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Anonymous2I’m always amused when I read the comments section of articles where MGTOW men reply about the decline of marriage and the effect that men walking away is having on society, and women respond “Well, don’t you want to make things better? Don’t you think it’s your job to help fix things instead of ignoring the problem?”
How is it MY job to fix things? I wasn’t the one that f~~~ed everything up and created the current gynocentric culture that has driven men away. I didn’t create this situation, so it’s not my job to fix it! What are you doing to fix things, honey? Are you fighting for equality in situations where women benefit from a double standard? Of course not! You’re sitting there looking the other way because you don’t want to derail your f~~~ing gravy train! As far as I’m concerned, this society can crumble to the ground, and I’ll be more than happy to sit there and watch it burn before I would ever lift a finger to help keep it alive. I seriously just don’t give a f~~~ anymore. Why should I go out of my way to help a society that looks at me as nothing but a disposable utility whose only purpose is to sacrifice my safety, well-being, and finances for the protection and benefit of women and the government? P~~~ off with that s~~~! I’ve left the plantation, and I’m never coming back. Same goes for the rest of my MGTOW brothers. You want to try to save this society, then get off your ass and do something about the problem! Feminism created this s~~~, so you all can fix it. I’m f~~~ing done. Good luck trying to get the toothpaste back in the tube!
Not giving a f~~~ anymore is a great place to be. You are now at your most powerful.
Aunt Esther: Fred, I'll have you know this body was blessed by Mother Nature!! Fred: Well, too bad your face was cursed by Father Time!
How is it MY job to fix things?
It’s not because MEN already saved the west through 2 world wars.
And THIS is what women did with it during “peace time”.The west is in the longest period of continuous “peace time” – probably since the foundation of America (but at least 150 years) – and when the country forgets that freedom isn’t free, the female sense of entitlement goes through the roof and they forget where their most basic liberties came from. Now they shamelessly divorce their husbands & murder their young on a daily basis, and celebrate it as an accomplishment.
“Well, don’t you want to make things better? Don’t you think it’s your job to help fix things instead of ignoring the problem?”
“On the contrary. I’d prefer to watch you try to crawl out from the rubble YOU went out of your way to create – while I sit back with my arms folded.”
Men have learned and adapted.
Women have not.That’s what it would take for the modern female to get A SINGLE CLUE about how good she has it. She’s the most coddled creature ever to roam the planet, and has no concept of it. ….. and she STILL has the nerve to complain, and lecture on how you need to “fix” things for her. It would take everything around her to be reduced to ashes before she took her head out of her ass for one minute long enough to understand what the f~~~ I just said.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.I agree with my brothers above. We are living in an extremely unnatural age of prosperity, due to the ingenuity of MEN, driven by a massive surplus of non -renewable energy. Each of us commands the equivalent of 200+ “slaves” (energy equivalent), and so the bottom 10% of us live better than the richest monarchs in all of history.
Will this last forever? Hahahahaha
Impossible.
We are on borrowed time gentleman. I’m not worried. As men, we will forge a new world out of the old one.
When the massive inevitable shift occurs, women will immediately go trad con. I would love to think that we would tell them where to go when this happens, but I’m not naive to human nature.
When his happens, I hope MGTOW is big enough that the ladeez won’t have a chair to sit in when the music stops.
The answer, is no.
When the massive inevitable shift occurs, women will immediately go trad con.
Feminist’s are quickly realizing “the kitchen” wasn’t so bad after all:
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/workplace-drudgery-drives-feminists-back-to-the-kitchen-3cfncfc2s
I would love to think that we would tell them where to go when this happens, but I’m not naive to human nature.
The worst thing men can do is develop a case of amnesia here.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Don’t I want to put out this fire?
No.
(my favorite word)I didn’t strike that match ladies, you did. And I am long gone from the burning house.
‘Not my circus… Not my monkeys.
Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you
The worst thing men can do is develop a case of amnesia here.
Agreed. But pussy is the best mind wiping device since men in black

The answer, is no.
