I haven’t given up on women…

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  • #139912
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    The Skank Spanker
    The Skank Spanker
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    1372

    Hi guys,

    Thank god for MGTOW. I thought I was alone in a feminized society amongst a vast majority of boneless blue-pillers. In recent months I have been reading about every topic on MGTOW and have been taking up a lot of material that gave me a perspective of reality as it is. I even introduced some friends to MGTOW (with success). I got here through my awareness of:

    1. Privileged bulls~~~ i got from women in relationships and dating (pre and post wall)
    2. The awareness of growing up in a society where feminine qualities are overvalued and masculine qualities undervalued. Society is f~~~ed up.
    3. There are no male role-models left. Men are being ridiculed as clumsy easy-manipulated tools/assets and I’m sick of it.
    4. Being around too many metrosexual mangina’s that give me the creeps.

    I firmly believe I have fully committed to the “red-pill” way of thinking. I used to be into PUA-material / techniques for many many years, and I have since been successful in getting laid and having women around me (although it also gave me a lot of headache sometimes), one-night stands, FWB and relationships . I’m glad to have pussy around whenever I feel like it. And should she give me a hard time, start manipulating me, give me bulls~~~, I would just get a new one. I have been in three relationships, and it mostly ended with a lot of manipulative bulls~~~. Since my last relationship I have stayed single (have been for 2 years now) and I have never felt better. I can now focus solely on my own well-being. I spend my money on my motorcycle, audio and stupid gadgets.

    Now it would seem I am doing fine, good job, my own place, nice car, vagina when I want. The thing is that, deep down inside I still feel that my life could potentially be better -WITH- a women I could have an intimate relationship with. I wish I could just get laid without wanting any emotional intimacy, but i’m only human. For some reason I always have better sex when i’m connected with her, I find one-night stands boring, I’d rather masturbate.

    Call me delusional, but I still think there is a woman out there that will not give me bulls~~~, manipulate me or treat me like an ATM. I’m currently dating a woman that hasn’t given me any bulls~~~ and I’m willing to give it a shot.. But as soon as she starts giving me bulls~~~, i’m out. I hope my red-pill lifestyle is compatible with my feelings. I wonder if anybody here has been though this dilemma? I sincerely think I would be unhappy if I would shove relationships aside for the rest of my life (although i’m never getting married).

    I would value any perspective from you guys.

    PS: I am aware of NAWALT and AWALT terminology and meaning.

    #139928
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    K
    Hitman
    Participant

    you are almost there ..that one who you crave intimacy with , have it ..like once or twice a week ..otherwise , BE BUSY …those red pills are in you …you can spot the bulls~~~ ..have your pussy cake , and eat it too .. DO NOT fall into the love trap …it is an illusion from brain chemicals ..seratonin , dopeamine ,..eating chocolate will mimic the feeling of ” love ” .. ..love is not real ..sticking your c~~~ in a woman you get to know and getting your needs catered to IS ….be careful brother ..they are designed to DESTROY us ! playing with fire can be fun ..mastering the flames is incredible ….winding up in the burn unit at a hospital …. well ..not so good … i will probably catch flak from other men here for telling you that ..but i always got to say it like it is . never get a woman pregnant ! or you will pay ! and pay , and pay , and pay ….

    #139932
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    K
    Hitman
    Participant

    do not be this man ..women will pull you in !

    #139935
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    The Skank Spanker
    The Skank Spanker
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    1372

    Thanks for your post hitman.

    Truth is, I will indeed not let myself get pulled into bulls~~~, marriage or any of that s~~~. However I had always planned to have a kid in my life (WITHOUT marriage), and in order to ever have kids, I should be in a relationship with a suitable, reliable woman.

    Upside:
    1. Provide (hopefully) intelligent life to this earth. Be proud of a son one day.

    Downsides:
    1. Lose my freedom to f~~~ with other women.
    2. Have (some) relationship bulls~~~ down the road
    3. Her taking the kids in a worst case scenario (im not sure how this legally works when your not married).

    Are you implying that MGTOW lifestyle basically means giving up on having kids or ever being in a relationship? (whether or not love is bulls~~~). I consider myself to be a mild red-piller, I can’t lead a happy life f~~~ing hookers without any good connection or someone I can rely on (I know a trustworthy woman is RARE, but i intend on finding out). It’s a f~~~ing shame I could never be a father just because this world is filled with untrustworthy cheating c~~~s?

    Anyway my first goal is to maintain 1 woman for a prolonged amount of time and see where it might go. I still believe red-pill can work in a relationship even with having children one day.

