Is MGTOW a Threat to Society?

[Eric LauderParticipant 12043]

TaxGuy wrote:

Men make 60% of the money but only account for 20% of the spending. Women make 40% of the money but account for 80% of the spending.

If men don’t support women, 40% of the economy vanishes. Some of it will get replaced and some of it won’t. Men save money, women don’t.

So, let’s say 40% of the economy, made up of make-up, hairdressers, shoes, magazines, candles, boxed wine, kitty litter and Ben & Jerry’s gets replaced by 20% spent on beer, sports, and videogames.

I guess whether or not you consider us a threat depends on if you work for the candle company or the videogame company.

Boat industry and insurances benefitted from me going my own way:
Just after the separation the very first thing I did was a additional retirement fund.
Then I bought a boat, used.
Then I changed the boat with a new model, new and slightly larger.
If I would make a lot of money I would buy the largest boat that can be used by a single person and that money can buy.

I plan to make a new bathroom in my home, but I need to wait, I’m saving money for it: I want it being fully covered with green material mimicking jade, I want a VERY large rain shower, and a Jacuzzi much larger than what I have now (what I have now is a minor brand, quite small, with few jets).

How that can be hurting for the economy?

Truth is that men consume, but tend to consume durable things: the most “frivolous” is indeed the boat, but even a boat lasts, if properly maintained, no less than 20 years, usually more. Quite different from changing the iPhone every year, like my ex wife do.

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[Anonymous 42]

Tic wrote:

Exactly. The only thing I owe society is to be a decent citizen.

The only “decent citizen” is now a “SOVEREIGN CITIZEN” f~~~ playing for the team that’s out to utterly destroy me!

PAYBACK IS A F~~~ING BITCH!

[GregB0Participant]

The below could easily be chapter headings for a new book on life and would be very difficult for any woman to dispute in an intelligent conversation.

Modern Day Warrior wrote:

I suspect most guys continue to make significant contributions to society after they take the red pill. I, for one, still work my ass off. That means I pay a lot of taxes. The work that I do itself makes society a better place. So how is me going my own way a bad thing? All I’m saying is I won’t get married or live with a woman. My life. My choice. Why should anyone even care?

Anonymous wrote:

lol society has spent decades telling me “society doesn’t owe you s~~~!” and now I’m turning around and saying “I don’t owe you s~~~ either!”

Anonymous wrote:

If I’m so important that I can destroy the natural order of things just by doing nothing

Anonymous wrote:

You are a terrible threat to THEIR corrupt system.

PistolPete wrote:

Any man who rejects the social order and keeps his $$$ for his own welfare is by definition a threat to women who week to control that $$$.

MGTOW Knight wrote:

We are the men who know we can never truly break away from the system, nor can we change the system. However, we can choose to disregard the system. The system may be able to mitigate our sense of autonomy, but we have our unshackled consciousness; the system fears this. For this knowledge allows us to see the truth, and by spreading this truth we can liberate more men.

Pedal, run, row wrote:

Once the tipping point has been reached and it is fully understood that the system can not be protected, then changes will be made. Only then, and only as little change as possible to get enough people working in the system to make the whole thing tenable again.

TaxGuy wrote:

Men make 60% of the money but only account for 20% of the spending. Women make 40% of the money but account for 80% of the spending.

If men don’t support women, 40% of the economy vanishes. Some of it will get replaced and some of it won’t. Men save money, women don’t.

Eric Lauder wrote:

When a society feels threatened by a bunch of men who simply wants to live their life and not having a partner, then society is already crumbling, totally decadent.

Eric Lauder wrote:

The real threat to the crumbling marriage-based society come from women being hypergamous, refusing to commit to men who earn less than them. This is going to make marriage contract rare and rarer,

Eric Lauder wrote:

More could be said, about how DV policies are basically against men, totally ignoring male victims, sometimes even jailing male victims, even more coud be said about other matters, but the two points above are the major problem for the crumbling marriage-based society.

Tic wrote:

Exactly. The only thing I owe society is to be a decent citizen.

