I want a relationship, she says

[SnakeSpectator 2080]

Ever had a woman tell you this right before she gets naked? I am thinking “yeah, I want a relationship, too…with your vagina”. Seriously, what else do we have in common? A relationship, like a friendship, is built off of common interests. If you do not apply yourself in life, and just show up with your vagina, there is never going to be a relationship for you other than a sexual one.

[kizellParticipant 368]

Never had that happen before.  Would make the sex worthless for me.

[RoyDalParticipant]

They have tried to do the opposite to me; “I don’t want to get married.” That’s the lure they used in my bleu pill days.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Binary LogicParticipant 2351]

Oooh. I see what she did there. I’ve also had them try to do the same thing IMMEDIATELY after. Perhaps it is b/c then they are most vulnerable, or even more likely because they feel as though you owe them something long term as a price for entry.  However, keep in mind that saying something like that right before or immediately after, shows a strong trait of selfishness IMHO. It’s almost akin to entrapment. And that, for starters, is the very thing that a relationship are NOT built on.

At that point right when they are about to strip down, and say something like that. Just STOP. Put your clothes back on, and tell her, quite frankly, to GTFO. It will add insult to injury I suppose because if they are at that point, she probably wants it just as bad as you. There shouldn’t be a reason why she needs that physical satisfaction at the moment, something that is usually mutual, and then demand extra payment on top. Or bottom, depending on how you get it in. LOL.

Funny, isn't it? How women thrive on a mans time, attention and resources, while simultaneously telling him he isn't enough...

[treelville..miamiParticipant 893]

Thats all they’ve ever brought to the table from my exp, as if taking a dick requires some kind of special effort or natural ability.

They don’t have it where it counts man imo. They can’t love bitches are cold.

"The wounds of honor are self inflicted"

[Binary LogicParticipant 2351]

Actually, come to think of it, you might actually be able to have fun with that. Immediately after you’re done, ask her to go make you a sandwich and bring you a beer. If she refuses, tell her you don’t think it’s gonna work out. LMAO.

Funny, isn't it? How women thrive on a mans time, attention and resources, while simultaneously telling him he isn't enough...

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

Well I want a billion $$$$.I want my own private island and my own private jet  and I want to own a football team and a futball  team and a baseball team  and a basketball team and I want my own harem of women who lay me down after a hard day and bathe me and kiss me and rub their bare hard nipples up against me.

If I want to I can talk just like a woman. I want, I want, I want. Yea

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Snake wrote:

Ever had a woman tell you this right before she gets naked?

It’s often worth it to turn them down right at that moment: “I was hoping we could just be friends.” The look on her face when she learns her bluff has been called can be better than sex. Certainly better than the sex with her would have been.

Of course nine time out of ten she’ll go ahead and f~~~ you, and she’ll actually put some effort into it for a change.

[GrumpyParticipant]

Binary Logic wrote:

Actually, come to think of it, you might actually be able to have fun with that. Immediately after you’re done, ask her to go make you a sandwich and bring you a beer. If she refuses, tell her you don’t think it’s gonna work out. LMAO.

+100 – 6 internet beer + a deck of 52 aces.

I had to clean the coffee of my monitor.

 

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

[Schaefe89Participant 163]

I like the whole relationship with your vagina thing. Really clarifies my position with female relations

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

– I have a relationship… in my pants

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[narwhalParticipant]

Yes.  So I have this first date with a woman a few years back.  The date was kinda boring and she’s dressed a little frumpy.  So I try and enjoy the time, knowing I won’t be calling and looking for a second date.  Fast forward a week later, and she calls me up telling me she wants to go out.  She has this club in mind (swingers club).  I waffle a bit, and she offers to drive and pay and everything.  I figure I don’t have any plans and swingers club could be an experience, so why not.  I meet her at her place, and she drives.

At the end of the night, I’ve drank too much and feeling pretty sick.  As we’re driving back, I ask if I can just crash at her place as I don’t feel I should drive.  I may have kissed her at this point, I’m not really sure, but it seems to me that we get along ok, but there’s nothing that special between us.  We get to her place, and I ask where the guest room is.  She tells me that’s ridiculous, just sleep in her bed.  Whatever.  So she takes me to the master bedroom, and I immediately hit the bathroom.  She walks the dog, while I’m puking my guts out.  I’m feeling 10 times better, and get into bed, planning on sleeping right away.

When she gets back, she strips down to her bra and panties, and it turns out she’s actually got a great body….so now I’m turned on.  She climbs into bed and we start making out, then I get her the rest of the way naked.  We’re about to get it going, when she tells me “I really want to too, but I want to know that you’ll call me later, that it’s not just one time”.  So of course, I tell her I would (I’m a drunk horny fool with a hot naked woman under me, what would you say?).  We have sex, go to sleep, have sex in the morning.  I leave and never talk to her again.

A part of me is not proud, but at the same time getting a man drunk, in your bed, and then stripping down in front of him…not the right time to talk about relationships.

Ok. Then do it.

[SnakeSpectator 2080]

Yup, that is basically what I am talking about. It is like they have a script:

Step 1) Allow the man to pursue them intimately to lower his guard, and when intimacy is established, attempt to extract as much utility and resources as possible. They go straight in for the “I don’t want this to be just one time, I am not looking for that. I want a relationship.” Which is translated to: I am looking to use you again and again as much as possible, while offering next to nothing in return. The only thing I am really bringing to this “relationship” is my vagina – for *you* to please. They will tell you any lie they have to for you to accept this deal. This woman even had the audacity to tell me she has only been with 5 men. They will hold back sexually in an attempt to “ration” the pussy. They know they can’t give it all up and be the slut they want to be or they would have no cards left in their hand.

