Is it weird to think having kids is overrated and to have no desire to have any?

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

I have a 19 year old son and his mom left when he was 9 months. I fought for him in court and won every case. When his mom bought a house in Hawaii, he dumped me, called the cops on me and was at his mom’s house in 3 days.

Even if you win you lose. Now I’m allowed by this 19 year old to call him once a week. He can or cannot return the phone call. He never ever initiates a phone call.

When we speak it is very superficial and there is no feeling there like children I know or I was as a child.

If you have children you have a 50% chance of burdening them with a divorce during their formative years 90% initiated by your loving wife. You will eventually be kicked from their lives for the new boyfriend. Mom will see to that if it’s to her benefit.

You have a 50% chance of being able to barely tolerate this woman, most marriages that stay together.

So you have a 75% chance of giving these children a f~~~ed up childhood in our current situation.

Would you love your children? Then why would you put them through this.

I see the damage it has done to my son and blame my own selfish desire for a child.

I blame myself.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[Lone Wolf83Participant 825]

Never had any desire to have children which is why I invested in getting a vasectomy. This was solidified when I was in nursing school and saw live births in the hospital, spending time in a daycare of various age groups etc.

If it has tits or tires, you know you're going to have problems.

[Anonymous 1]

Having kids will put you at the will of the defamily court system. A system of the pain and extractor of wealth.

[WPLParticipant 2390]

Chris1234 wrote:

I had no desire to have kids when I was in my 20’s and I thought I would change and want to settle down when I hit 35. Now I’m 36 I look at friends who have kids and it doesn’t really interest me. The older I get the less appealing it is. I have nephews and nieces which is perfect for me.
I’m fortunate that I have aunts and uncles who are in their 80s, some with kids and some with no kids. The ones without kids certainly aren’t less happy. They sound like they have lived fulfilled lives, they have retired early (50s), traveled the world and have never been short of money to do things that make them happy. I actually enjoy their company more to a degree as their life stories are much more entertaining. I have one uncle whos wife has major medical issues and his kids (my cousins) do nothing to help him. So having kids doesn’t always guarantee they will be there to help you when you are older.

I’m about your age, and I feel the same way — I knew in my 20s that I wasn’t ready for the burdens that having kids imposes (and my now ex-wife said she wasn’t ready either… funny how that changed when she hit the wall, left me, and got knocked up by an unemployed high-school dropout with two kids already, but I digress). When I got into my early 30s, I felt that I could handle having kids if I wanted to, but I simply didn’t want them. Now, in my late 30s, I’m enjoying my peaceful life too much to even consider kids. I look at my friends — some a little younger and some a bit older — and while I see in them moments of happiness, I mostly see struggle. Financial, mental, and emotional struggle. The parents become like zombies. They try to use their single friends — try to guilt them into babysitting for free (“little Billy always has so much fun with you; can you watch him so that I can go out?). Um, nope — I’m gonna watch Spaceghost and fart around in the shop. Sorry.

[Emperor HeracliusParticipant 317]

Let’s see what it entails:

-Changing diapers and hearing god awful screaming at 4am in the morning
-Driving around to countless doctor visits and mall runs so the wife can do baby-shopping.
-The cost of education. Think how much college will cost 18 years from now….college has grown more expensive in such a short period of time and the cost is outpacing anything else.
-The very high chance your child will be brainwashed by the liberal/leftist social engineering going on in all public schools.
-Paying for higher cost of living in general for raising the kid (higher doctor visits, food costs, etc).
-What little sex life exists will disappear once the wife pops out the kid (this has been confirmed by many married men that I have talked to. The kid takes priority over anytime that is good for f~~~ing).
-The risk that the kid can grow up to be a degenerate, drug user, gangbanger, social justice warrior, woman’s rights protester, or any other current strain on society. The bombardment of social engineering from education and the media does not help.

Sign me up!

"Admit no woman to the imperial councils. Be accessible to no one. Share with few your most intimate plans."

[It’sallbsParticipant]

No of course it isn’t but the women, manginas and the system want to shame you into thinking it is.

http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

[Sam RavenParticipant 181]

The ‘family line’ reason is interesting as it is still a major reason in Asian culture to get married and have kids.

Given my father was a narcissistic psychopath and my mother a manipulative psychotic bitch, I am doing the world a favor by terminating this bloodline, ‘tradition’ be damned.

I believe in the idea of the soul being the driver and the body is just the vehicle, i.e. the body that carried my ancestor’s genetics, is not the real me. And as someone explained above, the genetics get dissolved over time. No obligation to perpetuate what I see as a mistake that is the existence of my dysfunctional family.

+60% of all men who ever lived on Earth never had kids.