Tic wrote:

We all know marriage is big business:

Old Rottweiler wrote:

You can’t be blamed for not playing a game that is rigged against you. You would be REALLY stupid to play once you know the present rules and players. All MGTOW is doing is informing others of the truth.

PistolPete wrote:

I forget who it was but someone on this site some time ago stated that MGTOW men are the mountains that women can’t climb.

​"​My father didn't tell me how to live; he lived, and let me watch him do it.​" - Clarence Buddinton Kelland

[joetechParticipant]

If we’re all losers, why would they care in the first place? Because they know damn well that it’s a lie. Women are the ones complaining that we’ve checked out of their system, not men. That leaves blue pilled simps and manginas in a target rich environment. As more and more boys grow into men in this society, more and more men will walk away from the system whether they join the forum or not. Women and feminists in general are the threat to the system, not us. They created these misandrist gynocentric laws that have made men walk away for the sake of self preservation. For every MGTOW member here, there are ten more men who have gotten the message and are doing their own thing. Every false DV allegation converts another man and five of his associates who see the sham for what it is. Let the women cry in their wine. When they’re in their 60’s and 70’s and most of the men have died off, the rest of us will be shunning them.

"Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."

[bladeParticipant]

I liked the comments section

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[Freeman_KParticipant 3524]

We are threat, threat to the gynocentric orwellian society without personal freedoms or privacy. Indebted hive mind clusterf~~~. To that we are threat.

Most of people are anyway docile and complete cowards. Which i find funny and also sad because obviously this are weaker genes than courage that propelled us to the top of the food chain.

But, since we live in pretty f~~~ed up times i prefer to not be on the side of conformist cucks, manginas and other degenerates.

The choices we make, not the chances we take, determine our destiny

[BrainPilotParticipant 7640]

Once upon a time in the Old Testament, Jews were slaves in Egyptian society. They wanted to get out of that s~~~ and they did. Were they a ‘threat’ to that society? Well, they left and thousands of years later, Egypt is still there. Blacks were once slaves in the southern United States. Some escaped to freedom. The rest were freed by a war. They didn’t go anywhere, and yet the southern United States remain, just as does Egypt.

As I see it, the only threat to society presented by an escaping slave is the threatened loss of some unearned revenue for the particular slice of society (slave owners) that benefited from owning the slave. Anyone else in society who supports themselves doesn’t have much reason to care about an escaped slave of whom they had no ownership and from whom they got no benefit. When the slave escapes, the former owner suffers, but society continues, albeit in a restructured form.

Whenever I hear someone having a meltdown saying that mgtow are a threat to society, I suspect it’s an owner, or an aspiring wanna-be owner trying to recruit the neutral non-owners in society to their cause. Perhaps they are hoping to frighten everyone else into thinking that the escaped slave is a threat to everyone else’s society in addition to the owner’s little slice of it.

My response, (if I bothered to respond): “How exactly does that empty chair/emtpy handcuffs threaten you?”.

Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

[NerdTunnelerParticipant]

Because an empty chair is a threat? LOL

I stand with feet apart and let my balls hang free...Manginas dont have balls...See how they stand and sit at the whim of their masters...

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

PistolPete wrote:

what I find interesting is the apparent contradiction on the part of those attacking MGTOW. On the one hand they claim men are all useless, evil sex perverts who contribute nothing to society—we’re toxic. Logically this would mean our abstention from their society would be a good thing…right?

Right on point Pete. The logical in anyone would see this.

Yet we can smell their fear.
Therefore, we know all those negative names used were really intended to shame us back, not to describe us or drive us away.
Why? It’s simple.
Men like us have value.
Simps are worthless because they sit idle waiting for orders begging for pussy. Chads are worthless because they use manipulation to beg for pussy. Both hog resources without creating or putting back. Only the disciplined, even-tempered man who begs to no pussy creates wealth, infrastructure and stability. He is reliable, stable and trustworthy. Hence he has value. That’s why their afraid. The man with value, the one they exploited, is the one going MGTOW. The man they need the most won’t pull the plow any longer.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[GnosticParticipant 2491]

Anonymous wrote:

In the short-term….

