I want to understand MGTOW better. Any help?

[GreekDragoonParticipant 460]

1MGTOW wrote:

Another thing,

some of you, while I was actively on the forums, were calling me as your brother. And now you’re telling me to leave. F~~~ing traitors!

Well, odd to see a Greek man give this jibe, if a Greek man you are…

Ποία σειρά ήσουν και πού ήσουν;

If you can’t answer the above, then tuna.

[ghostParticipant]

1MGTOW wrote:

Another thing,

some of you, while I was actively on the forums, were calling me as your brother. And now you’re telling me to leave. F~~~ing traitors!

Cool. Now, f~~~ off.

[BeachBumParticipant 813]

Do you masturbate with a pocket pussy or a dildo??

[MarketWatcherParticipant]

BeachBum wrote:

Do you masturbate with a pocket pussy or a dildo??

Ha.

Just trying to get the facts……

[SolitudeParticipant 116]

My perspective on your questions, presuming they are genuine.

1 First of all, does MGTOW mean solitude? Not complete loneliness, ’cause some mgtow guys have friends and people to talk to, but I know that they refuse to have children, get married, or even have a relationship. So, will they be like that for the rest of their lives? Just hanging around with friends (maybe not even the same) until they die? It sounds very “shallow” and sad to me.

MGTOW can mean solitude (see avatar), if that is part of going your own way. Or it could mean zero solitude. Your choice. Do you have fewer or less valuable social bonds, if you suddenly become single for a period time? Little changes if you’re single for a longer period of time. The crux of this question hinges on whether or not you believe having a partner, and dealing with what this entails, will provide you with increased life value and happiness. Many MGTOW I think would say no, which is why they are here. We find value and happiness in other ways less rife with the perils abound on this website. In terms of kids, many here have or are married and have kids. If you want kids, there are many ways to have them. Again, the crux of this question hinges on whether or not having kids will provide you with increased value and happiness in your life. If you are not happy/content in how your life is going, you may not be going your own way. If you are happy/content in how your life is going, and that does not involve marriage/cohabitation/divorce/emotional trauma/false allegations/financial hardship/arguing/devastation/etc., you may be MGTOW.

2 How MGTOW faces homosexual men? I’m asking that because gay men aren’t attracted sexually to women at all, and have a romantic relationship with a person of the same gender. But at the same time, some gay mens’ behavior and reaction is more feminine, and — in extreme cases, getting dressed like women. What’s the mgtow point of view about male homosexuals?

Again, MGTOW is about men going their own way. I doubt anyone here would claim MGTOW holds a cohesive view on homosexual men. My guess would be that if a homosexual man had experienced the same sort of hardships articulated on this website from heterosexual relationships (cheated on, married someone who took half of his hard earned savings & house, stole his children, filed a false police report, etc) and therefore found this site, he would be welcomed and supported by in large. Some people would likely express personal beliefs against their lifestyle, and for others like myself that have gay friends and family members it wouldn’t at all.

3 Isn’t it a bit ironic, that during the day you critisize feminism and women (their acts, way of thinking, habits etc), but at the end of the day you actually fap looking at women?

This is kind of a ridiculous question, in my opinion. I don’t think any heterosexual MGTOW would deny that women are incredibly attractive. Their attractiveness is a large part why we spent so many years in relationships with them, and why it can be so difficult when you first take that “red pill.” Becoming MGTOW doesn’t eliminate your sex drive, and MGTOW are far from the only group that masturbate. Additionally, if any of us is masturbating directly to feminism (acts, ways of thinking, habits), then that is an entire other can of worms.

4 Don’t you think is ugly the fact that men and women are most away from each other than ever before? How new life will exist if we all go our own ways?

Life and the world is better than it has ever been, in my opinion. I enjoy life and I enjoy being MGTOW. I’m excited to see what the future holds. If you aren’t so sure about this, then feel free to try the conventional blue pill lifestyle. My guess is that if you are genuine and already have enough questions to seek out MGTOW, then we’ll be seeing you again down the road.

Cheers,
-Solitude.

“The more powerful and original a mind, the more it will incline towards the religion of solitude.” ― Aldous Huxley

[1MGTOWSpectator 301]

OldBill wrote:

I’ll now point out to you all that the “Greek”, who was initially composed sentences in a stilted English-as-a-second-language fashion, can now compose entire posts in pitch perfect colloquial American English once they’ve been challenged.

Compare and contrast the slightly “clunky” sentence composition from their initial post…

Not my purpose to offend anyone, of course! That’s the last thing I want. I’m only writing some questions that I have and try to get things clear. I don’t force you to answer to all of these four, but if you do have an answer, I’d like to read it. Be well!

