In a bad space right now. REALLY BAD!

[AwakenedParticipant 35201]

Point Of No Return wrote:

Yup… And I hope strongly that she gets to that point where she asks herself that question every five minutes in the dead of night while she lies there on her bed ALONE!

I think for Many Ole Hags, the whole “being lonely” thing just hovers over them like a dark f~~~in cloud makin them a lil more miserable with each passing minute. By this stage of the game, they KNOW how much they F~~~ed Up THEIR OWN LIFE, and there’s NOT a dam thing they can do about it.

Remember, Karma IS A BITCH, and will come collecting some day, and SHALL COLLECT WITH INTEREST, in one way or another !!

Hopefully, when that day comes, you will have moved on, your kids will be grown, and you’ll just “hear” about it through a mutual acquaintance, and then you can just sit back and basque in the FINAL PAYBACK provided via Karma !!

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[Point Of No ReturnParticipant 4074]

Carnage wrote:

that must suck, big time.
But there is nothing you can do, hold in there, hold tight. use that rage, take it out in the gym, run, run like a mother f~~~er, it worked for me.

Just hang in there, 1 hour at a time.

Dont do anything stupid, just wait, wait and wait.

a good warrior knows how to sit at the river shore and wait for the corpses of his enemys pass floating by.

Just sit and wait.

I must try and do this, true. It is the time to wait, strategically I know it’s the best move, not to move, and work to contain myself. One hour at a time, true. I have to go back to focusing on the fact that I have power now that she must be envious of, as I have started working in a good job. The court agreement forced me to notify her. She must of at that moment felt like I now was at the start of my chance to rise, and she’s doing what she can to bring down my ego. I feel good about being able to have some coin leftover to buy extras for my sons that I couldn’t afford before. It’s new and I’ve calculated to the best of my abilities to the cent what I expect to have to pay in CS but I’m still a month or two from really having an idea of where I stand financially and how much financial freedom I will have a t my disposal to make myself feel better with the freedoms I will be able to afford with what I hope to have left over from my paycheque once everyone takes what they are entitled to. I’ve learnt to live off VERY little the last several months so any extra will feel very good and relieving to me. I already fully enjoy the money that I have now (what I think should be able to stay in my pocket according to my calculations) and it’s a big part of being a MGTOW. This is why women pretend to ignore money, but it’s just a tact, they always try to find out a man’s worth, always. I’m one MGTOW that believes in stealth, months and months ago after I joined I decided it was the way to go and so don’t believe in showing where I’m at financially on the outside when I walk around. You’d see me on the side walk walking and aside from looking very healthy, I look like I might not have two nickles to rub together, but in reality I may have a few hundreds bucks now in my wallet, in my jeans that are ripped and ragged. Feels good.

Know when it is your duty to give them zero explanations for your actions.

[Point Of No ReturnParticipant 4074]

Jake wrote:

not the girl you thought she was, probably not even close you dated a stranger so you would never date her if you knew her it happened to me I told her when people get to know you they would realise your an asshole remember the other guy will sooner or later see her for the c~~~ she is oh it gets better trust me

Exactly… I told my mom what was going on now and she said that she can hardly imagine that the mom of my kids is the same daughter-in-law today that she once knew in the past.

Know when it is your duty to give them zero explanations for your actions.

[AwakenedParticipant 35201]

Point Of No Return wrote:

Exactly… I told my mom what was going on now and she said that she can hardly imagine that the mom of my kids is the same daughter-in-law today that she once knew in the past.

THEY Change, THEY ALL F~~~in Change !!!

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[AragornParticipant 277]

Be patient, brother. The one who has conquered himself is a far greater hero than he who has defeated a thousand times a thousand men. Forgive her, forgive Chad, she is his problem now. Let go. Forget the past. Karma will sort things out, it always does.

If you change the rules on what controls you, you will change the rules on what you can control

[Point Of No ReturnParticipant 4074]

Aragorn wrote:

Be patient, brother. The one who has conquered himself is a far greater hero than he who has defeated a thousand times a thousand men. Forgive her, forgive Chad, she is his problem now. Let go. Forget the past. Karma will sort things out, it always does.

I’m only into considering forgiving those who deserve forgiveness, but I see where you are going. The idea is to let go of what you have no control over, that, more than to forgive, at least that’s how it is for me.

Know when it is your duty to give them zero explanations for your actions.