I’ve left the plantation, and I’m never coming back. Same goes for the rest of my MGTOW brothers. You want to try to save this society, then get off your ass and do something about the problem! Feminism created this s~~~, so you all can fix it. I’m f~~~ing done. Good luck trying to get the toothpaste back in the tube!
It can’t be fixed. MGTOW brothers, I’m giving you a CLUE.
Imagine, Nostradamus saying: In that day seven women will take hold of one man and say, “We will eat our own food and provide our own clothes; only let us be called by your name. Take away our disgrace!”
…Wait. He was 1503 HAHAH Piker!
Isaiah, 600(ish) years BC – Now THAT is a prediction!
Translation: We will work like a man and provide, just don’t leave us!
Isaiah 4:1 if you’re curious. If you’re curious about bible ‘prophecy’, “in that day” is the clue you use. I don’t want to get overly religious
-I just find it humorous.
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Red Pill Rage will have stages.
I would have to learn more / confer with those who know more than me, but I imagine…
A person who has been burned over 90% of their body.
They are always feeling like they’re still on fire.
Never believing it will ever end.
Having to understand the old life is gone – people will never look at them the same and they will never look at people or the world the same, understanding that the ‘love’ they thought people had was as fake as a 3 dollar bill.
Broken inside and out – and on fire, with rage, torment and suffering.
They will never look the same. They will never be the same.
This goes on and on and on. .. and. on.. and.. on… and .. and.. on… and.. and and…
One day, someday, the anger and rage needs tending to. Those flames of emotion that keep those who hurt you at bay need tending and fuel.
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BY THE WAY! (a cute turn of phrase: ‘Don’t get this twisted’) Although anger isn’t the way forward, believing ‘fairy tale’ reality is the way to get a taste of the FIRE – and hell, if you can take that again.. I want to hear from you! From a psychological standpoint, you are truly a masochist worth talking to! … I digress..
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The effort to fuel the fire that resists the world that was so comfortable to destroy you awaits with a sneer, believing that ‘resistance is futile’ and you will come around..
So you feed the fire. Feed the anger and rage, memories of past arguments and gross unfairness:
I did this because you did that. If she says X, I tell her Y. If she says B, I tell her U. She started it. I wouldn’t have done to any human being what she did to someone she claimed to love.
The circle goes around and around, unresolved, a puzzle forever unsolved, feeding a fire that takes ever more energy to keep going.
Brothers, there is a solution so we don’t waste our energy with this crap (Which I believe is the real thrust of the original post):
Imagine you’re not wrong. They’re not wrong.
Is an alligator wrong if it bites your arm off because you decide to ‘love’ it with all your heart?
Are men sleeping with snakes and alligators? Is modern culture and media proposing this should be done? Of course. Go up to someone and call them a snake or alligator.
They deny, you talk. If you’re clever, clear and articulate, you’ll finally get them to say something like, “But only if you…”
— GET THIS BROTHERS —
You don’t EARN respect from your spouse/mate.
[Take a breath. huh?] Yeah. You got that right...is your mind racing?
Ok. If you want to play that, (and you did, and this is what people do) then SHE has to EARN love and devotion!
..Oh s~~~! See that. Man’s job is unconditional (agape-sacrificial) love. Woman’s job is unconditional validation and respect.
It is a game of ‘chicken’. When someone doesn’t do their job, the other doesn’t. The cards are stacked against relationships working because culture doesn’t understand the ‘game’.
….[breath]
OK. Imagine: If I’m powerful, rich, etc, I have lots of people’s respect and validation, so why do I need YOURS (wife/girlfriend)? I get that from others (and sex if I want it).. So what do you bring? What they’re (women to men) SUPPOSED to bring is UNCONDITIONAL validation and respect.
The idea being that if a man falls, stumbles, etc. SHE will treat him like a superhero and he will be able to rise quickly and strong, able to soar again, providing the family structure with resources.
Easy peasy.
Now you know why men cheat. It isn’t for ‘sex’. It is for validation. Now you know why men look at porn. Validation (or imagined future [potential] validation) Sex is validation.
Ask a man : Hypothetical, You can have sex with any woman in the world, or be president for 6 months and always be called Mr President afterwards.