… with the perfectly composed post I quoted above and what I’m talking about should become clear.

Identifying the really good trolls and other infiltrators is akin to a Turing test. You often need a large number of responses to make a determination. We’re fortunate that “The Greek” has finally passed that threshold.

Αφού το θες έτσι! Φιλαράκι, και άνδρας είμαι, και Έλληνας είμαι, και ναι, όντως τα ρωτάω αυτά σοβαρά. Φυσικά, έπρεπε να το περιμένω ότι δεν θα μου απαντούσαν όπως έπρεπε. Πήρα το ρίσκο, τι να κάνουμε.

Αφού είσαι mgtow και δεν φιλάς μουνιά. Έλα να μου φιλήσεις τον πούτσο. Μαλάκα!

[OldBillParticipant]

I’ll ask Greek Dragoon for his opinion about whether that latest post is colloquial Greek or Babelfish Greek.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[Eric LauderParticipant 12043]

Anonymous wrote:

The Flashlight Pink Lady sleeve looks pretty good when compared with the baggage that comes with the real thing.

When it comes to purely physical pleasure a fleshlight is better than even a relatively tight pussy felt through a condom, if the comparison is with an overused too wide pussy then there’s no game.
Fact is that 90% of the pleasure a man get from having sex with a woman comes from the satisfaction when you “conquer” her and then when you make her reaching the orgasm.
When you fully realize all the risks associated with giving to a woman an amount of legal power over you, then everything change.
When I want to give a red pill to a man I simply suggest him to read the official page about women’s rights when it comes at divorce, directly from the government’s site.
Then, after that, I let him to think about it for some weeks, then I suggest him to read the text of the Convention of Istanbul, directly from European Union site (link in my signature).
It’s usually more than enough.

It does not even have much to do with women, it has much more to do with laws and society supporting potential abusers just only because they happen to be females.
Proof is that I haven’t been divorce raped, and my ex wife isn’t a bad person.
It’s just that given the situation and actual chances I’m not going to risk again: I have been lucky the first time and I don’t see why I should take another gambit, since the possible rewards are practically unexistant.

PS: Pink Lady isn’t the name of the sleeve: names are Vortex, Barracuda, and so on.
I’m actually more into Heavenly and Lotus models (I reached 6 different vaginal sleeves), but they’re the second choice, the anal model feels better (I have 3).

SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.

[1MGTOWSpectator 301]

OldBill wrote:

I’ll ask Greek Dragoon for his opinion about whether that latest post is colloquial Greek or Babelfish Greek.

😆 Lol, you’re hillarious, OldDick!

GreekDragoon wrote:

Well, odd to see a Greek man give this jibe, if a Greek man you are…

Ποία σειρά ήσουν και πού ήσουν;

If you can’t answer the above, then tuna.

Φίλε, ήμουν στην 4η σειρά. Εκεί που περιμέναμε να γαμήσουμε τη μάνα σου. Παλιοελληνάρα!

Άντε μου στο διάολο όλοι σας!

[Anonymous 11]

I have a Vortex too. I’d like to try that Lotus though.

[IRuleMeParticipant]

1MGTOW wrote:

OldBill wrote:

I’ll ask Greek Dragoon for his opinion about whether that latest post is colloquial Greek or Babelfish Greek.

Lol, you’re hillarious, OldDick!

GreekDragoon wrote:

Well, odd to see a Greek man give this jibe, if a Greek man you are…

Ποία σειρά ήσουν και πού ήσουν;

If you can’t answer the above, then tuna.

Φίλε, ήμουν στην 4η σειρά. Εκεί που περιμέναμε να γαμήσουμε τη μάνα σου. Παλιοελληνάρα!

Άντε μου στο διάολο όλοι σας!

SPAM!

[Anonymous 1]

[Anonymous 0]

Many of your questions are already answered.

1MGTOW wrote:

I’m not a woman, and I’m not writing these questions for any other reason but to understand some things.

OldBill wrote:

Each and every one of your “questions” could have been answered by spending some time reading these forums and you don’t need to be a member to read what it posted here.

1MGTOW wrote:

I don’t get why you started insulting me and not just responding the other way.

^^ Oldbill has given you a wonderful answer for this question too.

1MGTOW wrote:

If you didn’t like the thread, you didn’t have to reply from the first time.

surfdude12 wrote:

And if you don’t like MGTOW, you are free to GTFO

1MGTOW wrote:

You mean like those who wrote only the word “tuna” and nothing else?

OldBill wrote:

Identifying the really good trolls and other infiltrators is akin to a Turing test. You often need a large number of responses to make a determination. We’re fortunate that “The Greek” has finally passed that threshold.