[Anonymous 38]

Man I am sorry to hear about your situation. You have absolutely done the right thing coming here for venting and support.

Also you are doing the right thing with your sons. Keep feeding them the truth and being a great father to them. Find out when they can choose to leave to live with you and if it’s an option, make that happen.

She may get the house but take solace in knowing she will be one miserable f~~~ while you will have your boys and life WILL get better.

Stay strong man and keep taking the rage out on healthy targets.

[onmywayParticipant 502]

I’m very sorry to hear this. Always remember that you DO have the strength to go through this. Children are not dumb, they know who really care about them – YOU!

Wishing you and your sons all the best. This too shall pass.

[Point Of No ReturnParticipant 4074]

Anonymous wrote:

Man I am sorry to hear about your situation. You have absolutely done the right thing coming here for venting and support.

Also you are doing the right thing with your sons. Keep feeding them the truth and being a great father to them. Find out when they can choose to leave to live with you and if it’s an option, make that happen.

She may get the house but take solace in knowing she will be one miserable f~~~ while you will have your boys and life WILL get better.

Stay strong man and keep taking the rage out on healthy targets.

It was not easy for me to get onto this forum, get back on this site (for reasons I will not explain now), but I had exhausted my other options for venting and knew that I’d be able to step back in and share. That’s the strength of MGTOW, that’s precisely the strength. I intend to keep on focusing my abilities on positive non-destructive activities. It’s just hard to do it alone, away from my sons who actually would really benefit from my full and constant presence if I had it (but the legal system thought otherwise).

Know when it is your duty to give them zero explanations for your actions.

[Point Of No ReturnParticipant 4074]

onmyway wrote:

I’m very sorry to hear this. Always remember that you DO have the strength to go through this. Children are not dumb, they know who really care about them – YOU!

Wishing you and your sons all the best. This too shall pass.

Thanks for the support; appreciated.

Know when it is your duty to give them zero explanations for your actions.

[AragornParticipant 277]

I’m only into considering forgiving those who deserve forgiveness, but I see where you are going. The idea is to let go of what you have no control over, that, more than to forgive, at least that’s how it is for me.

Who are we to judge who deserves forgiveness? Think about it: this guy could have been your brother in arms in a battle or your friend in life if only the circumstances would have been different.

To forgive him and your ex is to overcome hate, attachment, pride, ego and suffering. To forgive them is to show compassion with their imperfections. The understanding that nobody is perfect. To forgive is strength and it is power.
The power to chose your own way.

If you change the rules on what controls you, you will change the rules on what you can control

[Point Of No ReturnParticipant 4074]

I don’t need to forgive to find peace, I’ll just look elsewhere and walk right into it once I know where it lies.

Know when it is your duty to give them zero explanations for your actions.

[bladeParticipant]

I would put the kids on a travel watch list . Hopefully this guy talks her into going back with him to Europe .

Bro i wouldn’t be surprised if she does a dump and run so she can go relive her youth again .

It is good you came and vented here . Stay away from texting the ex when ya feal like this .

Just remain cool bro while this s~~~ show unfolds because you never know .

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[MoreSkyParticipant 4865]

Glad you chose to vent here rather anything crazy. You are being a good father in looking out for your sons and their welfare and they rely on you for that. They seem to recognise this.

A few points sprung to mind, which may or not be relevant, for you to consider:

– if she is co-habiting then this may have an effect on any child support or spousal maintenance
– there is strong evidence to indicate co-habiting which you need to check how that may affect the legal agreements between you (custody, maintenance payments etc.)
– if she is saying she is not co-habiting then she may be illegally sub-letting and/or be subject to tax, income and benefits re-assessment
– if none of the people are working and are not citizens then their holiday visas must have an expiry?
– if they have working visas then they need to be in employment?
– if you are the owner of the property – did you give permission to sub-let?
– if the property is rented then there will almost certainly be an issue around sub-letting.
– Your property deeds and/or leasehold may have some restrictions as well. If she is sub-letting that is a business, which may not be allowed.

You have the will and strength to do this for your sons. I admire your fortitude in doing the best for your sons.

You should prevail, but it may take time. I wish you all the strength possible to achieve this for you and your sons.

"...reinvent your life because you must; it is your life and its history and the present belong only to you.” It is Your Life, Charles Bukowski.

