I didn't know what it was called until now

[Miles aheadParticipant 42]

Hi everyone,

 

I’ve been reading the forums for a couple of weeks now after a friend of mine had a MGTOW article posted on social media. I had a gander not knowing what is was about and the more I read, the more I became intrigued.

I’m a 27 year old guy living in one of the bigger and more modern cities in the UK. I’ve been living here since I left home to study Uni at 18. I like it here, it’s pretty comfortable and I plan to go back to Uni in September to start a course in Civil Engineering.

Anyway, I wanted to post to introduce myself before I started replying to some of the threads here. To give you a bit of a background about myself I come from a family of women, I’m 1 boy with 5 sisters, my mum was married a few times so half of them are half sisters. I’m very independent as my mum passed away about 8 years ago and I’ve never been that close to my dad so when I was 18 I was out on my own figuring out life.

It took me a long time to figure women out I suppose, not because I’m stupid, just niave. After living with a family of women for most of my young life I’m sure you can appreciate how that affected my mindset when it came to women. I was raised in a mormon family before my parents divorced aswell so I was given a value system that is very old fashioned. I identified with that for many years and found it hard to give up despite getting many strong hints that life isn’t the fairytale I had been taught.

I won’t go into too much detail about that but my MGTOW history came later on. I had a few girlfriends from 15-19, you know 3 month things when you meet someone, have fun, get bored and it’s done, nothing too serious. When I got to Uni, s~~~ just didn’t make sense to me. Everyone was being promiscuous rather than commiting (like I was taught as a kid), people saying one thing about people but then treating them in the opposite way, guys treating girls like s~~~ but getting worshipped, none of it computed. Anyway we all know how that story goes so I won’t go on, but let me say that I haven’t had a girlfriend since 21 and not because I couldn’t have had them, but I just knew that none of that s~~~ was worth my time. I’ve gone through a lot of s~~~ in my life at a young age (my mum was an alcoholic), which was a blessing and a curse, taught me a lot of life lessons but took me a while to gain self confidence. When I got my life together in my 20’s I didn’t understand why people were encouraging me to volunteer to put myself through loads of s~~~ just to get laid and say I have a girlfriend. It’s only now do I know that I was a MGTOW.

Now at 27 I’m reasonably happy now I’ve stopped worrying as much about what women think of me. I guess because I grew up in a family of women I got a lot of validation from women so it took me time to grow out of it. Looking at my friends who are in relationships it’s hard for me to see any benefit, I have a bit of fun now and again and that suits me.

I’ll be posting from time to time on here, although I have to say some of what I’ve read is pretty far out for me and is pure misogyny. I guess people have their reasons, after reading some of the threads in the marriage section I can’t say I blame people for feeling that way. Not judging anyone just making it known that I don’t fully agree with everything here. I have read a lot of interesting threads so I look forward to reading more and learning about people’s experiences with an open mind.

Anyway this went on way too long, just wanted to say hello and to pay my respects to the staff here for a nice site, looking forward to meeting some interesting people here too.

[lightParticipant 9]

Welcome aboard.

[Lazarus LongParticipant 365]

Welcome Miles,

Thank you for the introduction.

Willfully turning aside from the truth is treason to one's self. -Terry Goodkind

[BrainPilotParticipant 7640]

Welcome Miles,
The pain that results from mistakes is a very effective teacher. But you can learn from the mistakes of others with no pain at all. I’m quite a bit older than you. I wish I had had an internet and a site like this that offered me the access and opportunity to learn from the experiences of so many others when I was your age. In the interim, I’ve learned both from my mistakes, and from the mistakes of others. Learning from the experiences of others is much better…!

I won’t argue that there is some misogyny here. But I would only add that the misogyny is very often well deserved, and so advise that you try to keep an open mind…at least open enough to prevent someone ‘earning’ some of that well deserved misogyny from you. There are men posting here from places where the legal system is different from the one where you live, and encourages even worse behavior from women than you have already seen where you are. One of the most interesting things here is how similar the experiences with women can be among men who are so far geographically removed from each other.

Welcome again and looking forward to reading your posts in other threads…

Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

[Miles aheadParticipant 42]

Thanks for the welcomes guys.

Yes you’re right BrainPilot, pain is a very effective teacher but why suffer the pain if you don’t need to.

I certainly will keep an open mind here, as I do in all areas of my life, when reading about people’s experiences here and look forward to learning more about MGTOW.

[John DoeParticipant 743]

When I got to Uni, s~~~ just didn’t make sense to me.

I remember praying in my room and all of the sudden I hear people f~~~ing in the room next to mine.

I remember being kept up by phone conversations from my roommate who was trying to keep his girlfriend.  I remember trying to fall asleep while he would say things like “I love you baby” “your my hero” and so on.  I remember her bitching about how stressful her life was and used him like an emotional tampon.  She later dumped him in the first semester.

I remember having to watch where I stepped in the bathroom stalls because people jerked off everywhere.  People would wipe s~~~ all over the walls too.

I remember all the “Christian” groups pandering to women with their emo bulls~~~.

