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  • #565313
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    Anonymous
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    Greetings Gentlemen. There has been a lot of talk in the press and by feminists about where all the “good men” have gone. As if they have any say in the matter. It has taken me awhile but now I no longer care what the media & anyone says is a good man, let alone feminists. Men themselves decide what a good man is. Perhaps that’s an oversimplification, maybe it isn’t. For far too long people other than men have tried to influence what makes a “good man.”

    In my own life there are things that I believe make a “good man” and I live by them as much as possible. Here is a list that is by no means complete:

    I mean what I say.
    I keep my word.
    I take care of what I have.
    I look out for my own family.
    I stand on my own two feet.
    I honor my own values.
    I live within my means.
    Others earn my respect, I don’t owe them anything.

    What do you think?

    #565324
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    Anonymous
    3

    Good! Because you shouldn’t! And you are also quite right, although perhaps I’d use the word honorable, at least until women appropriate and bastardize that word too.

    #565326
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    MGTOW_Mike
    MGTOW_Mike
    Participant
    6253

    Society’s standards:

    Good man = compliant man

    A tranquil mind is neither happy nor sad, it is uninfluenced by external conditions.

    #565333
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    Wyr
    wyr
    Participant
    591

    We’ve gone our own way.

    Self-improvement is my religion. Sovereignty is my god.

    #565334
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    Ghost
    ghost
    Participant

    Society’s standards:

    Good man = compliant man

    MGTOW = asshole

    The blue pillers are the real assholes. Let them all go f~~~ themselves.

    MGTOW for me is:

    1. Maintain health
    2. Avoid relationships and blue pill friends
    3. Focus on personal goals

    #565358
    +4

    Anonymous
    42

    I can’t think of a man that would treat me better than me! Except maybe Jesus Christ on judgment day…

    #565364
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    BrainPilot
    BrainPilot
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    7640

    A good man is one who lives a good life. But it is not for women or the government to decide what that is. If you allow either of them to decide for you what a good life is, the definition of a good life that gets imposed on you will be one that arranges your life to be most useful for enhancing their enjoyment of their own lives.

    I have premise that the best life I can lead is one where I owe no one anything when it ends. While I’m here, I will try to live in such a way as to leave my home better than I found it. Otherwise, I owe something to whomever takes my place in it after I’m gone. Since I can’t know exactly when that will be, my premise is best served eliminating debts (all of them) as rapidly as I can, and avoiding the creation of any new ones. The financial ones are easiest to measure. Live within your means and these debts erode progressively until they no longer exist.

    The other debts are harder to measure. My needs were met by my parents for many years before I could meet them for myself. What I owe them is impossible to measure, but it’s certainly not zero. At the very least, I owe them a life that will not embarrass them or cause them to regret the sacrifices they made on my behalf.

    Whatever God created me also created the rest of the world. I have benefitted from this, but have no way to repay it. The best I can do is not to destroy whatever else that same God also created.

    As a man, the government provides me some benefit, but unilaterally calculates what I owe for it and extracts that debt by force if necessary. Given the terms of this relationship, everyone knows that what is taken from me by government is far beyond the value of what benefit I receive for it, but no one ever speaks of it. I’ve paid taxes every year since I was old enough to work. But if in my last year alive I die without paying any taxes, my government will still owe me way more than what I owe to it.

    As I see it, any man who has significant debt is probably insured against not paying it. Whoever you owe has collateral, or insurance (whose cost is passed on to you in your payments) on your debt. Therefore, any man who is not a criminal, and who has paid even one single dollar in taxes… is a good man. That good man, who produces more by even one dollar than he consumes, is the critical building block of every civilization ever to exist.

    Every other member of any civilization (women, children, government) who is not a good man by this definition… OWES US! I lose no sleep over the machinations of people who’s demands are limitless, whose honor is extinct, whose continued existence is impossible without my generosity (forced or voluntary), and who have not yet shown any gratitude for what I have already done for them.

    The definition of ‘good man’ then is between me, my parents and God. I have already written, and have long since met that definition. I neither need nor seek the agreement of anyone else. But if I did, women and the media would be the last place I would look for it.

    Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

    #565366
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    Blade
    blade
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    I didn’t get kicked out of society i resigned with nfg . They wanted it they can have it . I am done .

    The only value a feminist society has is for humor for my own personal entertainment .

    THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

    #565372
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    Anonymous
    42

    Brain Pilot for the win!

    #565384
    RealityBites
    RealityBites
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    2198

    OP – I look at it this way. Both Western Governments and Women have an alignment in their agendas to get Men to swallow the Blue Pill lie.
    For Women it is the immediate payoff from divorce court and power over a man (false accusations) to chain him and turn him into a slave. And there is nothing like lifetime Alimony and/or Paternity Fraud to clearly demonstrate to a many just how few rights he has, especially when compared to women!

    For the government its all about tax revenues…the more men employed (especially with good jobs) the more money it will rake in for tax revenues (another form of enslavement.