    #139948
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    K
    Hitman
    Participant

    brother-man ..i understand how you feel ,..i have a kid ..but if you saw the price-tag BEFORE you had one ,you might re-think it.. dude ..i got a friend who is a lawyer .. guy was getting married ( oh GOD NO !!! ) ..he said ” sometimes you just have to roll the dice and see what happens ” . so , you DO YOU ! ..FIRST and LAST , …what you want you will get .you don’t have to be married F~~~ED OVER to have a child ..just remember , time is on your side …i waited till i was 45 years old to start a family …lot of freedom in those years … life lasts a long time … no rush .. take your time ..YOUR time , ..not hers . ! .

    #139996
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    Snake
    Snake
    Spectator
    2080

    Call me delusional, but I still think there is a woman out there that will not give me bulls~~~, manipulate me or treat me like an ATM. I’m currently dating a woman that hasn’t given me any bulls~~~ and I’m willing to give it a shot.. But as soon as she starts giving me bulls~~~, i’m out. I hope my red-pill lifestyle is compatible with my feelings. I wonder if anybody here has been though this dilemma? I sincerely think I would be unhappy if I would shove relationships aside for the rest of my life (although i’m never getting married).

    You are delusional. These women do not exist. Every woman treats her vagina like cash money. In the end, in their mind, they deserve something for spreading their legs. It is only a matter of time before you see this. On top of that, you have a gender based society/system that will not allow an equal-based partnership with the opposite sex. You will be destroyed.

    #140005
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    Hmskl'd
    hmskl’d
    Participant
    6406

    after 20 years there is basically no desire for nawalt ..no more longing for unicorn even if she taps her pink hoof on my door ..they all bring issues

    #140016
    +8
    ILiveAgain
    ILiveAgain
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    You are young and still digesting the pill.

    DO NOT HAVE A CHILD WITH A WOMAN INVOLVED.

    Save your money up and find and pay a surrogate.

    Just in case you may have forgotten:

    If you have a child with a woman ….

    THAT KID IS NOT YOURS …. IT IS SOLEY HERS AND THE STATES.

    You have NO legal right to your child.

    10 fking years it took me to even be acknowledged as a father and even after that I was looked on as a pedophile sometimes.

    Doctors, dentist, mens toilets, passport control, schools, parks, funfairs ….. I won’t go on.

    Now take this extra large and super strong red pill my friend and listen to whats being said here. ☺

    #140058
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    Untamed
    Untamed
    Participant

    Your reflex to get married and 1.5 kids is passed down from generation to generation within each cell’s memory. It isn’t your contentment or what you want to build for yourself, you can see that, that’s why you’re here. Feminism is using those cellular memories to tell you it is your duty as a man to get a wife. Look around you. Thousands of subliminal messages telling you that your happiness lies in a life where you’ll be the chump, the packmule, the yes-man, deluded in the idea that it’s “your wife”, “your kids” “your house, car, job, boat…” When you’re married you own none of that and only half of it if you’ve got a good f~~~ing lawyer in the end.
    You’ll be lucky to get out of court with your shirt on.
    Think I’m joking?
    One guy slit his throat in front of the judge!
    How’s that for desperate?

    Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
    Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
    #GenderSegragationNow!

    #140059
    +3
    Untamed
    Untamed
    Participant

    You want children you’d he better of with a surrogate.
    Or wait for the artificial womb.

    Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
    Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
    #GenderSegragationNow!

    #140076
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    RedDawn
    RedDawn
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    1391

    Let me simplify love:

    Men love pussy
    Women love money and control
    people love to feel exclusive/needed

    These are emotional dependencies.

    Through an economic point of view, people are motivated by incentives such as what I have mentioned above. In fact It could be argued that everything is based on self interest. Even altruism, as the gift of charity makes people feel good. If they felt like s~~~ from donating to charities they wouldn’t do it.

    Therefore love shouldn’t be seen as negative, but one should be aware of it as it’s just how people are programmed.

    If you want to save your money don’t date (unless you make them pay for themselves) and don’t cohabitate.

    Courage is the key to life itself - Morgan Freeman

    #140254
    +2
    OldBill
    OldBill
    Participant

    Skankspanker, I’m not a celibate or monk MGTOW. You can f~~~ women and still be a MGTOW. The question is whether you f~~~ women on your own terms or not.

    The women I f~~~ know from the start that there is no chance of a long term relationship with me and that there is damn little chance of Round 2 happening. The few women over the years with whom I’ve had sex multiple times all still accepted my terms. Nearly all tried to push at the boundaries – women can’t help themselves – but all either honored my terms when I reiterated them or chose to move on. Sure, they laugh at first when you veto the placement of a toothbrush or box of tampons in your bathroom, but they understand real quick when you stay firm.

