I’m Quitting Steroids Because Of MGTOW

[007 (Reborn)Participant 1672]

Hello brothers,

A dark cloud of insecurity has swept over male, gym-goers in recent years. Men have felt the need to get bigger and bigger to impress other men and women. Men even feel pressure to use steroids. I’m one of these guys.

Our culture emasculates thin males. Their BMI might be perfect, but they supposedly need “big pecs for sex” and “big tri’s to get between girl’s thighs.” Men like me have felt that in order to be more validated by women, we need to hit the gym.

Being f~~~ing yolked hasn’t always been a major goal in western culture. It really stared to blossom during the era of Pumping Iron. Guy’s like Arnold Schwarzenegger came into the limelight with their enormous bodies and infiltrated Hollywood.

Ideal male physiques by era:

Pre-Arnold era

Arnold -Era

Modern Era

Professional bodybuilding is not a very healthy lifestyle. These guy’s consume grotesque amounts of food on a daily basis and put on large amounts of mass that their bodies have a difficult time managing. Worst of all, they use many illicit substances that can deteriorate their bodies and wallets.
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My story in a nutshell:

When I started lifting weights, I was 6 feet tall and 135 pounds. I was a long distance runner and damn good at it too. I was insecure and wanted women to like me. Running didn’t give me the attention I desired. No matter how many races I won, I didn’t prevail on my conquest for feminine attention. I was still “too skinny” according to their standards.

I did a 180 and decided to do whatever it took to fit their mold. Big Mistake. I started lifting weights every day. After 1 year I didn’t get the results I was looking for. I didn’t look like those guys in the magazines. I thought that maybe my diet or lifting routine was off so I consulted with the biggest guy in the gym about my predicament. He laughed and said that steroids make all the difference.

He hooked me up with some Test cypionate, d-bol and generic HGH. I used them religiously and gained 20Ibs in 1 month. Some of it was water, some was muscle, but It all appeared to be mass, so I was happy…almost. That stuff had negative consequences too. I had trouble getting erections, I developed lumps under my nipples (gyno), I was riddled with acne all over my chest and back, I would snap at people over dumb s~~~, my wallet took took a beating, and every minute of every day was dedicated to making the roids work better.

I’m now 6 feet, 2inches, 10% bodyfat, and 196 pounds. I looked in the mirror last week and felt ashamed. I asked myself “Why have I been doing this for the past few years?” The answer was simple, “for women.” See, women don’t change,even if you change and end up looking like a tank constructed of muscle, they’ll still manipulate and belittle you. That’s what I experienced. I asked myself “Why should I continue to devote myself to these vain creatures? I’ve wasted so much f~~~ing time.” I cried manly tears.

I’ve decided to gradually wean myself off of steroids. I’m currently taking half of what I normally inject/injest and hope to be off roids in one month.

I will lose a dramatic amount of weight, my estrogen will rebound, so I’ll inherit temporary female characteristics (physically, mentally, and emotionally), and my testicles will struggle to start naturally producing testosterone again…actually I may never recover fully, but it is worth a try. It will be hell nonetheless.

I’m not trying to be the victim. I consciously made the decision to become a bodybuilder and take steroids. I knew the risks. Developing teenagers are the true victims. Many are jumping on the juice when they mind and bodies haven’t fully developed. Plus they spend thousands of dollars per year on bulls~~~, legal supplements that have not nutritional benefit to their bodies. They’re getting conned from many different angles.

I urge you guys to never dramatically change yourselves just to satisfy women. It isn’t worth it. Trust me.

And thank you for the continual doses of red pills. I couldn’t have reached this conclusion without your support.

Pursuing Happiness and Freedom.

[MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To GiveParticipant 6635]

Good job man its stories like these that makes me so thankful mgtow exist. Everytime I read a post about a man changing his life for the better just makes it seem all worth it. Can you imagine the guys on roids that will continue to use them over a 10+ year time all for female approval? From those mild conditions you have went through be happy you woke up in time. As far as the (gynecomastia),after you get back to your normal body weight and the condition is still there you may need surgery to have the tissue removed from behind the areola,some guys get the impression that its fat and can be lost,but its breast tissue that has to be removed through a incision. Good luck

Never lose sight of what brought you here.

[guiParticipant 825]

Good Luck 007. You made the right decision. Health over looks anyday. I wish you the best in the long journey to recovery.

Pity and contempt are siblings. You only feel pity for those you consider weak.

[FrankOneParticipant 1435]

Excellent! I just started going back to the gym & am trying to lose some weight. I never did roids but have known many who did. It’s not good for you. Shrinking testicles, development of breasts, and pattern baldness are but a few symptoms. Good choice to come off them slowly too! I liked the images of how steroids changed the sport/hobby too.