Step 2) Once the man has rejected this deal, the woman goes to plan B. Which is to be as slutty as possible and give the man what he desires sexually. This is a second attempt at using the only bargaining chip she has, multiple holes for a penis, to again extract wealth and utility from the man.

[Helen be DamnedParticipant 480]

@snake

Plan B, however, is rarely met with success, as most men who have forced her in to plan B are aware of her intent and her nature, and thus will not put up with that s~~~. lol.

"You can keep your soul, I don't want a cell-mate." - Them Crooked Vultures

[KeymasterKeymaster]

LOL yes. “I want a relationship”. Let’s translate that into Manglish too.

“I want A relationship”.

The key word in there is “A”. But between two people , there are always TWO relationships going on.

Her relationship to you.
And YOUR relationship to her.

I have A (one) “relationship” to my chair. I also have A (one) “relationship” to this beer. My relationship to those things is uni-directional. I decide what happens next – 100% of the time. My chair – and beer – never will.

“A relationship” in woman-speak means she has ONE idea in her head about how it’s going to go. HERS. When she says “I want a relationship” before she gets naked, your needs, wants and considerations are as much of a non-concern as your orgasm. A relationship is the way SHE wants it to go. This is what a woman means by “A” relationship:

•••••

How many women do you know like that? F~~~ing ALL of them. It’s all mapped out in her head. She imagined it – even before meeting the guy! – the role is cast, and now she is looking for whatever dumb schmuck will play the part of puppet in her play. It doesn’t depend on you or even matter WHO you are. It only matters WHAT you are.

I once dated some chick, and we were shagging for a couple of weeks. Maybe 4 or 5 times. She says over breakfast: “I guess we’re in A relationship now”. (God I f~~~ing hate that word. I f~~~ing hate it).

“You guess? Honey you don’t even know my middle name. You haven’t even asked me my LAST name. You haven’t asked me how many musical instruments I play, how many languages I speak, how many brothers and sisters I have, If both of my parents are still alive, where I went to school, how I came to live here… none of that. Why (the f~~~!!!) would you think you are in A relationship with someone who’s last name you haven’t even bothered to know?????”

I’ll tell you why. Because “A” relationship is all about HER. She doesn’t give a f~~~.

All she cares about is telling her fiends “I’m in a relationship now!” and changing her goddam facebook status. Think I’m joking? Think again! That’s really what she was going to do! Change her goddam Facebook status. I allowed her to fade away because i saw the extreme insanity in that. You don’t just bang for a few times and POOF! you’re in a relationship with someone. (that’s when she started laughing hard). RIGHT??? A relationship is when two people make a conscious and clear effort to step into it together….. after many months of good times and a little history / chemistry together. It does not start BEFORE your clothes come off. That’s not the deciding factor. I have to f~~~ing decide if I like you first. I will need to have at least 9 – 12 months of good times and FUN FUN FUN with you, before I will even THINK about a f~~~ing “relationship”.

It’s two relationships. Not one.

The way women approach this s~~~ is ass backwards. If she doesn’t know how to hang on to a man or keep him coming back for more after she takes her clothes off, then she has no business asking for a “relationship” in the first place. That woman is a WHORE. A “whore” doesn’t just f~~~ openly and freely for fun. A “whore” withholds sex for some kind of unrelated price (or condition) she negotiates first.

• Some whores want another phone call.
• Some whores want the promise of “a relationship”.
• Some whores want cash to f~~~ off after.
• Some whores drop their panties when they receive a gift or a nice dinner out.
• Some totally over-priced whores will even attempt to negotiate a goodamn marriage contract.
• And some whores will even be a whore in her own marriage:
“Fix the bathroom tiles or there will be no nookie for you tonight”.

All whores.

The non-whore is the one who will want to screw you for nothing but an orgasm and a straight sex-for-sex exchange. She does not negotiate terms, price and condition for something totally unrelated before her skirt comes off.

Here’s what you tell that whore:

The criteria for sex (and mating) is based on ONE thing – and ONE thing only: The instant natural concept of ATTRACTION. In order for sex to happen, only one question needs to be answered. Either you WANT to have sex with me? or you don’t want to have sex with me.

The criteria for a “relationship” is based on a mile long list of things that are worked on – and earned – over time BY YOU. BOTH people. It never is decided seconds before her bra comes off – unless she is a whore.

It’s not related to sex at all. The desire for a relationship depends on a big list of other variables. So if you’re not a whore…. either we’re going to f~~~ like rabbits right now and have a great time…. or you can begin the process of working on yourself so that I will WANT to have a relationship with you. What’s it gonna be? Because I expect you to WORK if you want “a relationship”. I expect a totally fair exchange outside the bedroom. If I buy you dinner, you will COOK me dinner equal to the same amount of money and labour the next time. Spreading your legs will only get you laid. It will never get you “a relationship” unless the guy’s a low-expectation-having fool.

Tell her: Taking off your clothes right now will ONLY get you laid.
A “relationship” you will have to WORK for.

Most women are too f~~~ing lazy and think their vaginas are enough to want to get into “a relationship” with them.
Call those whores out. And then kick them out. Preferably after you f~~~ them.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

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