    I lay down the rules and they either follow them or move along. You’d be surprised how many choose to accept my terms. (Although that might have more to with with a woman’s belief that access to her slot-c will change a man.)

    As for children, surrogacy is now accepted then ever and is becoming more mainstream every year. I wish it had been a viable option when I was a younger man. I remember a Burt Reynolds movie from the early 80s on the topic. It slid by squawking harpies for a couple of reasons; it was a comedy, Reynolds was at the peak of his fame, and his character ended up marrying the worthless whore he’d selected as a surrogate. I remember articles at the time broaching the idea of a single man using surrogates for children and the horror in which the idea was held. If the internet had existed when that movie was made, the feminist s~~~ storm would have been memorable.

    Your fortunate to be y0ung, as odd as that seems these days. It would take a multi-million dollar lottery win for someone like me to have and raise children. You’ve time to save and time to watch surrogacy become more accepted and accessible. Start planning now.

    Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

    #140390
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    Jan Sobieski
    Jan Sobieski
    Participant
    28791

    See that’s the problem. I would like to have a woman for certain things. Like love and companionship. I like to believe that there is a unicorn out there for me. But seriously there isn’t.

    And it hurts. But GMOW has guarantees. Informed consent if you will. It is the best choice of the world we live in.

    Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

    #140478
    +1
    Rennie
    Rennie
    Participant

    See that’s the problem. I would like to have a woman for certain things. Like love and companionship. I like to believe that there is a unicorn out there for me. But seriously there isn’t.

    And it hurts. But GMOW has guarantees. Informed consent if you will. It is the best choice of the world we live in.

    I sometimes find myself fantasizing about unicorn’s. Would’ve loved to have one. But it seems no women actually possess the essential characteristics that I would’ve wanted. It’s frustrating, but atleast we have our fantasies and imaginations to picture the ideal woman.

    #140895
    The Skank Spanker
    The Skank Spanker
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    1372

    Thanks for the input fellow MGTOW’s.

    I haven’t been through as much of the same manipulative bulls~~~ as most of you have probably been through, due to my age. And because of this I do not know what s~~~ is still about to come. This is the very reason why I am not fully agreeing with AWALT, otherwise I would have given up already. But giving up is walking away and indeed, my embedded genes /cells still tell me to give my seed to a woman and perhaps even have a kid one day. And I would have gladly done so if society wasn’t in favor of women and what THEY want.

    Yes, love is just chemicals f~~~ing with your brain. Still I am disappointed just as many of you, that I am not able to enjoy it because I have to be on alert for making sure I don’t get f~~~ed over by the system. Wouldn’t it be great if MGTOW wasn’t even necessary? Perhaps I need to go through some additional women and their bulls~~~ before I can happily go full MGTOW and f~~~ whores for the rest of my life, because just like some here already said, I am still on the lookout for my unicorn / a “normal” 0-bulls~~~ 0-privilege women. But for now I am making my duty to life a happy life on my own.

    MGTOW is pictured as checking out of society and women’s BS, but for some reason I can’t help but feel sad, because one night stand will never completely fill my duty as a man, just fill another hole. So currently I don’t see going MGTOW as something I should be genuinely happy about, rather going MGTOW for me is something that needs to be done whether I like it or not, for my own protection. For me going MGTOW is not “choosing my own road and being happy about checking out”. It’s a necessary evil due to gruesome circumstances and refusing to take part in a society that doesn’t benefit me as a man.

    Anyway, on the positive side, I told my recent dating partner about MGTOW and not wanting a relationship, and she agreed for a major extent. Hope it was a genuine response though.

    #140962
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    Elric Greenstone
    Elric Greenstone
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    1637

    Yeah, she’s going to screw you over, friend. You’ve also given her information she’s going to use against you.

    If you’re in the Netherlands, you’re in feminist la-la land central. If you get her pregnant, she owns you for life. Your kid will be used as a weapon against you, and you’ll be fighting the state for your own money and your own progeny.

    My advice: Get a vasectomy. NOW. Not next week, not next month.

    Women always make the decisions as to when to get pregnant. Men have almost no control over this. The only control you’ve got is to not have sex with her or to get yourself snipped (it is reversable).

    No offense; I think you’re basically at the purple pill stage. That’s fine. This next relationship may teach you why we’re all here. Hopefully without your wallet being permanently emptied.

    Good luck. . . my sense is you’ll need it.

    "You can either love women, or understand women. You can't do both. Because once you understand women, you realize that there is really nothing to love."