1MGTOW wrote:

some of you, while I was actively on the forums, were calling me as your brother. And now you’re telling me to leave. F~~~ing traitors!

ghost wrote:

Perhaps, but he could spend some time reading and understanding what we are all about. It would save him the shaming.

Tic wrote:

no guy would come here and ask: “explain mgtow.”

surfdude12 wrote:

You’re writing questions to agitate, THAT IT. No desire to learn, no desire to understand. Just to AGITATE.

Eric Lauder wrote:

It does not even have much to do with women, it has much more to do with laws and society supporting potential abusers just only because they happen to be females.

Now you know why people here behave in this way.

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

1MGTOW wrote:

Φίλε, ήμουν στην 4η σειρά. Εκεί που περιμέναμε να γαμήσουμε τη μάνα σου. Παλιοελληνάρα!
Άντε μου στο διάολο όλοι σας!

Allow me to translate: “I’m a fat dick-sucking c~~~ with no dick to suck and no one to f~~~ my stink’in hairy bitch ass.”

You didn’t know I can speak Greek did you?

[IRuleMeParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

Many of your questions are already answered.

The Greek wrote:

I’m not a woman, and I’m not writing these questions for any other reason but to understand some things.

OldBill wrote:

Each and every one of your “questions” could have been answered by spending some time reading these forums and you don’t need to be a member to read what it posted here.

The Greek wrote:

I don’t get why you started insulting me and not just responding the other way.

^^ Oldbill has given you a wonderful answer for this question too.

The Greek wrote:

If you didn’t like the thread, you didn’t have to reply from the first time.

surfdude12 wrote:

And if you don’t like MGTOW, you are free to GTFO

The Greek wrote:

You mean like those who wrote only the word “tuna” and nothing else?

OldBill wrote:

Identifying the really good trolls and other infiltrators is akin to a Turing test. You often need a large number of responses to make a determination. We’re fortunate that “The Greek” has finally passed that threshold.

The Greek wrote:

some of you, while I was actively on the forums, were calling me as your brother. And now you’re telling me to leave. F~~~ing traitors!

Gambit wrote:

Perhaps, but he could spend some time reading and understanding what we are all about. It would save him the shaming.

tic wrote:

no guy would come here and ask: “explain mgtow.”

surfdude12 wrote:

You’re writing questions to agitate, THAT IT. No desire to learn, no desire to understand. Just to AGITATE.

Eric Lauder wrote:

It does not even have much to do with women, it has much more to do with laws and society supporting potential abusers just only because they happen to be females.

Now you know why people here behave in this way.

I had a chance to comb through your intro. Which makes no sense whatsoever unless you’re a female fiction writer. You may have fooled the people in your intro, but your story doesn’t add up.

TUNA #2

[Anonymous 1]

Anonymous wrote:

As long as you’re nice to me I’m going to be nice towards you.

What if we surround you and beat you up, you’re gonna be nice to us then?

[Anonymous 0]

IRuleMe wrote:

I had a chance to comb through your intro. Which makes no sense whatsoever unless you’re a female fiction writer. You may have fooled the people in your intro, but your story doesn’t add up.

TUNA #2

Really? I’m not a fictional writer. I’m not making up anything thing written here. Could you tell me where my story doesn’t add up?

Anonymous wrote:

What if we surround you and beat you up, you’re gonna be nice to us then?

Nope. I’ll definitely try to fight back. This happened to me in high school. I might not be able to fight you all, but I’m not going to be nice to you after that.

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

Anonymous wrote:

Nope. I’ll definitely try to fight back. This happened to me in high school. I might not be able to fight you all, but I’m not going to be nice to you after that.

WOW Now I’ll have to curl up with my teddy bear because my feelings are HURT!

[IRuleMeParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

El C~~~o Punto wrote:

I had a chance to comb through your intro. Which makes no sense whatsoever unless you’re a female fiction writer. You may have fooled the people in your intro, but your story doesn’t add up.

TUNA #2

Really? I’m not a fictional writer. I’m not making up anything thing written here. Could you tell me where my story doesn’t add up?

Math wrote:

What if we surround you and beat you up, you’re gonna be nice to us then?

Nope. I’ll definitely try to fight back. This happened to me in high school. I might not be able to fight you all, but I’m not going to be nice to you after that.

Where should I start? The part where you said you were 19 having a relationship with a 16 year old, or the part where you were paying all her bills? Should I continue?

[Anonymous 0]

PistolPete wrote:

WOW Now I’ll have to curl up with my teddy bear because my feelings are HURT!

That’s interesting because I don’t have a teddy bear. But funny I must say.

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