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Hey guys. Been a while.
Not much good to share, but I’m reaching a breaking point, serious serious breaking point.
Christmas sucked bad. One of my kids broke down crying because it “didn’t feel like Christmas”. Three small gifts a piece. It wasn’t the gifts, it was the lack of everything else. Same as thanksgiving. The kids had lunch with my ex’s family and my ex, I stayed home at my place to make dinner. Made everything, you name it, I made it. The kids ate NOTHING at my house. Never again, never will I make thanksgiving again.
My ex has gone through more men than my kids can count, because of Facebook, my kids get to see all the men interacting with my ex online. My ex still works 2-3 days a week, and I’ve worked seven days a week for about 16 months now. I’m starting to get tired. My bills are no better. Credit card debt is out of control. Had to give my lawyer $3000 to retain her. She has provided no advice, no help and hasn’t even gotten me any closer to being divorced now than when I met her. So far, I’m out about $800 in billable stuff, what exactly I really don’t know. A couple of phone calls and papers to the court alerting them that she’s my lawyer. She has until this Friday and then I’m letting her go. Why Friday? Because she was supposed to make a offer to my ex very soon, and if it goes good, I can be done.
My ex tried to get a restraining order and take the kids. It didn’t work. Every time my ex contacted me for anything, I would lose my mind. Just a straight barrage of hurtful insults and the painful truth of who she is and what she had done to me. She said that my words didn’t hurt her anymore and she blocked my texts. Mind you, I never contacted her, if she hit me up, I’d blast her. But, this time, it was like a dare, saying that my words didn’t hurt her. So I wrote a nice long email, completely truthful and to the point about what she has done, what she did in our marriage and how she has hurt the kids and how she is bat s~~~ crazy. Turns out, she didn’t like that, so she went on her own, without her lawyer and saw a judge. The judge (apparently) told her to kick rocks, because nothing came of it. The only reason I know is because I happen to see my lawyer on the same day, and the two lawyers spoke and my ex’s lawyer said there was no reason to seek a restraining order or custody. Basically, if she didn’t want to see or read my email, to treat it like the million of other emails you get as spam each day.
I’m still paying $800-$1200 per month support. I paid $1200 last month to her, same month she gets a new FREE car from her family and goes on TWO trips to NYC. Must be freaking nice. I found out about the second trip while I was knocking out another 8 hour day on a Sunday, after already worked 50 hours that week, and I was sick.
I’m just so beside myself.
Still, no friends. Hobbies, nothing. I’ve thrown away everything that has no value, and made a list of everything I will sell. I’m going to have to cancel the internet, kids cell phones (I pay both), and probably sell my car. But, those three things don’t even equal one support payment. I mean damn, I’m not rich AT ALL. I make $22/hr. My insurance is expensive and I have a loan against my 401k. My taxes are still set for marriage withholdings, because I can’t afford one less nickel each check. I go negative between each check.
Yup, I’ve been messing up too, so many ways. Yes, mostly everything I just rattled off was divorce related, but I’ve messed up plenty of other self induced ways. Wanna hear that??
I do tattoos. I’m getting pretty good now. Ran into a chick I’ve know for about 18 years, lives about two minutes down the street. Texted, nothing big. Wanted a tat, I do it. Wanted to text, wanted to chill, we do, I happen to have had fresh made cookies, she eats one. I figure, “hey, why not?”. We Text more, I get a few dirty pictures, all kinds of mixed up weird signals from her, either that she wants to hang out, but then not, is bored, but can’t text back… just stupid s~~~. I give her ANOTHER tattoo, came out nice. Now, nothing. No sex, no nothing. I’m so down, I even broke my rules, I offered a DATE! I offered to take her out, no deal. No date.
You know what that showed me YET AGAIN??? That you guys here are CORRECT. All of you, pat yourselves on the back, because you guys called that whole thing before it even happened.
How else have I messed up? I’ve been unable to stop myself from talking s~~~ about the kids mom to them. I went off last night. Just completely stupid. My kids don’t care, no one does. Mom is now like my daughters “best friend” as she said. Best friend?? That woman mentally abused me for 18 years, and my own flesh and blood is best friends with IT?? After I got 1% of it off my chest, I was able to find clarity for a moment and remember why it’s so important for me to tell my kids how much of a complete piece of s~~~ my ex is. I told them, because I didn’t want them to grow up and by like her, to grow up not taking care of yourself, to expect handouts, to treat your love ones like disposable plastic cups, to go directly from a 18 year relationship to being on multiple dating websites. I don’t want my two kids growing up thinking that’s how life should be.