In the long-term….

Not if we don’t get serious and face facts that the less children we have, the less influence we will have. What better way to influence the next generation than to start right at home. Start at the very place where most people don’t get any training…AT THE HOME, WITH THE FATHER. Now I understand extenuating circumstances with the women, but that’s the point right now. What i’m speaking on is simple, children need fathers. Now would you rather a strong father figure like the guys here raise children, or would you rather the f~~~~~ liberals tell the kids they can choose their own gender while they have sex ed in 1st grade??? Sounds like a simple decision to me.

Don’t worry, as long as the slave contract exist they will birth new MGTOW and increase our influence.

Even if they find a way to kill us all and wipe out the history of MGTOW, as long as the gynocentric society exist, MGTOW will be rediscovered. Just like we rediscover the Roman empire MGTOW.

Worry about yourself.

There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Modern Day Warrior wrote:

They rant about family breakdowns and how we’re f~~~ing with the natural order of things.

MGTOW are a symptom of social collapse, not a cause. Blaming MGTOW for the breakdown fo the nuclear family is like blaming the smoke for a fire.

Modern Day Warrior wrote:

Why should anyone even care?

As hard as you are working now, you would have to work even harder, producing even more largess for them, if you had a court enforced monkey on your back (a.k.a. a wife) pushing you to ever greater output.

Modern Day Warrior wrote:

Somebody recently assured me that “you’ll meet someone when you least expect it.”

They say the same thing about being killed by snipers. Going Your Own Way is simply situational awareness. It will save your life.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

Modern Day Warrior wrote:

They rant about family breakdowns and how we’re f~~~ing with the natural order of things.

When women stop expecting 10-15 years of whoring around before marriage and the state stops destroying men in divorce courts maybe I’d give a f~~~ about the “natural order” of things. If they just want to sit back and say I’m not holding up my end of the bargain while nobody else is either why should I care?

[BeerParticipant 11832]

BrainPilot wrote:

Whenever I hear someone having a meltdown saying that mgtow are a threat to society, I suspect it’s an owner, or an aspiring wanna-be owner trying to recruit the neutral non-owners in society to their cause.

Case in point…how many articles have been posted about women not being able to find worthy men to marry while I’ve yet to see one in the mainstream media about men not being able to find good women.

It seems pretty obvious to me its a woman’s issue because they are losing their slaves while men are just like f~~~ it…video games and porn are a much better standard of living than a marriage.

[Pedal, run, rowParticipant]

Beer wrote:

Case in point…how many articles have been posted about women not being able to find worthy men to marry while I’ve yet to see one in the mainstream media about men not being able to find good women.

That is a very good point.
If it is mentioned at all it is with derision and laughter.

A video was posted here of a woman discussing online dating. At one point she mentions: “Of course the women are not interested in the truck driver from Perth!” and women can be heard laughing.
The guy could be a total hard working, good guy… but he doesn’t deserve consideration for love. But these same c~~~s will shame and attack him if he goes MGTOW!

[Zuberi TauParticipant 10606]

There are far greater threats to society than a remnant of men taking their wallets and walking away from the table!

[Big BossParticipant 4496]

Modern Day Warrior wrote:

how we’re f~~~ing with the natural order of things.

What we are really f~~~ing with is the gynocentric order. Let that s~~~ burn hot.

[NoMoreParticipant 1233]

If they attack you, while you harm no one, you must be doing something right.

It’s human nature to want control, whether physical or emotional, over someone. Control may seem a strong word, but at its end, that is what this is. People want to know that they can affect the emotions of another. That lets the first person know that the other in some part cares about them. This is why when you break up with or divorce someone and after the initial shock has subsided, this person will still try to test you emotionally. They’ll either ask you over for one more romp under the sheets or accidentally break or throw away somethin you cherished. Emotional manipulation is control.

