I would be in jail right now…

[Jeremiah JohnsonParticipant 2219]

My x-fiance just came out to my place. Scheduled visit. To see our dogs, and drop me off a check she owes my mom. Well, today’s visit went off the rails right away. Mind you, almost all her s~~~ is still here at my place, since she is only staying with a friend for the time being, she has no where to put it, being the f~~~ing gentleman I am, said keep it here and it will be fine. And it will, I am not the kind of f~~~ing douche that has to do anything to her stuff. Anyways, she comes out today right away demanding her .38 that her dad bought her, and the .45 Colt her brother “GAVE” the both of us as a “GIFT”. She starts in right away about the ammo, I said I shot off the ammo in the .38 just the other day shooting at the sparrows nesting under my house, and the rest of the rounds are in the desk, she is p~~~ed now. Why are these rounds gone, what business do you have shooting my gun, blah blah blah…In reality, I shot the 5 rounds in the .38, and that is all. I also have a .45 that is mine, and all the rounds I have for it, I am keeping. She starts in about that…Finally, all things falling apart now, I ask her about the shoe prints I had to clean off the back window of MY Trailblazer the last time she took it, back in May, huge snowstorm, I wouldn’t let her go into town and to work in her two wheel drive HHR, so I made her take my f~~~ing 4×4 Chevy Trailblazer so she wouldn’t get hurt. She brings it back 3 week later, trashed, no gas, and to my F~~~ING DISMAY shoe prints on the back seat window drivers side. SHOE PRINTS, not a lot of f~~~ing ways those could get there….SO I confront her, FINALLY, I waited all this time, cause how bad this is hurting me, I didn’t ever want to bring it up, but this anger, and this days events not going my way, it comes out. She denies, calls me crazy, there were no shoe prints, blah  blah  blah…I ask her for the checks she owes my mom, she says no, I am not giving them too you because I don’t believe you will give me my stuff back, I turn to go inside the house, to call my mom and let her know she didn’t bring her money. I get inside, she pushes me up against the wall, Yes I am a big guy, but I am disabled, hunched over bad because of my Ankylosing Spondylitis, she pushes me grabs at the phone in my hand, pulls the f~~~ing phone cord out of the wall, turns out just the power cord was yanked, and in all that scuffling some how the phone was dialing my mom on speaker, she hits me, scratches my hand and yanks the phone from me and hangs it up.

I will stop everything here, there was more yelling back and forth, I couldn’t believe everything that just happened.

IF I HAD DONE EVERYTHING SHE JUST DID TO ME I WOULD BE IN F~~~ING JAIL RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!

Men are at a time when panning for gold in a urinal has a higher probability of success than finding a faithful and loving woman, it is time to go your own way.....

[BigDParticipant 3024]

Perhaps next time you have to deal with her you should have a third party there, probably with a camera and recording equipment.

Don't stick your dick into anyone you aren't willing to put up with for eighteen years and nine months.

[22DeeboiParticipant 259]

Wow…I’m at loss of words right now. I’m sorry to hear that  brother. But you are absolutely right about roles being switched. She assaulted you in your house and started a stupid argument, f~~~ her!!

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

I would get her s~~~ in boxes and tell her it’s going to be outside.

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

[Binary LogicParticipant 2351]

Yeah, I’ll have to second the notion of boxing her stuff up.  Wait for trash day and set it out there with it. Tell her if she doesn’t come pick it up, the trash guy will. Mind you it wouldn’t be doing it out of spite, but out of necessity. Once you are disrespected like that, it only get’s worse. You know this. And especially when weapons are involved. That’s not a downhill argument, that’s an absolute pitfall. I’m sorry to hear about it man.

Funny, isn't it? How women thrive on a mans time, attention and resources, while simultaneously telling him he isn't enough...

[Anonymous 18]

Crazy Canuck wrote:

I would get her s~~~ in boxes and tell her it’s going to be outside.

Do that and she can deal directly with your mom. It may be a one time thing but now she has a benchmark for what she can do and get away with. And I agree with BigD having a 3rd party there.

I remember in one of your posts about how she suggested recommending you for jobs at her workplace so you can get better healthcare coverage.

Man, I don’t know what these bitches drink in the morning to be so conniving and inhumane.