One last part, but I’m sure there is MUCH more….
Work. My boss has confronted me twice recently. Both times trying to pick a fight with me. He is under a lot of stress, and he started a habit of “taking it out” on various people. Today, was a little different. A co-worker, who is a prick, was acting like a passive-aggressive prick. So I told him to beat it and go back to his area. I told him to leave my area, stop talking and go away. I may have sworn. Turns out, he didn’t like that. So, time to start the investigation tomorrow. I have no idea what’s going to happen, I’ve never been in trouble at work, and I’ve worked there 11 years.
All that was this morning. In the after noon, similar thing happened. Our electrician was forced to finally look at my machine. Spent hours going over it, couldn’t figure it out. Came to me at 2:50, end of the day, and said he looked it over, checked this and that, blah blah. I said, “ok”. Said he had it running, so we walked over to check it out. Gave me this big long speech about switches, and choosing the right switch, and how operators shouldn’t change switches. See, I changed a switch, because it seemed bad. But, after time passed and the machine error was still there, it was in fact not a bad switch at all. That’s why I asked for help, because it got beyond what I knew about the machine. So, what does he do? Puts another new switch in there, gives me a long asshole speech and while we are there in front of the machine, the damn error happens and I tell him to stuff his rotten bulls~~~ and the switch straight up his ass.
Turns out, he didn’t like that at all. Then he starts throwing s~~~ down, his tools and rags. Gets squared off in my face and tells me he wants to take it outside. I tell him that’s the wrong idea. He gets really heated, so I just call him out on his bitch like talking and how if he is gonna talk s~~~ about me and my efforts, he better know what he was talking about.
So.
I’m probably gonna lose my job soon.
My kids don’t care that their mom tried to get them taking away.
I have no money, no friend, no hobbies nor interests in life anymore. Except maybe tattoos, but no one wants a tattoo from a machinist. 🙂
MGTOW, divorce, getting the c~~~ out of my life, all of that was supposed to help me, but I’m worse off now than I have ever been in my entire life.
I’m not suicidal, at all. But I’m struggling to figure out what’s in this life for me. Don’t even say “your kids”, because believe it or not, having the weight on my shoulders that someone is depending on me to not fail or slip or get sick does NOT help.
I was very close tonight to calling my ex and having her take the kids for the night. I was shaking in the car on my way home. I called a therapist, even though the last one said if I could draw concrete lines around what bothered me, therapy wouldn’t help, I just needed to change what bothered me.
I don’t know how to change any of this. I just don’t know what to do, but I feel like my life is about to crumble apart any minute.
Shit tested, Brother approved.
Take a step back, and let it all go for a second. Work through the most important isuue first “how are you going to take care of numero uno”. Other peoples emotions arent your responsibility so f~~~ worrying about too much of what you cant control.
The investigation
Be on f~~~ing time
Listen and bring a pen, piece of paper and recording device
Share your side of the story and any available proof-understand the context of the complaint and offer to bring in witnesses I.E anyone he was treating passively aggreessively -your A team in this situation-turn it around on him and say he was interupting you while you were working. DO THIS CALMLY
Understand your optionsThe order
First hr interviews the complaintant
Next its you or the witnesses no witnesses hes in a worse positionAnd really stop taking out your anger you can handle this
I really feel for you going through this s~~~. On a positive note, life is ever changing and the bad times don’t last for ever. You just gotta hang in there. Sounds easy I know.
Time to play dirty:
Good luck.
It's Time to get Wise
Put simply seem more professional then him, leverage the situation in your favor and leave the hr feeling your a professional individual so they cant put how your acting during the interview to whats been said about you. YOU NEED TO NOT EXPRESS ANNnNNNY anger or youll get canned and in order to do that you need to zen THE F~~~ OUT. Dont call the bitch you tatoo you need to remove negative forces so you can f~~~ing zen. When I got divorce f~~~ed no one told me s~~~. Calm down. Seriously do something you want to tonight and force your x wife out of your mind.
Thanks for the replies.
Yes, I’ll handle the morning-guy at work calmly. He’s a real prick, and I just couldn’t type out the whole situation on my damn iPhone. But, no kidding, he started the crap, I just reacted like I normally don’t. Instead of being a little bitch about it, I told him to get lost.
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I have two kids. 12 and 14.
They don’t like this dad anymore. They don’t understand how mom is sooooo happy and I’m not. They say mom never complains or seems upset.