The answer is obvious. And many will say, yeah! cuz with that I could get unlimited…
Break this down though.. What? Unlimited ‘validation’? To test, add this to the same question above: You cannot sleep (sex) with a woman for 20 years, but every time a woman even wants to, a thought bubble appears above her head that only you can see, plus 250,000 is wired into your bank account.
HMMM!!! See! Validation (Acceptance/understanding). Respect (to be appreciated for unique attributes).
Doubt? Do a survey. Sex is simply the best/easiest form of validation. —Don’t think in absolutes. Think in percentages. Women want respect and validation. Men want security and (group) acceptance. The percentages just aren’t the same and are actually inversely correlated.
Gosh I babble.. Sorry guys.
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Note to my brothers: (so you don’t think I’m coming from a place of, ‘LET’S JUST BE FRIENDS’ as I speak of balance and such. I *still* don’t ever get to see my kids. If I THINK about it too much, the pain is out of this WORLD! I have to pay more than half my current income in child support/alimony [4,500 a month] than I currently make. I am behind. Thank GOD I am out of state. I pay what I can as I can. I never got custody or visitation. I’m ‘good enough’ to pay 4,500 a month, but not good enough to see my kids. Haven’t seen them in 2 years. Never cheated. Hit OR yelled. I’m not perfect. I DRANK (a bottle – a bottle and a half of wine over 8-10 hours 2-3 times a week during my day [work from home office – always sole earner/supporter – rich lifestyle – indoor pool kind of lifestyle], but we were conservative christians and this was a BIG no-no – she found the bottles).This happened the last 1.5 years of an 18 year marriage, as my business began to see trouble, it was like I FELT that if I wasn’t able to make money, I would lose my wife and family. Self fulfilling prophesy? Or ‘subconscious’ insight? Who knows.
That’s it. MY BIG SIN. Big enough such that, even though I provided a lavish lifestyle, she never had to work. I was ‘off work’ every day by 5 (I worked from the home office in the 1700 SqFt ‘finished basement’ with an indoor pool – olympic length )
..Deep breath..
Don’t think (as a ‘nice guy’/simp) you could have done something better, unless that something better was 100% control and constant UPWARD trajectory with an exponential upward curve.
Being blunt:
Women want: Money (it is security to them) and Control (ability to use and count on the security).
Men want : Validation and Respect. (email if you want more info. SEX is just validation. There is no better validation than a person exposing themselves and allowing.. You get it… then of course, this becomes the ‘carrot’) It is so easy and obvious afterward. Respect is to have someone (a function of relationship dynamics) value one or more attributes above their own and/or others.
Feminist’s are quickly realizing “the kitchen” wasn’t so bad after all:
No surprise there. They truly don’t know what they want. Or perhaps, their “wants” shift from day to day, or hour to hour. Woman are incapable of foresight, and would be better off supporting the family to succeed under the leadership of their man.
My ex was the same way…acting on impulse with no forethought. Now she has to work at least 4 overtime shifts a month just to make some ends meet. Hahahahaha
The answer, is no.
Pussy is the best mind wiping device since men in black
Nobody calls it pussy anymore. It’s “vagina” and it’s not all that.
This is your toxic modern “vagina”…

…. and even if men of the west suffered mass amnesia – and all documented evidence of female greed, selfishness , narcissism , manipulation and toxicity were to vanish – if men were still deluded enough to risk themselves to save the west so that women could go back to being proud, fat, lazy, ego maniacs and bitchy abortionists again…. this kind of vagina would be destined for extinction.
Now THAT is a prediction!
@justanotherguy excellent quote.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.This is your toxic modern “vagina”…
Holy s~~~ dude. Guys actually bang pigs like that?
I totally agree…the WILL be extinct. But…why the f~~~ aren’t they extinct NOW?!
I called myself a mangina cuck in my intro, but my gf was at least hot. I’m not going to eat for the next couple of days. I require eye bleach sir!
The answer, is no.
Holy s~~~ dude. Guys actually bang pigs like that?
The “fat acceptance movement” likes to pretend.