[Jeremiah JohnsonParticipant 2219]

Yeah, she has called me three times apologizing, asking for my forgiveness. I cannot believe this s~~~. Women are straight crazy. I am just in disbelief right now. You cannot put anything passed them, all who read this please take it to heart, it is the only reason I am sharing all this s~~~. NEVER let your guard down, they can go from abuse to smiley all in a sentence. This could be you, so be careful my brothers, they will break you into pieces, and then s~~~ on the remains.

Men are at a time when panning for gold in a urinal has a higher probability of success than finding a faithful and loving woman, it is time to go your own way.....

[Anonymous 1]

Dude, you should have ejected this woman from your life a long time ago. Do as was suggested: pack her s~~~ on boxes and leave them outside. Cut all communications with this woman. It will only get worse. I would guess she is one step away from doing a false claim against you. And than you will be REALLY screwed.

I would suggest you to place charges against her as well. I know it will end up in nothing, but just so you have something registered. If you still have the scratches on you, go to the police station and report her. She ATTACKED you, I don’t care if you are a big guy or not, she was the aggressor and should be reported.

We have to put a stop on this bulls~~~ at some point.

Good luck.

 

[felixParticipant 406]

If you can afford it, go rent a storage locker (in her name but at your expense. She will bite at that.), put her stuff in it and give her the key.  After a month or two your contribution will expire at it will be her problem to keep up the rent.

more throttle ..... less brakes.....

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

1. You MUST report this

2. You MUST get restraining order

3. You MUST start a paperwork trail.

The least of your worries is the physical gun …. it’s the huge f~~~ing legal bazooka she has on her side.

Start getting a legal case/evidence against her. Her switch has flipped and now she’s through the looking glass.

DON’T LET HER COME BACK

Arrange one of her friends to come get her stuff and film it being taken and it’s condition.

You are on borrowed time.

ACT NOW.

[Anonymous 42]

Bags, boxes, buckets, whatever it takes! She’s likely to use her “special legal powers” to have you charged and arrested, the post should read “going to jail, don’t know when”, when she comes around you need to split! Get the hell outta there! Give her NO PERSONAL CONTACT! BECOME A GHOST! You’re in danger brother, don’t take my words lightly! She’s nutty, and you’re the one she’ll be looking to crack. You’re situation has flashing blue lights all over it…..Give her the ammunition, mail her the guns!

[WolfParticipant 890]

Binary Logic wrote:

Yeah, I’ll have to second the notion of boxing her stuff up.  Wait for trash day and set it out there with it.

You have to be careful about this sort of thing. He agreed to let her keep stuff at his place temporarily, so he can’t unilaterally put it all out on the street without possible legal implications. The proper course of action is to send her written notice through a lawyer – 30 days to get her stuff out.

Jeremiah Johnson wrote:

Yeah, she has called me three times apologizing, asking for my forgiveness.

You need to cut her out of your life. No more interaction with her because it could come back to bite you in the ass.

ILiveAgain wrote:

1. You MUST report this 2. You MUST get restraining order 3. You MUST start a paperwork trail.

Start getting a legal case/evidence against her. Her switch has flipped and now she’s through the looking glass.

DON’T LET HER COME BACK

Sound advice.

 

[GeordieMGTOWParticipant 50]

Beaten to it: Camera.

 

Also maybe have 1- 2 witnesses there. Consider the pros and cons. Some of your personal s~~~ might get aired or they may be dragged into drama. Probably not so much if you tell them not to bite before hand. Yet it would offer you some degree of greater protection should anything else happen. Hate to say it also but maybe women are better for this. Not sure about that though, would have to think. Or maybe your mom if she can be bothered/you want to bother her with it, since women are believed more in courts/police dealings if it came to that. Do you have sisters you get on decently with?

[kizellParticipant 368]

This is a good thread for why we should never live with a woman that we are f~~~ing.

Best of luck to the OP.  You need to have someone there when she returns.   That should put a stop to the behavior.

A few questions about her stuff?  Is the place wholly yours?  Did she sign a lease?

[WolfParticipant 890]

GeordieMGTOW wrote:

Beaten to it: Camera.

Recording devices are a good idea, and they are recommended a lot in divorce forums. The intent is to protect yourself from false accusations. However, the OP has already been assaulted by this woman. He needs to stay clear of her. Having her back on his property is just asking for more drama.

A restraining order protects him from false accusations, as well as being physically abused again. It’s a clean withdrawal from her toxicity. With a restraining order, she can’t be on his property, nor can she be within so many feet of him without breaking the law.

How does she get her stuff? She can find a family member, friend or paid movers to do it. It’s not his problem. She made her bed, now she can sleep in it.