Well who would be upset getting $800-$1200 a month for nothing, while working part time and getting attention and sex at every turn?? Plus, a 2014 Camry for FREE??
Yeah, not sure I’d complain either.
So, the kids want less and less to do with me. Like I said, they didn’t even care that their mom tried taking them away from me.
I’m not sure any side work or schooling is what I need right now either.
Shit tested, Brother approved.
Thanks for the replies.
Yes, I’ll handle the morning-guy at work calmly. He’s a real prick, and I just couldn’t type out the whole situation on my damn iPhone. But, no kidding, he started the crap, I just reacted like I normally don’t. Instead of being a little bitch about it, I told him to get lost.
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I have two kids. 12 and 14.
They don’t like this dad anymore. They don’t understand how mom is sooooo happy and I’m not. They say mom never complains or seems upset.
Well who would be upset getting $800-$1200 a month for nothing, while working part time and getting attention and sex at every turn?? Plus, a 2014 Camry for FREE??
Yeah, not sure I’d complain either.
So, the kids want less and less to do with me. Like I said, they didn’t even care that their mom tried taking them away from me.
I’m not sure any side work or schooling is what I need right now either.
Stop worrying about what you cant control. The kids lol, sorry to be frank but forget about how they view you or her in this, there 14 years worth of understanding amounts to s~~~. A persons downfall is when they are overconfident or completely unconfident and cant control desperation.
Your ex thinks she has the upper hand ,F~~~ her- get to a point where you fill a special place in your heart for her where its pure black and blank of any feeling so you do what you must.
Regardless of what you said to your co-worker you didnt do anything unlawful however what did you say verbatim ?
Verbatim…
He came over said something like “if your gonna advance work, you need to let someone know…..”
I cut him off, “I don’t care, go back in your area. Get the f~~~ away from me. Go away, this is my area, go away, I don’t need to talk to you”.
“Advancing” work is taking work before the previous job is completed. No one cares, there is no standard, and when my boss came over to talk, he asked what it was all about. I told him. Then I asked if I should just turn the machine off, and he said no freaking way.
How it happened was this.
A machine was all set to run a product. The product was waiting in queue, and a large volume had already built up, plenty for me to do, but the previous operation wasn’t complete yet. So, I grabbed what was there, threw it on my machine, checked it, everything good. Went to the bath room and when I got back, my work was gone, back on the shelf where I grabbed it. I knew it was him that moved it back. So I said screw it, grabbed the work again, reloaded the machine again, and then he walked over and we had our talk.
Shit tested, Brother approved.
I really feel for you going through this s~~~. On a positive note, life is ever changing and the bad times don’t last for ever. You just gotta hang in there. Sounds easy I know.
Time to play dirty:
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Good luck.
That is an EXCELLENT video. Hadn’t seen that one yet.
I’ll take some or all of that advice, and put it to good use.
Shit tested, Brother approved.
Verbatim…
He came over said something like “if your gonna advance work, you need to let someone know…..”
I cut him off, “I don’t care, go back in your area. Get the f~~~ away from me. Go away, this is my area, go away, I don’t need to talk to you”.
“Advancing” work is taking work before the previous job is completed. No one cares, there is no standard, and when my boss came over to talk, he asked what it was all about. I told him. Then I asked if I should just turn the machine off, and he said no freaking way.
How it happened was this.
A machine was all set to run a product. The product was waiting in queue, and a large volume had already built up, plenty for me to do, but the previous operation wasn’t complete yet. So, I grabbed what was there, threw it on my machine, checked it, everything good. Went to the bath room and when I got back, my work was gone, back on the shelf where I grabbed it. I knew it was him that moved it back. So I said screw it, grabbed the work again, reloaded the machine again, and then he walked over and we had our talk.
If no one was around to hear that I dislike lieng but given your situation fuk it.
if you know for a fact I MEAN a F~~~ING FACT no one heard it THATS not what happened.
If someone did HE SAID something to you to warrant it.
As far as witnesses , again, the people he pestered that day- inform HR about them. If hes a usual asshole they might express more about him then you know he’s done to them.
Get creative. You can figure it out.You CAN
Keep your head up bro only time you stop making mistakes is when you stop waking up in the morning lol. Talking also helps alot I noticed just to know others have gone thru similar f~~~y days/weeks/months/years.
Aloha means family you don't leave family behind. Who will be the next Draconarius for MGTOW? MGTOW = brothers = acceptance = belonging
So, the kids want less and less to do with me. Like I said, they didn’t even care that their mom tried taking them away from me.
