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Mangina has become a trendy word. It was used back in the day for men who roleplayed as women in MMORPG’s. Now it describes any effeminate male, it seems, among other things. Even confused with blue pill or white knighting.
<crotchety voice> Whyyy I ‘member back in the olden days we didn’t have the fancy broadband you young whipper snappers take for granted. We had 28.8k dialup and were DAMN GLAD to get it! </crotchety voice>
"Data, I would be delighted to offer any advice I can on understanding women. When I have some, I'll let you know." --Captain Picard,
This is how they reveal that they believe – in their hearts – that SEX is the best thing a woman has to offer.
I must be a mangina then, because I’m really hard-pressed to think of what more women offer. They don’t cook anymore (you’re “sexist,” apparently, for even expecting that), they have lower standards when working and applying for jobs, they can’t do manual labor, etc. Also, I’ve never met a woman I could depend upon the way I can depend upon a man.
So what’s left but sex? Being mothers? True, but what about me, who plan never to have children? What purpose do I have to associate with a woman if I could choose a man?
". . . elle, suivant l’usage des femmes et des chats qui ne viennent pas quand on les appelle et qui viennent quand on ne les appelle pas, s’arrêta devant moi et m’adressa la parole"—Prosper Mérimée
So now I’m confused to a what exactly a mangina is. I understand the alternate definition, that of a man taking on a female persona, but that is not the definition we are referring to here. My original take was that a mangina is essentially someone who gives into a woman’s (usually wife or GF) desires since he feels he should or must…whatever the reason may be. Now, it sounds like it’s a man who gives into a woman purely for sex only. Is the reason for giving in the primary purpose for the name, or giving in regardless of the reason enough to qualify for the ‘title’.
I reject the idea that men give into women just for sex. There are a multitude of reasons, ranging from some sense of obligation, to getting her to shut up, to avoiding conflict, avoiding consequences, to avoiding divorce, to some idea that giving in is loving, picking your battles, etc.. To say it’s all about sex is really oversimplifying it.
As far as using the actual word Mangina, I’m not going to use. No, it’s not for PC reasons. I don’t care about offending someone if it’s for the right reasons. Mangina is an insult, and it’s intend to be so. It’s meant for shock value. It ultimately is going to distract your audience (the one’s that don’t want to agree with you) from the main point you’re trying to get across. If you call someone a mangina, they aren’t going to think about whether that’s an accurate statement and evaluate their behavior, they are going to think about the insult and what kind of person you are for insulting them. It’s now about figuring out how they can return the insult and save face (hence, “you can’t get laid”). Mangina shows a lack of respect, and people don’t listen when they aren’t shown respect. So yes, you’re discussion is likely to be pointless after from then on. Perhaps that is a PC reason…whatever. If I’m bothering to have a discussion with someone about gender roles, I’m hoping to educate and be educated. I don’t want that goal derailed because of word choice.
I don’t think a term like White Knight is going to trigger the same response. I don’t think of it as an insult, even though it’s not a positive title. Maybe that’s just me.
Ok. Then do it.
Firefly which was a decent show (The main character was a white knight to a professional slut. She cried when he f~~~ed another prostitute when she showed him some real affection).
Joss Whedon is a notorious mangina. He loves to portray men as dangerous simps and give “power roles” to female characters who have no qualifications for being powerful except for having vaginas.
Mangina – a man who has such a low regard for masculinity that he may as well be a female, yet he has the ability to lend social legitimacy to feminist values by acting as a proxy and speaking and acting (sometimes violently) in support and defense of the gynocentric agenda.
Simp – an otherwise decent man who is so attached to a female or to the notion of an idealized female that he will do anything up to and including selling out his brothers in order to win the favor of one.
I must be a mangina then, because I’m really hard-pressed to think of what more women offer.
Oh, it’s not that this understanding of females’ true value is incorrect… this is precisely their true value… it’s just that they claim to have so much more to offer but then when it comes time to punish or taunt men, its all about the sex. OP was merely pointing out the fact that regardless of what they say, in their hearts they know this is all they really have that is worth a damn to us.
I’d prefer the term, “Dirty coward,” because this is a person who throws other men under the bus because afraid of either not getting laid or losing female approval.
Yeah i think its more fitting. Rolls off the tongue better too.
Here’s an idea. You don’t like the term? Then f~~~ off. You can join with all your other white knights and mangina buddies and dance around a pedestal with women on top of it. Then nobody can accuse you of being “childish” because you are supplicating to your masters correctly. If you honestly, seriously think the word “childish” means anything, you would just get married, slave away 80 hours at work, and turn over all your cash to your female master. That is what “men”, that is “grown men” have been doing for decades after all. You don’t want to associate with us “childish” losers that go our own way and make fun of you for that.
