I saw Black Panther today…(Spoilers)

Topic by Jackinov

Jackinov

Home Forums MGTOW Central I saw Black Panther today…(Spoilers)

This topic contains 26 replies, has 18 voices, and was last updated by ResidentEvil7  ResidentEvil7 1 year, 11 months ago.

Viewing 20 posts - 1 through 20 (of 27 total)
  • Author
    Posts
  • #743762
    +15
    Jackinov
    Jackinov
    Participant
    5229

    And it was F~~~ING S~~~.

    So the all the usual was there, 120lb black women kicking the ass of 200lb+ specifically white men (because black henchmen don’t exist, apparently), black people being just oh so superior to the evil neanderthal “colonists”, so much more wise, understanding, etc. Ok, fine, let’s just say for a second this is plausible. It is a fantasy land after all.

    But there were several HUGE things that just straight up ruined the movie. I’ll list them in order of importance (as I remember them).

    1. First thing- the obvious politicization of the whole movie. Now, of course, what did I expect- especially in this day and age. However I was surprised that the whole movie was just RIFE with it.

    The main example I want to draw from is the main bad guy (who is technically T’challas older cousin, I believe, therefore having a right to the throne of Wakanda). Now, he has the stance that “black people have been oppressed for long enough, with the advanced tech we have here at Wakanda, we will liberate ALL BLACK PEOPLE from dee evil white man!”

    Not only is the typical trope of blaming anyone with a light skin tone for the actions of those committed HUNDREDS of years ago, the main bad guy claims to be a history buff, however yet again, somehow skips the f~~~ over the fact that without Africans catching, enslaving, and selling OTHER Africans (which they still do to this day, f~~~ 300 years ago), the slave trade wouldn’t have been nearly as successful as it was, hell it might have fallen flat on it’s face.

    Now later in the movie, he reasons to T’challa (the main hero) that since all people came from Africa, all people are his to rule.

    If that is the case, that blows a huge hole in the main bad guys motivation. If that is true, then that means everybody is an “african”. There is no US vs THEM anymore. So why then are you mad at one particular skin colored “african” for the actions of “africans” that happened 300 years ago. Why are you dividing your own people this way then?

    A smaller subpoint is that unless he knows the exact spot where the first man was created, he needs to shut the hell up, because what if somebody else is the president, ruler, king, whatever, of that spot? Then that means that THEY are the true kings of mankind, by his own logic.

    2. Usually the bad guy and good guy in a movie are polar opposites, however, Tchalla isn’t. He also has the stance that the white man is the scum of the earth, however, he is the more “compassionate and wise” character- “We need to be betah den dee white man, we cannot act dee same as they”, yet again skipping over the fact that in reality, black people are the cause of 95% of their own problems. The only difference between him and the bad guy is that while the bad guy wants to initiate a proverbial “eye for an eye”, he just wants to live in peace, and move forward helping his fellow man. Some people would say that IS the opposite of the bad guys stance, but they make very sure to show you that Tchalla believes the white man is the main trouble, but they give him a moral high ground, since he is the “better man”, he “forgives” them and moves on.

    So basically, they set it up so that it seems like the bad guy wants to “right a wrong” (I.E. he has been wronged in the first place, and therefore he is rightly justified in wanting justice), but Tchalla just wants to “forgive and forget” (meaning, yes, we have been wronged, but we need to be the better men, showing them compassion that they do not deserve).

    So there really is no difference in between them, only utter and blatant leftist virtue signaling.

    A smaller odd thing I noticed is that outside of the main bad guy, there isn’t any interaction with corrupt or evil black guys, or any of them, really- and even the main bad guy is presented like he has a point, whereas the white characters have the whole spectrum.