I remember all the PC bulls~~~ (which actually got worse over the years).

University is/was a joke.

Welcome aboard.

 

[RennieParticipant]

John Doe wrote:

When I got to Uni, s~~~ just didn’t make sense to me. I remember praying in my room and all of the sudden I hear people f~~~ing in the room next to mine. I remember being kept up by phone conversations from my roommate who was trying to keep his girlfriend. I remember trying to fall asleep while he would say things like “I love you baby” “your my hero” and so on. I remember her bitching about how stressful her life was and used him like an emotional tampon. She later dumped him in the first semester. I remember having to watch where I stepped in the bathroom stalls because people jerked off everywhere. People would wipe s~~~ all over the walls too. I remember all the “Christian” groups pandering to women with their emo bulls~~~. I remember all the PC bulls~~~ (which actually got worse over the years). University is/was a joke. Welcome aboard.

Then there’s all the dumb stuff people do with alcohol, like pouring it all over the floor in the frat house and sliding around it in, naked, the beer also leaked through the floor into the basement and turned rancid. Then there’s the people who trash their dorms and the people who go to Defcon and trash the hotel and rooms, racking up a gigantic bill for damages.

[John DoeParticipant 743]

Then there’s all the dumb stuff people do with alcohol, like pouring it all over the floor in the frat house and sliding around it in, naked, the beer also leaked through the floor into the basement and turned rancid. Then there’s the people who trash their dorms and the people who go to Defcon and trash the hotel and rooms, racking up a gigantic bill for damages.

+1 Rennie

I forgot about the alcoholism and drugs.  I didn’t start drinking or smoking until I went to university.  And it wasn’t to party.  I was just sick of the s~~~.  I didn’t party much and when I went I got bored quick.  Most interesting thing would be the standard hot chick dancing on a table.  But that got boring real quick.

I spent most of my time working out/studying/and pointing out the contradictions in what my professors taught in class in front of the class and professors.  Discovered MGTOW my junior/senior year.  It put words to everything I subliminally knew.

[RennieParticipant]

John Doe wrote:

Then there’s all the dumb stuff people do with alcohol, like pouring it all over the floor in the frat house and sliding around it in, naked, the beer also leaked through the floor into the basement and turned rancid. Then there’s the people who trash their dorms and the people who go to Defcon and trash the hotel and rooms, racking up a gigantic bill for damages. +1 Rennie I forgot about the alcoholism and drugs. I didn’t start drinking or smoking until I went to university. And it wasn’t to party. I was just sick of the s~~~. I didn’t party much and when I went I got bored quick. Most interesting thing would be the standard hot chick dancing on a table. But that got boring real quick. I spent most of my time working out/studying/and pointing out the contradictions in what my professors taught in class in front of the class and professors. Discovered MGTOW my junior/senior year. It put words to everything I subliminally knew.

I was about halfway through college when I found MGTOW. It appealed to me immediately and I knew it was what I wanted.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Nice introduction Miles. Thank you for joining and welcome.

Yes, MGTOW is certainly not a place for a fashionable opinion, and its one rare corner of the internet that doesn’t exist for the “LIKES”, because “likes” are too easy to generate and they don’t mean a damn thing in the grand scheme of things.

The accusation of “misogyny” is one we get often, but that’s only because there’s a huge tornado of misinformation out there which suggests you can’t criticize a female for her VERY REAL ACTIONS…….

…. and “nobody corrects them, because they want to f~~~ them”. – Bill Burr

You’ll see it in the legal system too. Man kills woman , gets life. Women kills man, and she walks because she claims “abuse”. Tell her she’s going away for life too and she will call it “sexism” and “misogyny” – which is of course, bulls~~~. That’s how you get Lindsay Lohan CRYING when she gets sentenced for very deliberately (and knowingly) breaking the law. When a man does something unacceptable you don’t see him balling his eyes out. He KNOWS he did something unacceptable. He has reason to cry when he gets slapped with 18 year of mandatory child support for a kid that isn’t even his. And if he doesn’t pay it , he goes goes to JAIL???

Only someone who isn’t aware of this reality would think “misogyny” is a problem in the world.
We’re not required to “like” that s~~~. Enter MGTOW.

A big welcome to you and join in anytime!

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[harpo-my-“SON”Participant 2410]

Welcome to mgtow miles enjoy the forum.

Some misogyny yes, but myself and many others are expressing bitterness and disgust more than any contempt or hatred. sometimes it is tough to  tell the difference. I have dealt with the unfair legal system here in the US, as well as an ex-wife who would, with-hold sex from me, but give it to others, so a certain amount of anger and bitterness should be expected. This site gives us an outlet to deal with our emotions and get over the negative feelings. I have noticed in my short time here a few including myself are slowly letting go of anger, bitterness and other negative feelings towards women. I believe my feelings towards women now are Indifference. The few women who cared about my mental and physical well-being could be counted on the fingers of one hand. I don’t have any contempt or hatred for the rest of them. The healing process takes longer I believe for men. I believe I had a much more deep feeling of love and commitment than my ex-wife or any woman for that matter is even capable of.

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

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