[007 (Reborn)Participant 1672]

MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To Give wrote:

Good job man its stories like these that makes me so thankful mgtow exist. Everytime I read a post about a man changing his life for the better just makes it seem all worth it. Can you imagine the guys on roids that will continue to use them over a 10+ year time all for female approval? From those mild conditions you have went through be happy you woke up in time. As far as the (gynecomastia),after you get back to your normal body weight and the condition is still there you may need surgery to have the tissue removed from behind the areola,some guys get the impression that its fat and can be lost,but its breast tissue that has to be removed through a incision. Good luck

Thanks.The gyno in my left nipple has virtually disappeared through use of powerful anti-estrogens. I will continue to use them until the gyno is completely gone. Hopefully no surgery will be required.

Thanks again for your support.

Pursuing Happiness and Freedom.

[Eric LauderParticipant 12043]

There’s no such thing as a “female standard” for men’s bodies.
Women aren’t particularly visual, they are more attracted by our behavior in the very first phase, then it comes commitment, then it comes the money. A good body is appreciated but it’s not so important. Body Building is meant for YOUR pleasure.
I still lift at the age of 42, I never used steroids, my physique is more or less the Pre-Arnold era picture, maybe a slightly more defined, except that I don’t do excercises for legs, not at all. It’s actually 10.9% fat mass (my record was 9.8% in my 20s) but it’s a little misleading because legs and ass are normal, untrained, so the average isn’t worthy.
Every morning, when I wake up, I watch my naked body in a mirror, and I say to myself: “this is a man who is almost 43 yo”. And I smile, deeply satisfied.
It’s such satisfaction that makes you attractive to women, not your body, because it makes you more confident. But being more confident is much more than “women”: it helps you even in your job, and in a lot of occasions within your everyday life.
You don’t need steroids to being more confident, also because using steroids you know you cheated…

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[007 (Reborn)Participant 1672]

Eric Lauder wrote:

There’s no such thing as a “female standard” for men’s bodies.
Women aren’t particularly visual, they are more attracted by our behavior in the very first phase, then it comes commitment, then it comes the money. A good body is appreciated but it’s not so important. Body Building is meant for YOUR pleasure.
I still lift at the age of 42, I never used steroids, my physique is more or less the Pre-Arnold era picture, maybe a slightly more defined, except that I don’t do excercises for legs, not at all. It’s actually 10.9% fat mass (my record was 9.8% in my 20s) but it’s a little misleading because legs and ass are normal, untrained, so the average isn’t worthy.
Every morning, when I wake up, I watch my naked body in a mirror, and I say to myself: “this is a man who is almost 43 yo”. And I smile, deeply satisfied.
It’s such satisfaction that makes you attractive to women, not your body, because it makes you more confident. But being more confident is much more than “women”: it helps you even in your job, and in a lot of occasions within your everyday life.
You don’t need steroids to being more confident, also because using steroids you know you cheated…

I concur. Testosterone enhancement gave me an an artificially inflated sense of self-esteem. First, the high test levels increase aggressiveness, confidence and other male-based characteristics. Second, my swollen muscles made me feel like I was tougher and “more alpha” than people in my proximity.

Certainly a deeper level of confidence can be achieved through rebuilding one’s body naturally as opposed to enhanced. It will be monumentally more challenging to add mass without the juice, but I should be able to reach a point of self-assurance by persevering through struggle.

And maybe, like you bodybuilding can become a form of personal pleasure instead of a radioactive science project like it once was.

Pursuing Happiness and Freedom.

[bomwaParticipant 488]

Best of luck in your restoration.

I think that we’ve got a certain healthy state for our unique genetic make-up. When you try to go outside that state, you may look good, but you won’t feel good.

I tried to go outside my genetic limits and it ended in great pain. And yes, I was motivated greatly to achieve something I thought would be attractive to females.

[Anonymous 3]

Women don’t care about that. At all.

I was really big in my 20s, and this was way before this current fad hit. Back then there were barely any gyms, and only serious weight lifters were ever in them. I was taught by an actual pro who designed my workouts for me for free. Back then the community was so tiny that this was just normal. Probably now I wouldn’t have had access.

I never used steroids. I think some women did notice and acted a certain way. But it never really helped for anything.

In my 30s I stopped completely, and started switching to a more body weight resistance style, or just leaner. In fact I kind of stopped entirely to be honest. But that’s when women really started showing interest. This is because a man just becomes naturally more attractive in his 30s.

Women don’t have any standards. Not on muscle nor height nor anything else. I’m not entirely sure why they claim to have them, but I know for a fact they don’t have them at all.

In fact that’s one of my biggest issues with female promiscuity. Females have awful choice and they generally select to have sex with losers, and I really don’t want contact with a woman that has a lot of loser mileage on her.