 

[Binary LogicParticipant 2351]

Wolf wrote:

Yeah, I’ll have to second the notion of boxing her stuff up. Wait for trash day and set it out there with it.

It may or may not have legal implications dependent upon what factors are at play. If she has lived there for a certain amount of time, then yes, you are absolutely correct. He would have to file for an eviction notice. And this can take some time, anywhere from 30 days to a 6 months. However, if he simply agreed to let her keep her things there verbally, then it is essentially “hearsay” and can be denied.

Long story short, you’re way does sound a little better. But given the immediate danger of physical abuse and having guns present, I’d take a legal slap on the hand of a prison bid/ body-bag anyday. Just mho.

Funny, isn't it? How women thrive on a mans time, attention and resources, while simultaneously telling him he isn't enough...

[kizellParticipant 368]

I’m no lawyer but this is the way I see it concerning her stuff.

If she never signed a lease and if the OP and girl never had an written agreement stating that he would keep her stuff, then I believe her items can be considered abandoned.

Essentially,  she would have no proof that she lived at the house (assuming none of the bills are on her name) and she would have no proof the OP agreed to keep them.

I think it would be ok to throw them out.  But like I said,  I’m no lawyer.

[WolfParticipant 890]

Binary Logic wrote:

But given the immediate danger of physical abuse and having guns present,

Throwing her stuff away does not protect him from danger. It’s vindictive. If anything, it will provoke her to do more harm.

kizell wrote:

If she never signed a lease and if the OP and girl never had an written agreement stating that he would keep her stuff, then I believe her items can be considered abandoned.

The law differs depending on where one lives. Where I live, the law does not recognize a common law/conjugal relationship as a landlord/tenant relationship. Family law kicks in for common law/conjugal relationships, and we all know how that works out for men.

In regard to her stuff, written agreements are best, but verbal agreements are legally binding too. If it comes down to he said-she said, then it’s not hearsay, as another poster suggested; rather, a judge has to determine what is likely true based on the evidence. The actions of each party are critical here. If he allowed the stuff to be there for a period time, then his actions imply that he permitted it. If he sends formal written notice to remove, then his intentions are crystal clear and explicit.

kizell wrote:

I’m no lawyer but this is the way I see it concerning her stuff.

He should see a lawyer…AND do what ILiveAgain said.

 

[cyclesomaticParticipant 137]

Tempting as it may be, boxing her stuff and putting it out with the trash isn’t a good idea.  However, boxing it and having it ready for easy/quick pickup could be helpful.  You will need to allow her access to you place to do a “final sweep” and having friends present during this sweep is absolutely imperative.

Regarding joint possessions:  Let her take them.  The .45 and any other joint gifts.  Figuratively throw them at her like you would a juicy steak to a rabid jackal.  Possessions are nothing compared to the peace you’ll have knowing you’ve carved this cancerous vagina host from your life.

If you must interact with her, as suggested, recording it with a camera and witnesses are the best way to go.  She can’t be trusted, clearly.  So act accordingly.

Good luck dumping this c~~~.  She’s obviously off her unstable rocker and you’ll be better for it.

[Jeremiah JohnsonParticipant 2219]

I appreciate all the great replies. I am going to just keep her stuff here safe until she is ready for it. As for any and all future visits, I am having my mothers husband come over when she is here. I really hate having him here in the middle of all this, but I cannot afford not to have a witness. I don’t have a whole lot of other potential help. I am a disabled extreme introvert. And I just moved back out here from Phoenix after we sold our house there. The place is totally mine, she is not on anything. My mother bought it outright and was letting us do rent to own. It is a 8 and 1/2 acre ranch in the eastern Wyoming mountains. My version of heaven on earth. No people, no cars, Just me, my 2 german shepherds, the elk, deer, eagles, and beautiful hills surrounding me. I still cannot believe she assaulted me today. It is playing over and over in my mind. I will never, I repeat never let a woman close to me ever again. Heed my warning brothers jerk off to a little free pornhub when you need the release, but leave those crazy f~~~ing psychotic women alone. It will never be worth it again in our lifetimes. Please take it from me, I have been physically assaulted twice now by two different women. I am paying half my disability to an ex wife that took my daughter away and uses her like an ATM card. DO NOT DO AS I HAVE DONE! BE SMART! LEAVE THAT PUSSY ALONE! You will pay for it for the rest of your life my friends, it is never worth the price!

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