    As for the media…well they are owned by the government and by and large will kowtow to any women
    special interest groups and throw men under the bus.

    #565399
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    Anonymous
    12

    A “Good man” is whatever women decide they need at any given moment. In the 90’s when I was in my late teens it was about the idea of being a Sensitive New Age Guy. Then by around the mid 90’s they wanted a very thin, straggly hair man who looked more like a woman than many women do. Now they seem to want a macho type man again, but macho in the sense that he has a job, will spend his money on them, will be a feminist but can still kill spiders.

    What we never hear is “What makes a good woman” why can’t women be better? Where have all the good women gone? Why aren’t women ladies anymore.

    Perhaps if women had some expectations placed upon them they might start getting a little attention.

    #565554
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    Macey
    Macey
    Participant
    19

    Judge a man’s virtue by his actions. Compare your actions to your ideals. If there is a mismatch then address your failings.
    Honesty (to thine own self be true)
    Courage
    Loyalty to those who have earned it
    Keeping your word

    #565559
    Secret Agent MGTOW
    Secret Agent MGTOW
    Participant
    22542

    Today a “good man” means a “good beta”. A good compliant wallet. A simp who says “yes dear”. A “good man” is one that takes female bullying without any resistance. A “good man” is one that says “sorry” when she’s the one who is wrong and screaming at him. A “good man” is one who looks after all his own cleaning and clothes and food, and also takes on some of her chores because after all she is so wiped out and does so much for everyone else.

    Just makes me so frigging p~~~ed.

    Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

    #565629
    Sidecar
    sidecar
    Participant
    35837

    I no longer care to be a good man.

    #565774

    A good man is one who lives a good life. But it is not for women or the government to decide what that is. If you allow either of them to decide for you what a good life is, the definition of a good life that gets imposed on you will be one that arranges your life to be most useful for enhancing their enjoyment of their own lives.

    I have premise that the best life I can lead is one where I owe no one anything when it ends. While I’m here, I will try to live in such a way as to leave my home better than I found it. Otherwise, I owe something to whomever takes my place in it after I’m gone. Since I can’t know exactly when that will be, my premise is best served eliminating debts (all of them) as rapidly as I can, and avoiding the creation of any new ones. The financial ones are easiest to measure. Live within your means and these debts erode progressively until they no longer exist.

    The other debts are harder to measure. My needs were met by my parents for many years before I could meet them for myself. What I owe them is impossible to measure, but it’s certainly not zero. At the very least, I owe them a life that will not embarrass them or cause them to regret the sacrifices they made on my behalf.

    Whatever God created me also created the rest of the world. I have benefitted from this, but have no way to repay it. The best I can do is not to destroy whatever else that same God also created.

    As a man, the government provides me some benefit, but unilaterally calculates what I owe for it and extracts that debt by force if necessary. Given the terms of this relationship, everyone knows that what is taken from me by government is far beyond the value of what benefit I receive for it, but no one ever speaks of it. I’ve paid taxes every year since I was old enough to work. But if in my last year alive I die without paying any taxes, my government will still owe me way more than what I owe to it.

    As I see it, any man who has significant debt is probably insured against not paying it. Whoever you owe has collateral, or insurance (whose cost is passed on to you in your payments) on your debt. Therefore, any man who is not a criminal, and who has paid even one single dollar in taxes… is a good man. That good man, who produces more by even one dollar than he consumes, is the critical building block of every civilization ever to exist.

    Every other member of any civilization (women, children, government) who is not a good man by this definition… OWES US! I lose no sleep over the machinations of people who’s demands are limitless, whose honor is extinct, whose continued existence is impossible without my generosity (forced or voluntary), and who have not yet shown any gratitude for what I have already done for them.

    The definition of ‘good man’ then is between me, my parents and God. I have already written, and have long since met that definition. I neither need nor seek the agreement of anyone else. But if I did, women and the media would be the last place I would look for it.

    This pretty much sums it up in my opinion!

    "Just ignore everything women say and nothing will annoy you ever again." - Cu Chulainn

    #565783
    Cú Chulainn
    Cú Chulainn
    Participant
    3910

    Jack Donovan talks about the dualistic nature of this idea of what makes a man good. A ‘good man’ is not the same as ‘good at being a man’. The latter is the real thing, and requires effort and struggle to EARN the respect of other men who are working in a similar vein of self-improvement.

    What the blue pilled world thinks of that means f~~~ all. Good men are dime a dozen, men who are good at being men are at a premium.

    #565784
    NerdTunneler
    NerdTunneler
    Participant

    Their definition of a good man is a man who bends down, hands on knees and spreads their butt ready for some assf~~~…Not me…They can call me an asshole for not following them…I did what a good man is supposed to do and it got me more into bigger assf~~~s…No more…Let them f~~~ themselves..F~~~twads…
    Sorry..just raging because of the weekend…Cheers brothers…

    I stand with feet apart and let my balls hang free...Manginas dont have balls...See how they stand and sit at the whim of their masters...

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