F~~~ you, man. Childish does mean something. It doesn’t stop meaning something just because they exploit the word. In fact its what they do best. My point is we’re not them. You wanna tell me i’m not welcome here? F~~~ing great. I go my own way, which is not to conform to your stupid f~~~ing club, its MY own way, however the f~~~ I want to do it and i want to represent myself with a lexicon that captures the depth of my character and doesn’t stoop to petty jabs when the truth is ever so more biting. I don’t like that word. I’m not going to say it. You’re welcome to live your life the way you want to but don’t you EVER tell me what my way is. I was going my own way long before there was a MGTOW.
One thing the GTOW part of MGTOW would be harmed by is if there is some sort of “code of identity” that needs to be rigidly followed. Maybe the end will be different flavors of MGTOW, to just maintain the peace.
Seriously though. I held off from joining MGTOW because i always assumed going my own way was what i was supposed to be doing and it only ever felt like a countermovement to an already pointless movement. In the end i’m pretty sure most guys on this site don’t even have an endgame in mind or a set of criteria of what they expect to see once they’ve achieved their goals. It may end up just as rampant and out of control as feminism. But in the current day, they take the fact that going their own way isn’t accepted by the broader public, and fume about it, rather than celebrating actually having a safe place for once where they ARE supported. I’m here because being bitter is the last thing i want to do and i’m sick of giving women the satisfaction. Honestly i feel like pretty soon, going my own way will be “away from this website”.
Mangina has become a trendy word.
See i think thats part of the reason i hate it. Especially if it came from some kind of trolling netspeak bullcrap. Trendy s~~~ is always such bull crap. MGTOW is the furthest thing from fashionable now and we shouldn’t aspire to be. Look at the other things that are fashionable, f~~~ing internet memes, and whatever rant Kanye West is on lately. These are all the things i’m trying to separate myself from. I much prefer the word “trick” cause its been around for years and you’re only a trick if you’re being tricked by some hoes. Sure, its evolved (if you can call it that) over the years, from regular whores and their tricks to attention whores and their tricks, but the sentiment is the same. Some idiot is dumb enough to fall for it and the hoes own his ass.
I prefer the term “femorrhoid”. Paints a pretty accurate mental picture of a boy who attaches himself to a female’s anal sphincter and gets repeatedly shat upon, but refuses to let go.
This should come into practice immediately. Put some cream on those femorrhoids
Mangina isn’t a child word. You probably thinking politically incorrect. F~~~ POLITICAL CORRECTNESS. It isn’t close to being childish word, it describes a man that lost his dick and b~~~~.
Political correctness is the least of my concerns. I hate how you think having the slightest bit of sensibility is somehow “giving in” to them. You do realize there are no women here to control me, right? I choose my words carefully because i want to express things better. Not because i butcher my words. I want to say what i mean, not just what works to hurt their feelings.
Anonymous14THIS IS WHAT A MANGINA LOOKS LIKE!
That’s the great David Furrytail owner of IgotFifthBasedByAMammothOnce.com 😀
Anonymous11Thanks Triklops for reminding me of David Futrelle. I try to blot him out as much as possible. Yes, that is exactly what a mangina looks like.
My understanding of Mangina is along the lines of a feminized slave that relinquishes his rights to a masculine identity, no longer preserves and protects his own sovereignty, according to his own best interests. He accepts gynocentric propaganda to seek approval from women who he sees as superior to men. He serves women in an attempt to gain favor, all the while oblivious to how he is being used as a utility. He BELIEVES in gynocentric principles, and is totally UNAWARE of being a manipulated mangina. He knows no better, he is a high % of all husbands, especially in the gynocentric western culture.
I think the identification of the mangina is important, not as a “shame” tactic, its beneficial for our understanding of how some men behave, and the reasons behind that behavior. Also for how the feminine imperative gets away with its hypergamous, and duplistic sexual strategy, and where it gets its power. Without the mangina, there would be far less male support, and the feminine would quickly find itself on the short end of Hippocraticism (Aka Feminism).
For me mangina is a fundamental core charateristic, that other traits are built upon, like “White Knighting”.
I think the better question is:
“Is the Alpha thing really necessary?”
When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan
Google the video “How can she slap.”
That should tell you everything you need to know about the kind of men we are talking about.
If it doesn’t then nothing I could say would mean anything.
