Is exile to the "Friend Zone" permanent?

[DanceMyOwnWayParticipant 2096]

Unless they are unattractive but provide some useful function ie. A lift to somewhere which lets you drink beer AND dance. Other than that I don’t understand the point of it.

If you fall down 7 times, get up 8

[narwhalParticipant]

I basically agree with what Doc and few other’s are saying. In order for the friend zone to happen, the woman has to put you there AND he has to accept it. I think once you accept it, it’s very hard for her to regain respect for you.

I can think of free scenario where the woman writes off a guy, only to be into him later. In all cases, the guy never accepted her attempts to put him in that friend zone box.

The first case was my brother. He had a crush on a girl in HS. Not sure much he let it be known, but he never really was friends with her, just considered out of his league. Fast forward to a couple years after college and she was very into him.

Second case was a guy I knew in college. Had a big crush on the girl who said she just wasn’t interested. They continued to hang out together, but he never accepted defeat, he simply insisted that he was interested in more than that. She eventually was impressed with his persistence then came around. Not the best example, because dude was rather blue pill, and I don’t think it turned out well for him.

Third case was myself. I had a thing for a girl that had recently broken up with a guy. Somehow I became friends with her. I bluntly told her that I thought she was hot, but I wasn’t going to do anything about because I didn’t think she should be dating anyone right now. I wasn’t going to do anything about it. I didn’t want to be a rebound guy. I rejected her before she got a chance to reject me. I think the challenge motivated her and she then starting to look for signs that I was interested, but I showed her nothing. She eventually insisted that she was fine and really want to go out, and I relented.

Just never give her the impression you are ok with being friends when you are not.

Ok. Then do it.

[AstroParticipant 2045]

I stayed friends with my wife after we separated and she knows I wouldn’t f~~~ her with a broom handle. She used it to screw me out of my money to help her new boyfriend. Be VERY careful being “friends” with women you used to have a relationship with, you might get scammed.

[BokehParticipant 65]

‘Friendzone” after a rejection is YOU refusing to move on, that’s borderline obsession, and you need to check that s~~~. It will only get worse the longer you hang around her.

I did a lot of this kind of stupid shut when I was younger, and I learned. You get in the tiger cage and get mauled every time, maybe it’s time to consider what you’re doing – the tiger is just being a tiger.

Friendzone can be changed. I’ve done it, out of sheer boredom and just seeing if I could do it. It’s not hard. You just have to figure out how to make yourself desirable – and nothing makes a man more desirable than passing all the tests and landing a gf – I asked a woman I know once, what’s up with that? She said “Well, I know he’s acceptable now, she did all the work, and if she’s that weak that I can steal him away, that’s on her.” (Women are predators.)(Also, woman COVET like a mofo. If their friends all start going to a clinic to get smashed in the head with a hammer, you know she’s gonna sign up as soon as possible.) The second most powerful way to get a woman’s attention is to reject her right back. Don’t care – and mean it. Disengage, have nothing to lose, and claim the friendzone for yourself. Or, as I call it, the Sister Zone (I think of you more like a sister”) “Wait, you’re taking a position of power, and rejecting me? Time to reconsider!”
Granted, it depends on the woman, too, and her goals and headspace and intentions. My question is, why bother? There’s too many women out there to focus on just one, who already rejected you. You’ll most likely just be a consolation prize, anyway. I just don’t think it’s worth it. If you’re gonna date, and that’s a whole ‘nother subject, why not find a woman who’s attracted to you right off the bat? Are you trying to turn it around because of your bruised ego? It ain’t worth it, brother, put that down and go find another one.

[Anonymous 3]

The friend zone is a toxic waste dump.Stay away from it. There is no up side to it. At least not in my experience.
I have been there the ” good guy ” who gets to listen to how unappreciated she is by her new BF. F~~~ THAT!! MGTOW

[President CamachoParticipant 941]

Not going back through this thread to check whether someone already said this, but women and men can’t be real friends in the first place. Some simp I used to work with said “women make the best friends” but was unable to articulate how when I asked him.

A Western marriage that survives in the current year is an act of mercy and compassion by the woman.

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

Glad to see you back El Prezidente! I’ve been missing your posts!

[Eric LauderParticipant 12043]

No idea how a “friend zone” could work, or even exist: let’s suppose that you have a fixation for a particular girl, still, even if you accept to be “just only a friend” then you’re going to hit on her again, and again, and again. Either she capitulate or she end the friend thing.

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