Doing anything for women is a bad idea. Women are pretty easy honestly, and very random. I’ve had 3/10s mock me while 10/10s have drooled all over me. They aren’t visually based but more importantly they are very eclectic in their desires. If you make yourself muscular you put yourself into a box with the other muscular men competing for those women that like that look. That might have been a decent idea back when I was in my 20s when pretty much nobody had that look, but nowadays all the men look like that it seems so you don’t stand out. Now the fit athletic guy or even the chubby guy probably stands out.

I think men are indeed attracted to fit young women. All men find that attractive, and all women are once young and can be fit. Most men will prefer an “ugly face” fit 18 year old girl over a 45 year old “pretty” woman that is overweight and has her great career. But for women, fat guys, skinny guys, short, tall, it doesn’t matter, you’ll never be able to get a consensus pick on what each girl specifically prefers. Media has tried to distort this and play a certain image of man being attractive, and women repeat it back mindlessly, much to their own detriment. But without the media, it’s even more apparent how little women have a consensus.

[kizellParticipant 368]

Glad you kicked the habit. I too had several friends from college that would partake in the summer

I have never seen many big muscular guys get loads of pussy anyway.

[OldBillParticipant]

007 (Reborn) wrote:

I’ve decided to gradually wean myself off of steroids.

I’m very happy to read of your decision, brother. I took steroids for a long term injury in my 20s under a doctor’s care and they still f~~~ed me up. (I’m one of those guys for who a single aspirin works better than three.) I can’t even imagine taking them under the “care” of someone with a degree in “bro-science”.

As you note, there will be side effects. I dealt with those too. The side effects will be worth weaning yourself off steroids however.

Stay the course and we’ll all be here to support you.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[Tiga KParticipant 1693]

Congratulations on having the bravery to quit the roids. Always remember there are other styles of lifting that you can pursue other than bodybuilding if you decide it is no longer for you. Strength (performance) oriented lifting has done wanders for me. Some guys like powerlifting and others like Olympic weightlifting. Some guys have used bodyweight training to build impressive strength.

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

I’ve done a course in 2002 when I worked out for like 6 month (very quality and mild stuff, but don’t even remember now what it was) I ordered it online. It was a memorable feeling. I was driven. I would go to the gym at night when nobody was there and work out. It was fun.
I wouldn’t do it again, but I heard a lot of good stuff about HRT – I might try that if I could get my hands on it without a prescription. I am 36 and I can feel a slump which I attribute to lower T. Supposedly HRT is like fountain of youth for you metabolism and overall motivation. I am tempted to try it, but not sure if I could get a prescription if I went to a doctor. Maybe I should go test my T.
I don’t have any insurance now thought, so going to a doctor for it and buying it at a pharmacy would cost me a ton of money. There should be another way. I wish I lived closer to Mexico where it’s sold over the counter

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[Grim-Participant 454]

I’m glad you quit. Using steroids is a really bad idea anyway. Especially if you want to do it for women.

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I’m a pretty skinny dude though. I’m 5’5 and around 136 pounds. I’m currently starting to build my muscle up, but I’m doing it the natural way and am doing it for myself. Not for women.

What I’m working towards looking like as far as muscle mass goes is this:

I don’t agree with heavy lifting either as more muscle mass puts more stress on the body. But, something like Bruce Lee’s figure in the above picture is really healthy.

I was also never insecure about my body. There were a few moments I was, but I never tried to change my body for anyone else. I only tried to change it for myself.

If you start changing your body for other people you’re bound to end up getting depressed because you just can’t please everyone.

[TheroniusParticipant 975]

I agree, getting off the ‘roids is a great idea. Big showy muscles are not really that strong for their size anyway, and building too fast doesn’t give the connective tissue time to catch up.
I am getting old, but I am gradually getting into doing some basic strength training just to be more resistant to injury.
I was always pretty skinny, and real tall (6’6″). Not a real durable build. I want to build up the strength so I can do the s~~~ I need to do into my senior years without spending a lot of time in pain. I don’t much care whether the women like it, but being a tough old dude sounds like a good way to be. I’m at 205 now, and a bit “skinny-fat” so my first goal is to stay about the same weight and make what’s there a lot harder. Further down the road I hope to be stronger at 60 than I was at 40, and eventually build up to maybe 220 at the most. That’s what I weighed at 30. Not big weight numbers for my height, but 2 years ago I weighed 180-185, so it’s slowly happening. It’s also 2 years since I quit smoking cigarettes, so that’s some of the gain. I have 3 years til 60, so it should be doable.
The tough part is going to be getting into some cardio. I know I need it, but I f~~~ing hate it and always have. I live in the mountains, so I am thinking of hitting the trails, and getting into swimming in the summer.

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