    #141001
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    Anonymous
    3

    I firmly believe I have fully committed to the “red-pill” way of thinking. I used to be into PUA-material / techniques for many many years, and I have since been successful in getting laid and having women around me (although it also gave me a lot of headache sometimes), one-night stands, FWB and relationships . I’m glad to have pussy around whenever I feel like it. And should she give me a hard time, start manipulating me, give me bulls~~~, I would just get a new one. I have been in three relationships, and it mostly ended with a lot of manipulative bulls~~~. Since my last relationship I have stayed single (have been for 2 years now) and I have never felt better. I can now focus solely on my own well-being. I spend my money on my motorcycle, audio and stupid gadgets.

    Now it would seem I am doing fine, good job, my own place, nice car, vagina when I want. The thing is that, deep down inside I still feel that my life could potentially be better -WITH- a women I could have an intimate relationship with. I wish I could just get laid without wanting any emotional intimacy, but i’m only human. For some reason I always have better sex when i’m connected with her, I find one-night stands boring, I’d rather masturbate.

    Call me delusional, but I still think there is a woman out there that will not give me bulls~~~, manipulate me or treat me like an ATM. I’m currently dating a woman that hasn’t given me any bulls~~~ and I’m willing to give it a shot.. But as soon as she starts giving me bulls~~~, i’m out. I hope my red-pill lifestyle is compatible with my feelings. I wonder if anybody here has been though this dilemma? I sincerely think I would be unhappy if I would shove relationships aside for the rest of my life (although i’m never getting married).

    You are delusional AND pathetic.

    So you’ve been into PUAism and hooking up for “many years”, and you still think there are women out there who won’t give you bulls~~~. How f~~~ing different are you from the skanks who rode the c~~~ carousal for years and years, and still think they’re entitled to have Mr Perfect Nice Guy who will overlook their past and commit to them entirely? I’ll answer that for you, zero. You all are exactly the same. You are the male version of the feminist c~~~ carousal rider, hitting the wall and expect captain save a ho.

    Manipulation is manipulation, be it PUA techniques or female irrationalism. You only see the opposition; You being on the receiving end of female manipulation. However, do you realize what you have done as well? You better do something to undo these “years of being a PUA and f~~~ing around” that you did, before even entertaining the thought of woman giving you less bulls~~~. Because let’s f~~~ing face it, if you were a woman, you wouldn’t commit to yourself, knowing all this information. And that’s a fact.

    #141028
    The Skank Spanker
    The Skank Spanker
    Participant
    1372

    You are delusional AND pathetic.

    So you’ve been into PUAism and hooking up for “many years”, and you still think there are women out there who won’t give you bulls~~~. How f~~~ing different are you from the skanks who rode the c~~~ carousal for years and years, and still think they’re entitled to have Mr Perfect Nice Guy who will overlook their past and commit to them entirely? I’ll answer that for you, zero. You all are exactly the same. You are the male version of the feminist c~~~ carousal rider, hitting the wall and expect captain save a ho.

    Manipulation is manipulation, be it PUA techniques or female irrationalism. You only see the opposition; You being on the receiving end of female manipulation. However, do you realize what you have done as well? You better do something to undo these “years of being a PUA and f~~~ing around” that you did, before even entertaining the thought of woman giving you less bulls~~~. Because let’s f~~~ing face it, if you were a woman, you wouldn’t commit to yourself, knowing all this information. And that’s a fact.

    I can see you are offended and frustrated for whatever reason. My sister used to be like this when she didn’t get her way. Cute 🙂

    So either:
    1. you’re still a virgin or
    2. used to be one of the frustrated nice guys that never got laid
    3. undercover feminist

    Anyway. Seems you never got over it, because you carry a lot of hate in your post. Instead, you could have used that energy you wrote this rage post for much better purposes. Even though I don’t feel like putting energy into non-constructive haters like yourself I will try to talk some sense into you although I doubt it will make a difference:

    When you’re a young person trying to get laid, you go around trying to figure out what gets you pussy. I’m sure you understand. Truth is, women manipulate you, so why not feed that bulls~~~ right back to them instead of playing the nice guy. Do whatever works in order to get laid.

    #141031
    +2

    Anonymous
    3

    I give up. You’re right, I’m nothing but a nice guy virgin who can’t get laid. Carry on.

    #141793

    Anonymous
    2

    I would have to agree, I would say the skankspanker is out of wack. His/her emotions need a good kick in the pants. He/she needs a big hug. Supposed to be a real man – mgtow’s an amazing lifestyle not a chore. Calling someone a virgin and s~~~ because someone stood up to your crying? Also what the f~~~s with the smily face? F~~~ OFF?! Cute?

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