[bladeParticipant]

Aragorn wrote:

To forgive him and your ex is to overcome hate, attachment, pride, ego and suffering. To forgive them is to show compassion with their imperfections. The understanding that nobody is perfect.

Come on bro . At this point in time that is not possible .

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[Point Of No ReturnParticipant 4074]

She’s bound to stay here in the country because of the court agreement. She’s dreaming and going off her rocker. I must let her be and hope she runs herself into the ground giving me leverage to ask my lawyer to attempt giving me full custody. She’s got resources to think of (she broke and has very little revenue) so she’ll look forward to my CS cheque. If she steps out of line and I get custody, she can kiss a big chunk of money goodbye.

Know when it is your duty to give them zero explanations for your actions.

[chirParticipant]

These changes she is making are affecting the welfare of your kids. Document this. Save all texts from her. Add an app to record all calls from her. Talk to your kids teachers and inquire about your kids in school. (problems at home will cause problems in school) All this information can be used with your lawyer.

NEVER EVER forget you are at war, and she is out to destroy you. She will use those children as a resource extraction tool in the courts. How much of your money you send to her for your kids is ACTUALLY used on those boy’s. Statistics say, not all of it. She hamsters that she is DUE and DESERVES to splurge on herself.

Set in your mind, the woman you had children with is DEAD. The creature that replaced her is like a lamprey on your wallet trying to suck every drop of blood out of it, because she deserves and is entitled to it. Our gynocentric society and courts reinforce this believe in her all the time.

Fight.

It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion, it is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning; it is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.

[bladeParticipant]

Point Of No Return wrote:

She’s bound to stay here in the country because of the court agreement.

lol . Court order . You may as well wipe ya arse with that order .

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[Anonymous 42]

Point Of No Return wrote:

My ex has told my sons that he is their new dad!

The hammer of god is upon her, she will be in a corner some day weeping uncontrollably at the filthy mess she made of herself, her family, her husband, and her life. DO NOT RESPOND! Let her live dangerously filling her heart with c~~~ carousel and all the mental illness that derives from it!

Point Of No Return wrote:

It’s incredible that my ex would do this to her own sons!

This is why women can have no rights over the man and HIS GOD GIVEN CHILDREN!

Point Of No Return wrote:

It’s incredible that my ex would do this to her own sons!

I’m gonna prey an exacting prayer for justice and for her speedy and total destruction.

This is why I have no desire to share anything with a women! THEY GET NOTHING! MY GOD HAS HIS HAND ON ME AND KEEPS ME SAFE FROM ALL THEIR LAW GRANTED RIGHT TO HARM!

They’re f~~~ing slugs and nothing else!

Please for the love of god don’t do anything that will harm him while you’re angry! Those two f~~~tards are headed for some serious turmoil.

Let the spirit of the lord curse every breath they take in their adulterous and evil relationship.

She’s not a wife and never will be again, she a dirty adulterous abomination and will be rewarded accordingly!

I wish I could calm your rage but I can’t, just surrender it the god above and let him poke holes in them!

Stay close to your sons, they’re all the family you have left.

They wonder why women are more unhappy and miserable now than EVER?

I know why and it’s the reason the good lord brought me to this level of understanding the evil woman’s liberation has rendered this society DEAD.

Insure your sons that you will always be their father, In many years to come she will be old, alone, and haunted with the memories of the family that no longer acknowledges her existence!

You live in hell now, that’s a given, but when your sons are old enough to understand their mothers ways she will be the one living in a hell to which there’s no escape!

Desperation, sadness, and emptiness will consume her in her golden years as she lives with the horrible decisions she made. Bitter gall will be on her plate for breakfast each and every day.

You will find all the happiness she stole from you when you and your sons are best friends as a group of men with love and caring that women crave so much and find only their own shallow emptiness.

She’s on the c~~~ carousel and will be ruined in ways you could never imagine!

Your wife is dead already, don’t block the way, just keep the tether cord of love tied to your sons for the day you can be together and rejoice that the nightmare is finally over.

Give her no space in your head and let god take her order!

You just need to make it to the day that she and her evil stands no more!

PM me if you need to vent brother, I feel your frustration!

[DocParticipant]

Awakened wrote:

Point Of No Return wrote:

Exactly… I told my mom what was going on now and she said that she can hardly imagine that the mom of my kids is the same daughter-in-law today that she once knew in the past.

THEY Change, THEY ALL F~~~in Change !!!

That is so true. They change dramatically.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

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