The worst hopelessness is to feel you have no control. MGTOW means no longer giving them any control. Their vitriol and attempts at seduction are met with apathy. If she can’t get you aroused, angry, or sad, she is left empty and hollow without your emotional response.

Ignore the articles and videos as much as possible, but do share them, as needed, for others to learn. Refrain from commenting to further instigate them. Turning their YouTube comment section into a discussion board only encourages people. For them, earning fame and up votes is more important than learning. Riling up MGTOWs who swarm to defend themselves adds to this.

What are we defending ourselves from in this regard? They knowingly misrepresent and/or lie because they hope someone will post a counter, begin an avalanche of back and forth, and bring more popularity. Just ignore them.

Going your own way means just that. By arguing with them about how this or that is incorrect, you are demonstrating that you care what and how these people think and view you. You have just acceded some control to them. What did you gain from that argument, nothing. How did they benefit, more views, posts, and a smug awareness that you care about what they think.

Perhaps a few decades in the future, if this movement continues, a larger group of people will begin to wonder why men are going their own way. They seem content and happy. One of them will then honestly ask, “Why did you go your own way?” and then listen. One of our sons or grandsons will respond, “Because when we felt we were being mistreated, we were called chauvinists, sexists, and weak. When we called out the unjust treatment we received, we were told to man-up, that’s the way it is, or just ignored. When we tried to talk about our movement, we were called fat, sexless, unloveable, basement dwellers.”

So, just go your own way. Avoid ceding your control.

A co-worker recently told me, "If you want to see who someone really is, divorce them." I have found out how true this is. When your wife drops the façade of being the caring partner, you will witness all of the greed, hate, and spite that she has masked. It is truly breathtaking!

[Sandancer37Participant 61]

Carnage wrote:

“you’ll meet someone when you least expect it.”

I get that all time, or “You never know what’s round the corner”

I just smile knowingly now, I used to say “No you misunderstand…” but got sick of explaining myself and thought I don’t need to explain myself to anyone.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Beer wrote:

how many articles have been posted about women not being able to find worthy men to marry while I’ve yet to see one in the mainstream media about men not being able to find good women.

Because it’s dog bites man.

It’s partly because there’s no point in writing articles about the lack of good women, because everyone already knows they don’t exist (even if they won’t admit it).

Mostly, though, it’s because men are the prize, not women. Just as industry runs on oil and economies run on gold, it’s men, not women, who are the engine and resource upon which our society runs. There is a reason why the current prices of gold and oil are very closely covered in the financial pages of every serious newspaper. Meanwhile the lifestyle sections of those same papers will never have articles on any shortage of women, and for the exact same reason the financial section doesn’t bother to track the market price of dirt.

[phoenixgod1995Participant 3352]

MGTOW is not a threat to society. Society is a threat to itself by allowing itself to become gynocentric. Society is already putting itself at risk by putting emotions over logic. Whenever a woman is in court for a crime that she committed, she puts on the crocodile tears, tries to play the victim card, and hopes that the court system will fall for it. If the court does not fall for it, then the media labels that court as sexist. If the courts started using logic and looking at the evidence rather than worrying about what the public image would be, then society would start to see that the courts are more concerned for what is right.

Society sees MGTOW as a threat because we are breaking away from the norm and the system. Like Old Rottwieler is saying “MGTOW is merely showing people the truth.”

The system is indeed rigged against men, but the system can’t f~~~ you over if you don’t play into their games. All men want to do is live their life as single individuals and enjoy their wealth, accomplishments, and their work.

It’s common sense for a male. If a game is rigged, don’t play it. The only reason why women aren’t doing anything even though they claim they fight for equal rights is because they are worried that if they do, they will end up losing whatever advantages they have over men. Women do not want to love men, they want to control men and the government favors women because of how much women spend. Pretty much Society will sink like the F~~~ing Titanic because they are too focused on women rather than equality.

Marriage and Divorce for a man is like getting a cactus shoved up your ass. It’s painful with all the spines that go in and it is painful getting all the spines out, meanwhile Wifey gets most of the money, your home, your kids, and practically everything you own.

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