    3. And the last point, which has been seen many times before, it’s the extreme focus on not only killing white men, but making sure to do it in the most painful way possible, I.E. attacking the genitals. Multiple times in the movie, the strong black woman kills the evil white man by shoving a spearhead (their main weapon) right into their b~~~~. Nope, not surprising, because hitting men in the b~~~~ is a common source of comedic and/or symbolic actions coming out of hollywood, it’s just that in the rare event you do see a man kill a woman in a movie, never would it be by shoving a sword up her c~~~. The thought wouldn’t even be ALLOWED.

    Now I could go on and on and on (like the fact that there is no way a guy who has hundreds of confirmed kills and has been part of the highest special ops teams would think that just throwing Tchalla off a waterfall would for sure kill him without a doubt), but I don’t have the willpower for that.

    Overall, a very mediocre movie, and factoring everything I just said, the movie is actually just a very racist piece of s~~~, with lazy, pandering story-writing.

    are you a chia pet in man drag

    #743770
    +4

    Anonymous
    42

    Anything with modern titles reflecting propaganda are a guarantee to be s~~~ through and through!

    Wonder c~~~ being one of them! Now every movie must support at least one warrior wonder c~~~, two f~~ots, and a dweeb white man!

    TV went out the window in 05, movie purchases have diminished to almost NONE, guess who’s next out the window?

    #743781
    +5
    Ranger One
    Ranger One
    Participant
    16836

    T’Challa’s cousin was an odd bird. Good call on your part that he is hypocritical. (his logic is circular, and curiously self-serving)

    I don’t recall American slavery per-se being discussed though… I suspect the intent was such things as the Belgian Congo atrocities rather than African-American slavery.

    My take on it is you have a walled off country, inventive and scientific, that is nationalist, and doesn’t want outsiders barging in. Sounds like something Europe should emulate.

    In the end analysis, T’Challa opts out of bringing in refugees (one of his advisors said that the refugees will simply bring their problems with them) but helping people in their own lands. (unlike Europe brining people into Europe)

    All in all, I consider it to not be completely pandering to the SJWs. In fact, there is a lot in there that would p~~~ them off if they looked deep enough.

    All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

    #743785
    +1
    It'sallbs
    It’sallbs
    Participant

    http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

    #743801
    +4
    Jim01
    Jim01
    Participant
    6678

    going to see it Friday….f~~~, with all of the politics surrounding the race aspect of the film – I forgot that there were loads of “ass kicking” women in the trailers

    I hate nothing more in films than skinny women beating up massive blokes

    #743803
    +5
    Untamed
    Untamed
    Participant

    Thanks for this great review of a piece-of-s~~~ B-movie.

    Overall, a very mediocre movie, and factoring everything I just said, the movie is actually just a very racist piece of s~~~, with lazy, pandering story-writing.

    I came to the same conclusion without wasting one microsecond of my life.
    Racism is alive and well, only it jumped from whites to blacks with the difference that whites are forbidden to say they’re discriminated against.

    Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
    Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
    #GenderSegragationNow!

    #743804
    +2
    Ranger One
    Ranger One
    Participant
    16836

    going to see it Friday….f~~~, with all of the politics surrounding the face aspect of the film – I forgot that there were loads of “ass kicking” women in the trailers

    I hate nothing more in films than skinny women beating up massive blokes

    THAT I did find silly.

    That’s why I liked it in Game of Thrones when Euron Greyjoy fought the Sand Snakes (females) and one of the outcomes was one of them hanging dead with her own bullwhip wrapped around her neck.

    All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

    #743812
    +3

    Anonymous
    42

    I hate nothing more in films than skinny women beating up massive blokes

    Thank all the “silliness” in society on the nature of women permeating EVERYTHING!

    The only place a rational man can go to get away from all the “silliness” (LAWS INCLUDED) is in his own kingdom where all the “silliness” IS SLAIN!

    This society is telling men that we’re happiest giggling with girls over all the “silliness” when if fact our lives depend on BEING RATIONAL!

    SILLY HAS DESTROYED THE WEST! INTERNATIONAL CHAOS OVER REASONABLE RATIONAL THINKING MEN! It’s all about sovereignty or you’ll be giggling with girls to an EARLY GRAVE

    They’re unleashed hell upon us and I don’t think it’s a f~~~ing joke!

