be allowed to exist. It’s interesting. It tells me I ain’t been nuts all that time.

    What I see in the videos is almost a MGTOW version of the Christian Rapture, or what you have with the Marxism’s deterministic future.  In this, there will be some sort of revolution where the end is a utopia happening, and such is seen as “payback” for the evil forces out there.  Just believe in the movement, and we will have Paradise.  I see a ton of Doomsday scenarios out there, it is just it seems when something is an ideology, a certain one gets favored as the way that happened, and the ideology will lead to paradise favorable to the ideology.

    And with this, I thought the idea of MGTOW is that collectivists push these views, but MGTOW is going you own way and avoid marriage because of the tons of issues with it.  Practically it means bargaining for a better state in one’s own life, and just live what works, so you avoid your own personal Armageddon.

     

     

     

    "I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

    #98594
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    Practically it means bargaining for a better state in one’s own life, and just live what works, so you avoid your own personal Armageddon.

    That is the Armageddon I try to avoid, all others are out of my control. 🙂

    #98598
    IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)
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    Practically it means bargaining for a better state in one’s own life, and just live what works, so you avoid your own personal Armageddon.

    That is the Armageddon I try to avoid, all others are out of my control. :)

    Kudos there.  I can swear that some in the MGTOWosphere are secretly delighting in being able to prove they were correct in how the world would turn out… when they were dead.  I feel that is a bit pointless.  I think individuals who want that out of MGTOW should go find a religion or something, if they long for this after dead being proven right.

    "I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

    #98600
    MDawgDizMizzle
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    Don’t know how well this may be recieved by some, but I really can’t picture a world without women. Sure, there’s evolution, but I highly doubt there’d be enough time. I think with the whole cloning bit, we’d be playing God and going against our natural way of life. I do believe that MGTOW is a natural defence constructed against this horses~~~ 3rd wave feminism. I think those who believe women will crowd around men once their beloved feminism caves in on them are right. They’ll be forced to change. If they can arrest men for denying women, then… well… whole new ball game.

    #98605
    IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)
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    Don’t know how well this may be recieved by some, but I really can’t pucture a world without women. Sure, there’s evolution, but I hightlly doubt there’d be enough time. I think with the whole cloning bit, we’d be playing God and going against our natural way of life. I do believe that MGTOW is a natural defence constructed against this horses~~~ 3rd wave feminism. I think those who believe women with crowd around men once their beloved feminism caves in on them are right. They’ll be forced to change. If they can arrest men for denying women, then… well… whole new ball game.

    It is possible that the reaction to what has happened in feminism, and other factors, could result in MGTOW taking on a life of its own, for its own reasons.  The longer MGTOW goes around, the more it will develop its own identity and culture and go off on its own evolving path.  I see, even now, breaking away from the rest of the manopshere, which seems to still be fixated on women, and what women do.

    "I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

    #98790
    Bigboy83
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    The c~~~s are worried because they realize their the problem. Single men talking to other men about the benefits of being single. Recipe for disaster!

    Shit Tested, Cunt Approved.

    #101018
    Cap285
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    I’m ready.

    Fuck this planet.
    #101029
    Puffin Stuff
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    You mean a future where single men with no responsibility to anyone other than themselves, with young hot women that, for the cost of a fine meal, are one phone call away from driving to your home  and children can be had for $30,000.00 by purchasing an egg and surrogate with no need for issues of custody?

    Oh yeah, we’re already there.

    And it’s pretty kewl.

    #icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

    #101082
    IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)
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    You mean a future where single men with no responsibility to anyone other than themselves, with young hot women that, for the cost of a fine meal, are one phone call away from driving to your home and children can be had for $30,000.00 by purchasing an egg and surrogate with no need for issues of custody? Oh yeah, we’re already there. And it’s pretty kewl.

    The future I am seeing is that hell will break loose, and humanity realize it is doomed, so women must be made subject to men or we are doomed, and men will rise again.  Some have women reduced to breeding stock, with no property rights.  There is also the cloning one where the genders separate.

    "I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

    #101149
    Jon the Ex-Squid
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    I’ve seen first hand how disasters on a local/regional scale play out and its not pretty for either gender. Humans will literally do anything to save themselves and/or their children. Good men will kill if their child is starving. Women will suck dick at the drop of a dime for a bottle of water.

    Immediately after Sandy, three other technical consultants and I rented RVs and set up shop at a Wal-Mart parking lot on Long Island.  There were few locations with potable water or electricity and most hotels that were functional were full, so the RVs served as mobile offices/living spaces for us. We’d drive out to the various loss locations, do our inspections, try to figure out how to help these people get back on their feet, and then circle the wagons back at the parking lot at the end of the day. Normally we have to give the insurance companies budgets for the work.  For this, we had adjusters just calling, giving us an address, and telling us to do what we had to do. No contracts or paperwork up front at all.

    Cops came by to check on us all the time. We’d advised them of our locations and offered to help where possible, each of us being ex-military. We were all armed, the cops knew it, and not a single f~~~ was given by a man in blue. In NYC (and the outer boroughs), one of the worst gun-law cities in this country.

    During the week and a half we spent living like that, we relocated 4 times due to individuals and families (with their children) trying to break into the RVs and take what we had. I literally had women begging me to let them sleep in the RV overnight. Men with tears in their eyes begged me for bottles of water for their kids or to let them watch their favorite DVDs in the RV. I have pictures in one of my cameras. I’ll try to dig some up.

    It was 3rd world apocalyptic. Not due to the damages to buildings (there was plenty, to be sure), but due to the lack of electricity, empty store shelves, and collective fear (that gave way to anger). To be clear, this wasn’t a post-Tsunami disaster or mega-earthquake disaster. Only 11 people died. You could walk out of town. You could find food and water if you left your neighborhood. There were pockets/neighborhoods where the electricity was on.

    It was the hype by the media that made it sound like huge swaths of NY and NJ were just gone. That and the sheer mess the storm left (salty-mud waist deep in one public library I had to inspect).

    So for some, I could see the appeal of an event that “forces women to need men again”. But that’s not the kind of need I’d like directed at me. It was utterly desperate, horrified, emotionally crippled need driven by fear. At this was only a brief period outside of one of the country’s most metropolitan areas with aid workers and volunteers pouring in.

    You know what it reminded me of? A life-long heroin addict who thinks you’ve got their next hit.

    Not something I’d want to stick my dick in.

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