Well if you are acting like a nut job sending the woman all kinds of ranting messages, and the kids don’t understand how you are getting dicked around financially and in court…you really are just making yourself look bad. If you badmouth her every chance you get and she doesn’t bad mouth you…you are just looking like a bitter angry person and she’s probably just saying see…that’s why I left him.
I know its probably easier to say than to do, but you need to play the long game. Don’t f~~~ your job up, your going to need money no matter what you do, and cut any contact with the ex down to a minimum. If its not kid related don’t even engage her. If she truly is such a nasty c~~~, eventually the kids will see through her s~~~ and understand dad wasn’t the bad guy…until then just focus on enjoying your kids and cutting the c~~~ out of your life as much as possible(and not getting involved with others right now). Basically what you are doing right now…you are playing right into her hand.
I’m doing my best, but I’m still drowning slowly.
I can’t keep this up forever. I’m gonna freaking crack.
Either my job, my kids, my cash or car or apartment. There’s no way I CANT play into her hand. She doesn’t lose here. If it stays like this, she gets to date and f~~~, and I pay for it. If I lose the kids, she’ll get an extra $94 a week out of me, and I won’t have the kids, but her family lives below her, and the kids are 12 and 14, so she’ll have extra money, a live in baby sitter and still have plenty of time for duck sucking.
The more I rip out of my life to ease my discomfort, the less is there.
I spend countless hours sitting and staring at the wall, sometimes when the lights are out, because I have nothing to do, and no motivation to do anything. My apartment is nearly empty.
When my lawyer mentioned the restraining order, I just didn’t care. I’d lose my guns and kids. It is almost a forgone conclusion that once one of two things happens, she will non stop try to get the kids. Either she enters into what she thinks is a long term relationship, and wants more cash, or she figures out no one really wants a 36 year old over weight balding single mom, and she gives up and just wants the kids to get more cash.
Am I focused too much on cash?? I don’t think so. The ONLY battle we have for the divorce is child support. She doesn’t want to work at all, let alone part time. She just wants cash, and right now she’s willing to take a slightly smaller amount if she gets 1 week of whore time.
And, yes, I’m done with that tattoo chick. It was all very strange. No, I didn’t sleep with her, nothing like that at all, but I thought she wanted to….? Very very strange. I suppose though, the tattoos came out great, so there’s that.
I’m going to email, call and go see my lawyer tomorrow. Something needs to give asap.
Shit tested, Brother approved.
Anonymous43Amigo.
I’ll try to break this to you gently. You will not win in court. Your ex will get every benefit under the sun. She will pile more s~~~ on you than a public park statue. Your kids will be turned against you and your friends may dry up and blow away.
You are a man. You will survive all of this and more. Your capacity to absorb damage is almost limitless as long as you don’t let this s~~~ distract you from you.
I say embrace the suck. Laugh at it. Go on, laugh. This is nothing compared to your ability to get beyond all of this and surpass what you thought was possible while you were with this bitch. You can rise above this. She can not. She will use your resources and have a brief upturn, but the time will come when her ability to take care of herself will falter. Giving her the kids earlier in the process will hasten her downfall. She will take you to court over and over for the attention and the power trip. Eventually time money and the bulls~~~ will run out. the 2014 car will need insurance, tags, routine maintenance, tires, brakes, coolant, oil, battery. Figure out what that s~~~ costs. This was not a free car, it needs $2,000 in work. Car is a depreciating asset. It will rust, break down get damaged, and in 3 years will be a turd no one will want to drive. F~~~ the car. You have other things to worry about.
Your s~~~ lawyer. Give her 15 days to get you squared away or she is gone. Show her a lawyer’s card. This is her replacement. This is someone who is milking you. If you think she is yanking yer chain, make a complaint to the state bar association. Lawyers loooooove hassling other lawyers.
The free car. File a complaint with the IRS. I think the car might be subject to gift tax or as income. I’m guessing it is worth more than $10,000. Run this by a tax professional first. I’m just a dude with a keyboard…
Next. Stay the f~~~ away from women, at least until you have disposed of your ex. Do you really need a double dose of drama right now? Settle accounts with the exwife. Whether or not you want women in your life later is up to you.
Next, file an appeal of the child support agreement. $22 an hour and bills leaves you short every month. There is probably a paper you can file with your state confiscation department. Appeal that s~~~.