    I’m not GIGGLING! I’VE GOT MY GAME FACE ON!

    I’m from the Atlantic’s land of the rising sun!

    #743830
    +7
    SH3LLZ
    SH3LLZ
    Participant
    5569

    As a black man, I haven’t seen Black Panther. I plan on it eventually. As soon as a good torrent is available.

    But to your point, most people don’t know that African Kings including Shaka Zulu SOLD their own people for money and guns. Which PROBABLY gave rise to much of the guerilla conflict present in Africa down to this day.

    I’ll need to read up on my history more.

    #ICETHEMOUT!!! #MANOUT!!! #HIDEYOURWEALTH #VAGINAISWORTHLESS

    #743846
    +5
    Knights Templar Rising
    Knights Templar Rising
    Participant
    5106

    Didn’t see it, won’t see it. I can just smell the putrid stench of SJW on this film. Lemme guess, all of the bad guys are white heterosexual males?

    Sovereignty above all else.

    #743849
    +6
    Solid
    Solid
    Participant
    7520

    I will stay with old movies, thank you for your review ! This sound just like propaganda, as everything that comes out of hollywood nowadays, 99% of it is really predictable or is just propaganda

    #743857
    +7
    Jan Sobieski
    Jan Sobieski
    Participant
    28791

    Two hours of brain washing….no thanks.

    Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

    #743867
    +4
    K
    Hitman
    Participant

    #743883
    +3
    Narwhal
    narwhal
    Participant

    I’m kind of with Ranger on this one. I think a lot of people are trying to see things in the movie, really more the original premise of the characters and fictitious country, then is actually there.

    I find it interesting that the liberal viewpoint is that Wakanda is supposed to symbolize the modern US. Wakanda has a lot to offer the rest of world, yet it does not let outsiders in and does not share it’s resources. With Wakanda ‘opening up’ at the end, it’s supposed to imply that the US (and western world really) should be opening up as well.

    Yet Wakanda became as strong as it was by it’s resources and extreme nationalism and isolationism. Though not talked about in the movie, Tchalla was educated outside of Wakanda, which a huge controversy there, as the people thought he would be contaminated with outsider culture. How does this match the globalist agenda?

    Then there is the fact the very place Wakanda decides to start it’s outreach program is the US. If Wakanda is suppose to represent the US, doesn’t that mean that the US needs to help itself?

    And isn’t what Wakanda decides to do exactly what the US and other western countries have already been doing for decades, maybe even centuries? There is no tech, other then secret military tech, that the US keeps to itself. We have billions in foreign aid going out, as well as human resources.

    The inclination was also that Wakanda was looking out only for it’s own race. It chose a black neighborhood for it’s outreach. So if blacks are only suppose to look out for blacks, is it ok for other races to only be concerned with themselves.

    Wakanda was a dictatorship, a monarchy. An archaic system that allowed a evil man to take control over all resources.

    The term ‘colonists’ didn’t bother me much. In context, it seemed as if it was used to show that Wakandas really had a poor backwards understanding of the outside world…despite the fact that they had spies elsewhere. They saw themselves as superior.

    The movie (especially the trailers) tried to make African culture a parallel to African-American culture. The Wakandas really aren’t even a great example of African culture since there lives were not really much like actual Africans. They dressed the same and such, and it provides an interesting ‘what if’, but that’s it.

    One of the last lines of the move was ‘build bridges not barriers’, which looked to be a dig at Trump’s wall. However, it makes no sense considering walls have doors. They are decided to allow good people in and bad people out. In fact if Wakanda actually had good logic immigration policies, they would have never had the civil war and loss of life that they experienced in the movie. Killmonger was essentially an immigrant. He had a Wakandian father, but was born in the US. He had never been to Wakanda before. He did not know or respect their culture. He came in to exploit Wakanda and use it’s resources for his evil agenda. He wanted to change Wakanda into something it wasn’t. He was the perfect example of what can happen when you let an outsider into your country without vetting them first.

