Intermittent fasting (what i learned so far)

[Anonymous 16]

I have read pretty much every book by Brad Pilon Eat Stop Eat, how much protein you really need, also the warrior diet, leangains, the renegade diet, and building the alpha male 2.0

Its all intermittent fasting protocols, ranging from 1-2 times per week 24h fast, to everyday 16-8 which is the most popular or the 20-4 warrior diet style.

There are lots of good things being said about intermittent fasting but most of them will remain unproven why simple why would companies invest on something that is totally free, no food required and no supplements.

I stared about 4 months ago decided that after a year and a half of training i needed a diet plan i was going no where. 5 feet 11 258 pounds i had lost 10 with training but still.

The most popular for is 16 hours fasted and 8 hours eating window i sort of started that way cutting out sugar and the bad carbs, replacing them with fruits and veggies and eating twice per day.

The warrior diet is too drastic for me. I also tried going for longer fast like 30h and even did 44h twice not recommended, my energy pummeled.

Last month my sport doctor who fixes my back contacted me and asked me to mix IF with the ketogenic diet, this is where all hell broke lose. Fatigue headache and more i tried it for 3 weeks and it was enough.

After that i ate carbs again, my weight loss stalled and i got my sugar cravings back.

For some odd reason now i am having issues with appetite and sugar cravings also staying on the plan.

I upped my fiber intake, and now i am doing the same with protein, trying to shoot for 100g per day food no supplements.

I know most IF plans recommend taking BCAA well for the price i will go with black coffee. BCAA are very expensive and worst when you live in Canada so close to 80$ per can.

I do train almost everyday with weights i feel a lot better in my clothes. But i gotta get back on the program, also i started to order out with the guys at my job not good…..

[experiencedParticipant]

There was an insanity workout about 30 years ago whose diet consisted of eating only up until noon each day.
No food and only 98.6 degree water for the rest of the day.
My guess is that it shocked the body into maximum GH production.
Getting GH output “up on the step” has always been a real challenge.
Part lies in absolutely minimizing the need for insulin, GH’s evil twin brother.
The no food for the rest of the day part probably served to avoid even the glucagon/glycogen end of things.
Muscles sucking every mg of sugar out of the blood, and only GH to elevate it, and GH is painfully slow to respond. It always seems to boil down to pain, but it’s worth it.

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[Anonymous 16]

experienced wrote:

There was an insanity workout about 30 years ago whose diet consisted of eating only up until noon each day.
No food and only 98.6 degree water for the rest of the day.
My guess is that it shocked the body into maximum GH production.
Getting GH output “up on the step” has always been a real challenge.
Part lies in absolutely minimizing the need for insulin, GH’s evil twin brother.
The no food for the rest of the day part probably served to avoid even the glucagon/glycogen end of things.
Muscles sucking every mg of sugar out of the blood, and only GH to elevate it, and GH is painfully slow to respond. It always seems to boil down to pain, but it’s worth it.

Natural GH production was proven during fasted state but is this impact enough for fat burning, reverse aging and so on……cancer prevention and so on.

[Anonymous 16]

Ok tomorrow i am starting the night shift at my job i am on rotation so i am fasted since 5pm tonight and will eat tomorrow around 7pm, veggie cream then legumes mix and then i got 3 slice of pizza that should bring me close to 2000 cals.

Usually call it quits around 10pm then with a buddy of mine we go on break at 2am so black coffee at tim hortons.

I have not gained weight back i am a bit tighter in my jeans so i need to get a grip right away. I did HIIT 10 minutes tonight stopped 3 times out of breath free program i posted in another post on youtube.

I am slacking off cardio but i should not 10 minutes a day i can afford i train with weights everyday but when it comes to cardio….. also there is the EPOC factor with intense cardio that is good.

Lets get this done. Back on track this week.

[experiencedParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

experienced wrote:

There was an insanity workout about 30 years ago whose diet consisted of eating only up until noon each day.
No food and only 98.6 degree water for the rest of the day.
My guess is that it shocked the body into maximum GH production.
Getting GH output “up on the step” has always been a real challenge.
Part lies in absolutely minimizing the need for insulin, GH’s evil twin brother.
The no food for the rest of the day part probably served to avoid even the glucagon/glycogen end of things.
Muscles sucking every mg of sugar out of the blood, and only GH to elevate it, and GH is painfully slow to respond. It always seems to boil down to pain, but it’s worth it.

Natural GH production was proven during fasted state but is this impact enough for fat burning, reverse aging and so on……cancer prevention and so on.

If what you are doing is working, stick with it.
I think the deal on the insanity workout and diet is that the muscles were absolutely obliterated and will thereby suck the blood sugar lower than fasting alone, and this would require the body to produce more GH.

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[Anonymous 16]

If what you are doing is working, stick with it.
I think the deal on the insanity workout and diet is that the muscles were absolutely obliterated and will thereby suck the blood sugar lower than fasting alone, and this would require the body to produce more GH.

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Yes weight training will help burn glycogen rise testosterone and GH along with fasting.

I am at the 14h mark now complete fast water, last night was hell around 10pm i was so hungry but i did not eat, i need a reset, i need a good reset. If i don’t eat until 8pm tonight its gonna be 27h fasted and then i can keep fasting for 16-18h a day and back on track.

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