Introducing son to MGTOW

[YounglukeParticipant 31]

I’m looking for suggestions for how best to introduce my son (15) to MGTOW. He is a very smart kid (Speaks 3 languages, can code JavaScript and C#, and plays drums and guitar), is motivated and very disciplined.

Luckily he lives with me 75% of the time, but his mom and her douche beta Chad still have some influence on him. He’s shown some interest in girls, but he is more focused on improving himself.

I don’t take the custody arrangement I have worked hard to get to for granted, so I don’t want to do anything that could jeopardize them. Mostly what I do now is try to lead by example, I work from home so he is able to see my efforts there. He and I travel at least twice a year, and we talk about each other’s hobbies and goals.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Don’t try to directly influence him.

Don’t mention MGTOW.

Show him examples of men being burned by women and the legal system set up in women’s favor.

He’ll figure it out.

[It’sallbsParticipant]

I would encourage him to start his own business rather than work for someone else keeping a job requires one to be a blue or at least pretend to be one.

http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

[ghostParticipant]

sidecar wrote:

Don’t try to directly influence him.

Don’t mention MGTOW.

Show him examples of men being burned by women and the legal system set up in women’s favor.

He’ll figure it out.

^ This.

[MonkParticipant 17010]

As others have already said, best not to mention MGTOW directly, lest he mention it to the ex.

Indirectly is another matter.

Encourage him to go his own way, and to break the Blue Pill mould (even though you never label it as such).

Discreetly see to it that he has real life examples of men being burned. If you do say anything overtly negative, make sure that it’s backed up by facts.

[Anonymous 3]

May I suggest that you dont?

Be more subtle. Use his smart-phone or his computer and watch some mild MGTOW channels on youtube. Because of that, his profile will be presented with similar MGTOW content…

That Google brainwashing machine is good for something after all.

[YounglukeParticipant 31]

watch some mild MGTOW channels on youtube.

Interesting idea. Any mild channel suggestions?

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

If he is anything like my son was then tell him to give himself to girls and supplicate to their whims. Happy wife, happy life and women are all things rosey with dandelions.

Then he’ll learn from experience.

My son is the type that never listened and always had to learn the hard way.

Now he’s 20 and has had some experience with girls. We’re pretty close so he asks me how to keep a girl as a girlfriend. How to keep a relationship going.

Now that he’s older I can speak more frankly but never say mgtow. He know’s I’m into some anti-feminist stuff but doesn’t like it much although he pretends to be understanding of me. He bought me the “Iron John” book for Christmas and got mad at me when I didn’t read it (I read it 25 years ago).

I told my son all he needs to do to maintain his relationship is be happy and happy with the relationship. Have fun.

I told him that if it doesn’t work out not to blame himself in anyway because it could be any number of reason’s she’s breaking up with you. You can’t control another person or make them happy. Whether they stay is outside of your control.

He seemed to understand. When they broke up he had another girlfriend within a few weeks. He wants to commit and she won’t. He’s screwed.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[freedomParticipant 5129]

He is too young for mgtow philosophy, it’s not like he will get married in the next 5 years so hold your horses, you have only 3 years till he becomes an adult.

[RomulusParticipant 4667]

I would not introduce him directly at his age.

And knowing how hormones drive a young man, it would be almost impossible to convince him to stay away from pretty young things.

But some rules of the road from an older male may be helpful. In my case, I wish I had been introduced to the notion that I didn’t have to follow the usual path of courting, marriage, house and kids. That another way existed for my consideration.

Because besides hormones, young men have to overcome social conditioning that supports a man working on the Pussy Plantation for the rest of his life in exchange for sex. Perhaps learning to stay grounded in himself, determine what he wants beyond the female orientated social norms, would be helpful as he launches in the wide world of sex and romance.

How can a woman be expected to be happy with a man who insists on treating her as if she were a perfectly normal human being.

[Anonymous 3]

I will take back my idea, because I think Romulus has the right one!

[John Woods 13Participant 2855]

If he’s into programming, it will be easy for you to teach him about statistics and economics. Then, about cost benefit analysis.
This can all be done in a purely scientific/practical way.
After, all you have to tell him is to apply that knowlwdge to interpersonal relationships as well. He will figure out the rest for himself.
If he needs and extra nudge, ask him this:
“If you have a code that’s working, is 100% optimised and is making you money, would you risk introducing a few lines of extra code that would reduce your income by 90% and that has a 50% chance of making your code unusable forever?”

The answer is NO. “I could but I won’t”. Memini murum!

[YounglukeParticipant 31]

Romulus wrote:

I would not introduce him directly at his age.

Agreed!

Romulus wrote:

But some rules of the road from an older male may be helpful. In my case, I wish I had been introduced to the notion that I didn’t have to follow the usual path of courting, marriage, house and kids. That another way existed for my consideration.

Good point, maybe just start off with simple conversations about how he see’s his future, goals, desires, etc. with follow-ups that allow him to think critically about things that may be related to social conditioning.

[YounglukeParticipant 31]

John Woods 13 wrote:

“If you have a code that’s working, is 100% optimised and is making you money, would you risk introducing a few lines of extra code that would reduce your income by 90% and that has a 50% chance of making your code unusable forever?”

Brilliant! There is no debugging of the female mind.

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

You tube videos.

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[KolaxisParticipant 668]

Your life is your witness. There is nothing more you can do.

Jackie: How do you write women so well?
Melvin Udall: I think of a man and I take away reason and accountability.

[OldBillParticipant]

sidecar wrote:

Don’t try to directly influence him.

THIS. Teach him by example, not lectures.

If you still feel the need to drop some red pills around him, point him at Terrence Popp’s videos at Redonkulas.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22538]

sidecar wrote:

Don’t try to directly influence him.

Don’t mention MGTOW.

Show him examples of men being burned by women and the legal system set up in women’s favor.

I agree. But if the documentary “Divorce Corp” happens to be in your dvd player or on the streaming internet channel you watch and you say, Hmm this looks interesting….

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[MACHOParticipant]

Yep sidecar nailed it!

sidecar wrote:

Don’t try to directly influence him.
Don’t mention MGTOW.
Show him examples of men being burned by women and the legal system set up in women’s favor.
He’ll figure it out

You must own a better Crystal ball than I

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