    So really, is the movie demonstrating the value of nationalism or globalism? Did this show the dangers of racism in extreme? Did this show the value in protecting culture?

    Ok. Then do it.

    #743922
    +1
    Untamed
    Untamed
    Participant

    Time to sacrifice Black Panther to the flames in the name of Equality.
    pantherflames

    Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
    Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
    #GenderSegragationNow!

    #743979
    +4
    MonkeyMind
    MonkeyMind
    Participant
    5340

    The trailers looked good, but then the inevitable virtue signalling identity politics came out of the MSM and it’s really put me off wanting to see it now.

    #744013
    +4
    Jackinov
    Jackinov
    Participant
    5229

    Several pointed out that Wakanda had a right leaning, nationalist stance. True, but it still follows the usual trope of everybody being able to be proud of and keep their traditions, except white people. From what I’ve seen, leftists proudly tout everybody else’s culture, but anyone with a light skin color suggests this and BAM you’re a racist.

    Another minor point I forgot to mention is that after the last big fight, when T’challa brings the bad guy to the hill to see the sunset, and then offers him medical help so that the blade stuck in his aorta (see john wick), doesn’t kill him, he responds “Why? So you can lock me up?…Nah let me die, bury me in the sea, with our ancestors who understood that death was better than captivity”.

    So just like in real life, he equates serving a prison sentence for his own actions to being caught and wrongfully enslaved.

    And yeah, they were acting superior the whole movie. Now if the playing field was LEVEL and you come out on top, that’s one thing. But no, you guys are the only ones with a s~~~load of VIBRAINUIM.

    are you a chia pet in man drag

    #744016
    +6

    Anonymous
    12

    Even without the politics, super hero films are just the same s~~~ over and over again.

    #744033
    +1
    Narwhal
    narwhal
    Participant

    Several pointed out that Wakanda had a right leaning, nationalist stance. True, but it still follows the usual trope of everybody being able to be proud of and keep their traditions, except white people. From what I’ve seen, leftists proudly tout everybody else’s culture, but anyone with a light skin color suggests this and BAM you’re a racist.

    The movie didn’t really hint that white people can’t have their own culture. That’s what other people say. Personally, I don’t really care about skin color of my fellow Americans, I just much prefer to live in an America (or my country of choice) where there are not divisive sub cultures.

    Related to this, I would point out that it’s rather interesting that the two white men who were in Wakanda, the CIA agent and Bucky, both recognized that they were different, respected the local culture and wore the local garb. They blended in as best they could. They did not try and change the place.

    Another minor point I forgot to mention is that after the last big fight, when T’challa brings the bad guy to the hill to see the sunset, and then offers him medical help so that the blade stuck in his aorta (see john wick), doesn’t kill him, he responds “Why? So you can lock me up?…Nah let me die, bury me in the sea, with our ancestors who understood that death was better than captivity”.

    Yea, that line came off as pandering to me. Killmonger never was in captivity up until the point he started a civil war. By all accounts, he also had a relatively good live in the US as well, certainly not a slave or treated less.

    I thought Killmonger’s motivations were rather muddy to begin with. He clearly wanted revenge, however, it made no sense for him to want to kill T’Chala, but never go after T’Chala’s father who actually killed Killmonger’s Dad. They tried to make it out like he was also some sort of deranged freedom fighter, but he was clearly racist, and clearly willing to kill members of his own race to get the revenge and power he seeked. You don’t start a genocide by killing people of your own race first, you convince them that your cause the right one.

    Ok. Then do it.

    #744284
    +2
    Knights Templar Rising
    Knights Templar Rising
    Participant
    5106

    If the movie were to follow reality, after ascending to the Panther, he would suddenly develop a preference for white women.

    Sovereignty above all else.

Viewing 20 posts - 1 through 20 (of 27 total)

You must be logged in to reply to this topic.