Make a call to the credit card companies. Make a deal with them, 1/2 payments for 12 months or some reduction in payment. Have a definite payment in mind. No one wants to make a deal with a wishy washy person. I need my $300 a month payment to be $150 a month for 12 months. I am dealing with a divorce and I need your cooperation. I want to pay my bills but the way things are going I will need to default soon. Magic words…no creditor wants you to default. if the clown on the phone can’t help you, find a supervisor or someone in that organization who will say yes. Keep calling until someone says yes. After 4 or 5 calls all asking the same thing they are going to figure out you need help and something is better than nothing.
Therapy will not help you. This will be another mouth you have to feed, and the sessions will never end. What will help is the inner voice. You know the answers to all your questions, but the answers are not what you necessarily want to hear. Ask a question, out loud, and answer it. Hell if you have a question, post it here. See what happens.
Next. As little contact with exwife as possible. Do not send messages explaining anything. This is evidence that will be used against you in court. If no one explained this to you, this is a series of trials, just as serious as a criminal trial. There is a plaintiff…someone who has a complaint. There is a defendant, someone accused of some bulls~~~. Guess which one is you Amigo? Plaintiff = victim, defendant = criminal. You will be rung up for harassment. Harassment is defined as any unwelcome communication. Technically, a birthday card for your kid with $100 in it could be construed as harassment. Guess who does the construing…yeah the special snowflake you married. Any communication with exc~~~ should be 10 words or less, emphasis on less. Silence is perfectly acceptable. Sent to her lawyer through your lawyer is optimal. Lawyer to lawyer is not harassment. It is part of the ongoing case.
Evidence. Keep a journal of conversations, places, keep receipts. The better your journal, the worse her outrageous bulls~~~ accusations will look like bulls~~~. I have kept a journal of virtually every hour since 2009. This has saved me from prosecution 5 times. Alibis, be aware of times, dates, places. Journal can be a steno notebook, day planner, but be consistent.
Ignore what she does. Focus on what you do. Ignore the crazy s~~~, focus on being rational. Get up, s~~~ shower shave, then go to work. Work your work, then go home. find something to do there, catch up on old tv reruns, do situps until you exhaustion, work 2 1000 piece puzzles mixed together. Anything but thinking about the ex. If you are thinking about her, she is getting off on that. She is having a wallbanging orgasm everytime you think about her and her new f~~~ing car. Take the power away. let it go.
You need to focus on you and maintaining your health. This is stressful and it will make you sick. Go for a walk after work. Walk around failmart for a while. Do morning calesthenics just like jr high gym class.
Look at the good you have found so far. You have the potential to find peace in your life that you did not experience when you were younger. You have gained some insight into how women really are, use that to keep yourself from falling into the same pile of horses~~~ again. The women, they want you to f~~~ up. They want you to fail. And it is easy to f~~~ up, just lose focus on you and gaze at them a little too long and uh oh.
Women are designed to make us wobble just enough to make up think we need them. For some men, women are incentive to work harder, but she spends the your extra money on her worthless s~~~. For some men, women are an addiction, their soft bodies provide comfort and the dopamine in your head is as potent as cocaine. Beware of that also Amigo.
Your children. They are of an age where they can almost deal in abstract terms, should be out of self centered childhood soon. They will figure out what a beast their mother is, but they are dependent on her for everything. they will turn a blind eye to her bulls~~~, and become tuned into her reality. The ex reality is now their reality. They have to go along to get along. It’s not that the kids don’t love you man, they have to hate you or they won’t get fed. This will drive you insane. You have lost your kids.
They will find you again when their mother no longer provides meals, cash, permission to do things. Be cool, they will come around. They will see how you live, which does not match up with the lies and bulls~~~ your ex tells them about you. Kids have to nod and smile and eat the s~~~ sandwich too. They don’t have a choice, they are hostages.
You seem to be in the same spot as me…lots of bills, ex already f~~~ed me in court but I appealed all the financial s~~~ and won a little and lost a little. My kids told me to f~~~ off, same age as yours. You come across as a decent man, Amigo. I like you. I hope you find peace on your journey…it seems your are a mile or two behind me…those are going to be rough miles.
@May 7 2020 ^^^^
Good advice. That’s what we need on this forum. Practical logical advice. Not sympathy or kind words.
It’s a war out there and guys need to know the strategy to win, or at least get back with all limbs intact.
It's Time to get Wise
Jough, thank you for telling it all and putting it out there. I thought of May2020 (above) immediately when reading this and I’m thrilled he chimed in here at such length.