Explains the increase in retards around me. The dumbf~~~s/chavs breed the most.

Not having kids means at 34 years of age I can come on here every night and talk s~~~ with some above-average intelligent men, use vulgarities when I feel like it, and still get enough sleep. Something which some beta-simp f~~~~~ with a family can’t do.

Another main reason I would like to add for not wanting to have kids is the way civilization is going. Someone mentioned World War 3.

When I mention ‘civilization’ I mean the lack of guidance with our science and technology. We are wasting money on miniature machines and obsessing with working in a mindset of scarcity with this green environment bulls~~~ and carbon taxes when water vapor is the strongest green house gas.

Making safe use of nuclear fusion and global use of desalination of sea water to make electrical energy and water supply abundant and cheap should have been achieved by this time. Current funding of nuclear fusion is at half a billion a year, ridiculously low considering this has the potential to take civilization to the next revolution in technology.

Meanwhile our dependence on oil has led the world to get involved in Middle East bulls~~~ politics with multi-trillion dollar wars, soldiers wasted needlessly as cannon fodder, and all the related problems.

Meanwhile going to space, colonizing the Moon and expanding our knowledge and tech is seen as a ‘waste of money’. When we do have advancements in technology, its not widespread use of 300 mile per gallon engines, but smartass phones for dumbass muthaf~~~ers planting their faces in them, or brain-microwaving Wifi radiation.

TL;DR – civilization’s priorities are messed up big time.

The best part of it all is most of the world’s population are in some form of mind control, going along with the above. With this giant clusterf~~~ and a bleak future, would one really want to bring kids into this world? Bloody insane.

[Anonymous 3]

I always felt that kids were a burden to me. I don’t really like kids at all. When I see someone else’s kids, I always think they are just annoying. I know it’s different when they are your own kids but I don’t want to find out. I only care about my sovereignty and kids would jeopardize that.

[MagusParticipant 424]

Anonymous wrote:

Having kids will put you at the will of the defamily court system. A system of the pain and extractor of wealth.

Very good point. Like volunteering to play Russian Roulette. Best let others raise kids. Those who don’t mind being dragged through the mud.

[Joey AlfioParticipant]

Sam Raven wrote:

Explains the increase in retards around me. The dumbf~~~s/chavs breed the most.

Doesn’t get any truer than this.

Δεν υπάρχει τίποτε αδύνατο γι’ αυτόν που θα προσπαθήσει. - Μέγας Αλέξανδρος

[SamsquanchParticipant 4226]

I used to think I wanted them in my mid to late 20’s. But after a rash of toxic female nature, and MGTOW.com I realized I’m just a utility anyway. If the broad doesn’t get a kid from me, she’ll get it from the next dumb guy.

A friend of mine thought he was in love, knocked up a girl, then once the baby was born, she literally cut off all communication with him. He had to get a lawyer. That story is another reason why I don’t want them, it’s not even worth the risk.

It’s not weird at all that you don’t want kids. Listen to your gut about this. Once I started listening to my gut, I realized I valued my solitude, silence, and the money I earn.

[GrumpyParticipant]

No
Its perfectly natural.
Personally, and I am going to be perfectly selfish here, If I had to do life all over again. I would never get married or impregnate anyone. PERIOD.
I would maintain an aloof life style and save as much money and assets as I could, and actually enjoy life instead of busting my ass to support someone else.

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

[RASmanParticipant 1994]

Of those who do want children; they shouldn’t. Too many screwed up wackos have kids and they grow up just as wacko, or worse. Family name goes away if you have daughters, bloodline just gets polluted and why would you want to bring some poor kid into this world as it is? They’d be outnumbered by the “Lord of the Flies” type kids born of the human debris the welfare state is funding. If they survive the playground, they won’t the left wing/feminist indoctrination disguising itself as education.

[Anonymous 3]

If you can actually raise kids, educate them, and continue a legacy, that’s one thing, especially as a young man.

But who in the West is allowed to do that? Generally speaking, women won’t marry until they are older. Men have zero control over their own children, and can’t even educate them as the State does that.

That’s also part of Marxism.

[KevinStylesParticipant 2580]

I’m right there with you, zero desire to be enslaved by a child sucking my wallet dry, taking all my time and freedom. No thanks. Same applies to women.

[Joey CusackParticipant 1044]

I’m in my late 50’s with no kids, never wanted them. Fatherhood is just one of many roles one can play in life. Go for it if you feel inclined, just be aware of the risks involved. I would rather do other things that don’t restrict my freedom and that could potentially put me in the poor house.

In my observation guys want a family because it gives them something to do, a purpose that they hope will fill the imagined void in their lives. That and they want to fit in with the status quo.

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