It’s The Abercrombie-And-FatBitch® campaign.He would have to be a paid gay.

Of course beauty is only skin deep.
Butt-Ugly goes right to the bone.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.I tell you i haven’t had a conversation in person like this but when I see posts like this or hear the argument discussed in YouTube videos I’m always reminded of the scene from “The Chronicles of Riddick” when they are asking Riddick to save the universe and telling him about all the danger they’re in. And ask if he heard what they said.
Imam: Have you heard anything I’ve said?
Riddick: You said it’s all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?
Imam: That’s right.
Riddick: Had to end sometime.Imam: Have you heard anything I’ve said?
Riddick: You said it’s all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?
Imam: That’s right.
Riddick: Had to end sometime.The Mamas & The Pepes recorded a raw version of my “Globalist Girl” lyrical reinterpretation of the Tom Petty song “American Girl”. You’ll enjoy the accompanying slide show.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.The “fat acceptance movement” likes to pretend.
“Yeah baby…bend your obese ass over the counter. No, it’s totally hot that your underwear is 5 sizes bigger than mine. Oh yeah. Give up those fat folds…yes…”
The answer, is no.
Holy s~~~ dude. Guys actually bang pigs like that?
Sadly, yes. They do. I have a few friends who will lower themselves to banging oxburgers like the one pictured. These guys can actually do much better, but decide to pull a one-nighter with them when they strike out with others in a bar.
These pigs end up believing they’re hot s~~~ because guys will use them for a night. They’re too damn stupid to realize it hasn’t landed them want they’re really wanting. They simply continue to feed their ego along with their faces.
Aunt Esther: Fred, I'll have you know this body was blessed by Mother Nature!! Fred: Well, too bad your face was cursed by Father Time!
Sadly, yes. They do.
Wow. Can you imagine a company that sells a totally substandard product, worthy of a recall on all fronts, making huge profits year after year?
Manginas: don’t feed the f~~~ing wildlife. Have some self respect for god’s sake. You are better than that. Your self respect is worth more than a tour in lard canyon.
To the ladeez lurking…get your dildo and go f~~~ youself.
The answer, is no.
Sadly, yes. They do.
Wow. Can you imagine a company that sells a totally substandard product, worthy of a recall on all fronts, making huge profits year after year?
Manginas: don’t feed the f~~~ing wildlife. Have some self respect for god’s sake. You are better than that. Your self respect is worth more than a tour in lard canyon.
To the ladeez lurking…get your dildo and go f~~~ youself.
this can be explained pretty well using car analogy
think of women as carsIf there was only one car manufacturer in the world and no regulations besides that nobody else can produce cars – all the cars would had become substandard – s~~~ty, unsafe and extremely expensive to operate.
Some people would still get them despite the high cost and danger, because they would feel they must have one regardless because of the need for status and mobility (blue pill).
Others would take ubers and taxis instead (PUAs and johns), limos (sugar daddies)
Others would ride public transport (poor TFLers)
Others would ride bikes (MGTOW)
Others would use rental cars (surrogacy)
others would ride each other (gay) LOLSame thing with women – even if they keep becoming s~~~tier and s~~~tier – men would still ride them because they think they NEED one and they don’t see alternatives being better.
Therefore I don’t see this system getting better until artificial wombs and robots become mainstream. Without regulations or competition systems degrade. It’s in the law of growing entropyLook at Cuba. They have mostly pieces of s~~~ for vehicles, but some people still ride them because they feel the need for status or think they have to move around in a car because reasons
proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome
Feminist’s are quickly realizing “the kitchen” wasn’t so bad after all:
They can get their own damn kitchen, they chose the workplace cubicle, now they can do some damn work in it.
Marriage: About as appealing as wood-chipper diving.
It’s not our problem. We did our part. Now it’s their problem.
But the only reason women are going back to the kitchen is because Gordon Ramsay and men like him have made cooking attractive. Feminists will try (half-assedly, at best) to do whatever men do… not because they see value in it, but because they envy us.
They’re not yet at the point where they realize they’ve f~~~ed up… and when they do get there, they still will have no solution for it… and even if they did, it will be far too late.
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