You are a man. You will survive all of this and more. Your capacity to absorb damage is almost limitless as long as you don’t let this s~~~ distract you from you.
This is not bulls~~~. The universe once tested me to a low I would wish on no man. I fixed that s~~~, and booked a get away to de-compress from the stress for a couple of days, and my car burst into flames – inside the cabin – on a deserted freeway at 1AM with no cellular service. At 5AM I found myself rolling my burned car off a truck, sat on the steps of a closed building with nobody around and cried like I never have…..
Go on, laugh.
Then for some strange reason, I laughed my head off.
I still have no idea why, but maybe now I do.I told myself: “You can’t fall off the floor”.
In that moment, it was hilarious. And true.Lawyers loooooove hassling other lawyers.
True! Do it if you have to.
Therapy will not help you….
Damn right. F~~~ that womanly s~~~. YOU are not “broken”. Don’t berate yourself too much and be careful of what you blame yourself for. You can’t be responsible for EVERYTHING. You’re already paying for someone else’s mistakes. So lighten the load and kick off some baggage. A “therapist” won’t tell you that.
Women are designed to make us wobble just enough to make up think we need them.
I’m nodding.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Take a step back, and let it all go for a second. Work through the most important isuue first “how are you going to take care of numero uno”. Other peoples emotions arent your responsibility so f~~~ worrying about too much of what you cant control.
Agreed. Your job is to survive and overcome whatever the external world throws at you. Giving up is not an option.
Thus, you will become stronger, and your kids will learn from your example — as opposed to having only their mother’s example, which is a recipe for disaster.
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
Jesus, this is why I come here.
No bulls~~~, no sympathy, no telling me to get over it and feel better.
Guys, I’m telling you, this s~~~ is killing me, but reading your words gives me strength.
I’ve made an action plan, a list of stuff I need to change. This is going to work, one way or the other.
First step is to get straight up my lawyers ass. I heard back today, and the offer should be made to my ex by the end of today. If she takes it, I’ll easly coast onto the next changes. If not, then we go to court and she’ll have war. And, I’ll still be able to make the s~~~ty adjustments I need to in the mean time. But for right now, I got my fingers crossed for a positive result.
Shit tested, Brother approved.
Got the offer from my lawyer.
It looks bullet proof. Everything is spelled out, even stuff that I hadn’t thought about or read about.
If my ex takes this, my life will do a 180, and I can start rebuilding.
I hope this works.
Shit tested, Brother approved.
You are getting good advice, but I wanted to reiterate that you should stop thinking about what your ex is doing. That will only drag you down and give her the attention she craves. Don’t even bother talking to her about anything other then what is best for the kids and the divorce settlement. You may not even bother with ‘best for the kids’ at this point. Maybe deal with that another day.
Also, your kids are old enough to understand how money works. They should be told that you are giving money to your ex to provide for your care and the amount of work you are putting into it, if they have not been told. They need to understand that when you say to ‘no’ to them, ask your mom, it’s because you are already paying for their needs. I’m not suggesting you speak poorly of their mom, don’t do that. Simply give them the facts and let them connect the dots.
Ok. Then do it.
Anonymous5It is a very difficult situation you are going through brother , but as it has been said a few times, find ways to do what you want, and or enjoy, or do the things that you loved but really p~~~ed her off. That always made me feel better , well for the simple fact that now you can do them without anyone screaming in your ears “thats f~~~ing childish”. My Friend and brother it is going to get tougher and you and your strengths will tried in the fires of divorce, but as the days become weeks and the weeks become months you will adapt. You are a strong man, you have alot to offer not only to your self but also to your two kids. Weather or not you know it , every bit of time you spend with your kids will be precious.
Do not give up the things you love to do . like Christmas dinner, or thanksgiving dinner. Even if you have to make it only for yourself. I do that every year. I cook a whole turkey , real mashed potatoes, and gravy, home made bread and rolls, And boxed stuffing, and the all important cranberry sauce, and pumkin pie.
Its going to be painful my friend but you have something she doesn’t. You have your MGTOW friends, who many not unlike yourself have been put through the “fires of the court system”. But we all have come out alive and thriving and you will too , just hang in there for a little while longer, come on here and rant and rave all you need to do , no one is going to tell you to shut up or anything like that. You are a Freeman, We all know what you need, and will be here when you absolutely are losing your mind, so that you have people you know who you can count on to be a positive in your life.
I am glad you My Friend And Brother Are Reclaiming Your Manhood B~~~~ and putting them back on !!! Peace and power be to you through this process.Sincerely:
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