Gynocentrism at its most despicableness.
frankly my dear i don't give a damn
F~~~ you, man. I go my own way, which is not to conform to your stupid f~~~ing club, its MY own way, however the f~~~ I want to do it and i want to represent myself with a lexicon that captures the depth of my character and doesn’t stoop to petty jabs when the truth is ever so more biting. I don’t like that word. I’m not going to say it. You’re welcome to live your life the way you want to but don’t you EVER tell me what my way is.
The Butthurt is strong with this one.
Okay, so nobody can tell you what words you should and shouldn’t use. Fine. But you can’t get all “going-my-own-f~~~ing-way” on us right after arguing that a word other men choose to use is childish. I mean for real, didn’t you just say other people shouldn’t be using the word because it’s trendy or whatever? That knife cuts both ways.
You don’t like the word mangina then don’t use it. You want to explain to other people why you don’t like it, fine. You want to accuse other people of being fraudulent for using it? Now you’ve started some s~~~ and then you want to end it by saying other people can’t tell you what’s right and wrong for you. That’s just bulls~~~.
By all means, go your own way, man… but don’t call other people out for going theirs too. I like the word mangina. I don’t care if it’s trendy or sounds childish to you. To me the word “trick” sounds like you’re trying to be Huggy Bear from f~~~ing Starsky and Hutch. But by all means, say it if you like, it’s none of my damn business how you speak. We’re talking about the same s~~~ and that’s all that really matters.
They say: “you can’t get laid”. This is how they reveal that they believe – in their hearts – that SEX is the best thing a woman has to offer.
Semantic argument aside, this is a fantastic point. Thank you, Keymaster, for your eloquence and wisdom.
Thanks Doc! After hearing it SO MANY TIMES , i forced myself to really think about it. Where does this “you can’t get laid” statement come from?!!!
Because:
1. “getting laid” is not a challenge or difficult. If anything, it’s about the damn EASIEST thing to get from a woman today. What I have difficulty finding is a woman who doesn’t burn water when she makes tea. Now THAT’S a challenge.
2. I shagged more than my share of chicks due to much exposure to boatloads of females in my once line of work, and I don’t see it as “valuable” as something worth withholding. Withhold something ELSE! your vagina will not make me come back to you for more. But something much simpler will! Most women have no idea what that is… and I sure as hell won;t give it away here too easily I can tell you that. The least a woman can do is close her legs long enough to f~~~ing figure it out.
Ask a woman “the way to a man’s heart” and you know what she will say?
“Oh that’s easy! Just feed him and f~~~ him!” but it’s bulls~~~, because women like that get dumped all the time.I have NO idea why women wield their vaginas (and access to it) like an epée.
Thanks Triklops for reminding me of David Futrelle. I try to blot him out as much as possible. Yes, that is exactly what a mangina looks like.
That’s EXACTLY the first person I think of when I hear “mangina”.
Dude is sporting a nice pair of man t~~~ himself too.If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Today… yes, just today, a woman on Twitter tweeted that she wanted to see a picture of “MGTOW.COM” (our twitter account). She actually demanded a personal photo. When one of us explained there are four people with access to that twitter account, we asked her “who’s picture do you want, exactly”???
She says “the admin of this account. I assume that’s one person”.
We said “NO this is a twitter account for a WEBSITE. Hence the dot com. Do you ask the New York Times twitter account to send you a photo of “HIM”?”
Bitch realized how stupid she sounded and started reaching for a lifeline. Maybe she needed to phone a friend because she immediately started on the deflections. We all knew why she did it, because she thought “you can’t get laid” too. Now we all know what that means, exactly. Except, I once was asked for a photo when I Facebook timeline’d a message that one bitch thought was “misogyny”… and she asked for a photo too. “I want to see what you really look like!!” ( Like that had anything to do with anything)
So I sent her a friend request so she could check me out.
She accepted it, checked me out, and immediately blocked me.She wanted to shame me as being some kind of hideous ogre / neck-beard MRA.
I guess I was too good looking for her… and she ran screaming for the hills.So the next time anyone suggests “you can’t get laid”…. everyone here knows EXACTLY where it comes from and what it means. You actually have to explain to grown women – like an infant – that looks, marital status, age, gender and race play no role in the merit of an argument. But all they think about is their vagina.. and how you “can’t get any” like it’s the goddam end of the world. Imagine thinking your PENIS is the be all and end all of EVERYTHING, and “the truth” doesn’t exist simply because you own one. That is the level of crazy you’re dealing with.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.“Is the mangina thing really necessary?” It’s rapidly spreading and it’s effective therefore, “yes.”
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"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."
Mangina’s are typically men that sympathize with feminists and will backtrack and cower when they say or type something a women disapproves of. They might as well have a vagina, because they tend to act like an annoying woman. Hence Man + Vagina = Mangina.
The Children of Doom... Doom's Children. They told my lord the way to the Mountain of Power. They told him to throw down his sword and return to the Earth... Ha! Time enough for the Earth in the grave.As an afterthought (this has turned out to be quite an interesting topic!)…. “mangina” isn’t really an insult.
It’s just “MAN” + “VAGINA”.
Anyone who perceives it as an insult actually doesn’t think very highly of women – or vaginas. Dead giveaway.
I knew a girl in 1993 who was a very close friend of a girlfriend of mine. She was the most “feminist” girl I ever knew back then. She was very smart, very funny (generally a rare quality in women – she was outstandingly hilarious) and when I criticized my ex-girlfriend for something totally uncalled for, she introduced me to the word: “misogynist”. I remember hearing it for the first time – from her. “What’s that?” I said. I thought she was talking about a MASSAGE. But then she explained it means I “hate women”. So I explained to her that I only hated what she DID. I would have hated it if a guy did it to me too. Doesn’t mean I “hate men”. So it seems she wasn’t that smart after all.
Anyway… fast forward 18 years back when I was on Facebook, and I found out, she was one of the stars in a regional play “the Vagina Monologues”. This is a feminist script that consists of a cast of women who talk about vaginas – and every thing about them – for 2 hours. On her Facebook page , it was “come see the vagina monologues tonight!”…. and “Opening night of the Vagina Monologues”.
So I had some fun with her and I used the word “vagina” in a sentence. She reacted negatively. VERY. As if I insulted her, and she unleashed a misandrist rant on my ass I wish I kept as a souvenir. I actually had to point out to her that nothing I said about “vagina” was negative. Only her PERCEPTION of it.
Let me repeat. A star in the “vagina monologues” was offended at a MAN’s use of the word “vagina” in a sentence.
Between the two os us…. SHE is the real “misogynist”.
She interprets the use of the word “vagina” in – even a neutral context – as “misogyny”.If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.LOL IM over the hump.The last two women I did for an extended period of time,I pumped and dumped. Neither of them wanted to wait a week to get me between the sheets and both of them I respected while we were doing what we did.I did actually like them but I didnt love them and left them because I had to go somewhere else to make $$$bills to pay bills and it left both of them very disappointed. Honestly pussy has lost its allure to the point its no longer a lure worth persuing.
Either way it’s just not as good as when I was young and really soo in love along side the lust.
It would have been harder on me to leave them if they had taken the time to know me for me and for me to know them.
I had two more relationships that didn’t get that far and I thought I really wanted to get to know them at a really deep level but then when I started to know them I discovered that I really didn’t. That really did hurt.Two people that I thought were really real people really weren’t. Ended with a real sour note in both cases for both of us and for me with a lot of disgust. <span style=”line-height: 1.5;”>Between the two of them were some FWBs and that just got old when one of them felt she was entitled to be more then Friends With Benefits and she confronted another girl about us.Right then and there I made up my mind that all three of them were going to go on without me.I changed my phone #.</span>
I have come to see that there is more to be for me than than just sex.Far more like personality. But a good ,decent caring affectionate honest personality is something I have yet to see in any of those so called lady’s.
All of them lied to me.Excuse me for having standards.
On top of that i don’t require that my socks fit so tight ( know wat i mean?)that they cut off my circulation but Damn do women still know how to do Keggel exercises? It does count fyi.
All and all I have been around the block again and again and it’s really just gotten old.Old ,worn out and boring. Especially when I can easily imagine having Mercedes Carria on the couch ,on the bed,on the floor, over my lap with her panties at her knees. Come on ladys how many can compete with that?Badonkadonk!Women have vibrators and 50 shades and I have Mercedes.
She will never cost me a cent and never call and ask me where I am.
After having known enough women I just don’t want to know any more.
Every woman I have been with has been a disappointment either in bed out of bed or both.
So good for them if i don’t get laid.After all I have been through I’m guaranteed to be a dissapointment.
Can’t get laid??That very un ladylike.That’s some real internalized women hating.Very crass and low class,but I have to consider the source.
I thought only prostitutes saw themselves like that.
What ever the price I’m just not willing to put up the effort. Not even $5, not 5c .Sorry.
frankly my dear i don't give a damn
Men that defend women no matter what they do or say.Like as if women are not people who do wrong like everyone else.
Don’t need friends like that.
frankly my dear i don't give a damn
I using words necessary ?
Is creating threads really necessary ?
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