How to argue and always win

[harpo-my-“SON”Participant 2410]

1. be on the correct side of the truth.
2. Tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
3.demand that your opponent provide evidence to the contrary.
The truth never fails. shuts them down faster than anything.
some will abandon the argument early..
The truth is what you say it is unless I have evidence otherwise.

Love and respect

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

[MoreSkyParticipant 4865]

If I believe something to be true based on my own experience and knowledge then it is true.
If you hold a contrary position based on your experience and knowledge it is also true.

Which is THE truth?

Both or neither?

What is the difference between opinion, truth and fact?

In both cases above each holds an opinion which they believe is a fact and is the truth.

The difference between a rational man and an irrational f~~~wit is that the rational man is willing to discuss the validity of evidence contrary to his opinion even though he may believe his opinion is the truth.

Arguments amongst men (some subjects excluded) are a comparison of evidence.

Fanatics of any sort, but particularly feminists and social justice morons, will not listen to any contrary evidence – only opinion that confirms their bias.

You cannot win an argument with a fanatic as the truth is irrelevant to them, only the propagation of their perspective is important.

"...reinvent your life because you must; it is your life and its history and the present belong only to you.” It is Your Life, Charles Bukowski.

[JB BooksParticipant 3182]

If you want to have friends, always being right isn’t winning. Not that we shouldn’t have personal values, but in a world filled with many shades of gray, a lot of folks see only black and white.

We just don't realize life's most significant events while they're happening. Back then, I thought, "Well, there'll be other days". I didn't realize that that was the only day. - "Moonlight" Graham

[Solo MAN’S WisdomParticipant]

harpo-my-“SON” wrote:

1. be on the correct side of the truth.2. Tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth.3.demand that your opponent provide evidence to the contrary.The truth never fails. shuts them down faster than anything.some will abandon the argument early..The truth is what you say it is unless I have evidence otherwise.
Love and respect

This is accurate — only if you are arguing with A MAN.

Women don’t view or acknowledge “truth” the way men do.

There’s more than one kind of truth, as well.

1. Absolute Truth. This is Truth that existed in eternity past and will be true in eternity future. Design Law Truth. God’s Truth.

2. Objective Truth. This is where men live. Scientific Truth. Truth with measurable, reproducible outcomes. Truth that improves life on Earth. We strive to know & learn Absolute Truth.

3. Subjective Truth. This is where women live. Truth from TV, movies, or Cosmo. Truth overheard in the gossip section at the beauty shop. Truth that gets her what she wants, when she wants it. This cannot be stressed enough. Because what women want, and when they want it changes like the wind, SO DOES THEIR TRUTH. What’s “true” today will be false tomorrow, and partially true the following day.

For this reason: NEVER ARGUE WITH A WOMAN.

When women lead, destruction is the destination. -- Me.

[MorpheusParticipant 2177]

Also avoid arguing with idiots who just want to have the last word.

[SolidParticipant 7520]

Don’t worry about winning or losing, win/lose is about ego, and creating an ego is creating a weak point that will be exploited by someone.
Don’t debate or argue with someone unless you have an objective, and by objective I mean some common ground that you want to clarify, any debate that don’t bring progress is time wasted.

C~~~s usually try to “win” and by that they basically use all logical fallacies that they can, generating no progress after the debate.

Here is a list for members interested in reading more about it: https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/

In several fields, including science, sometimes you have “truth” but depend on who said/discovered that.
People interpret it blindly, you can have the opposite views, and still have scientific studies supporting you.
Another example, “God exist ?”, is something that you can’t prove either to be truth or false, claiming for someone to prove or prove that not exist, don’t work that way with logic.

But the most important thing about an argument or debate is, “what is there for you ?”, what you want to clarify or learn ? Or there is any other reason that will bring you something positive ? If not, don’t waste your time.

[harpo-my-“SON”Participant 2410]

Your truth is what you say it is and I would never disagree
for I respect you right to have your own beliefs.
My truth is what I say it is and its void of any lies
has anyone provided evidence otherwise?

I care not about getting the last word nor would I say my truth is evidence to dispel your truth.

“IF” I would try and take your truth away then I do not deserve to claim my own truth..

My rights end at the point they take something away from you..

I claim my truth does not steal yours.

If you would try and steal my truth you do not deserve your own..

Group-think steals individuality yet we have collectively grouped ourself at this site..

Why? For what purpose? we can only answer that as individuals..

I would like to believe its for a good purpose not an evil one.

Society or the general public has grouped all men into a stereotyped oppressive evil force.

I would love to fight against this stereotyping, but how can I from within a group-think
mentality?

It would be easy for the lot of you to attack the single me..But you could hardly take the high ground
of morality afterwards..In other words: you can gang up on anyone but not without looking like the bully.

Honestly from the heart, I love everyone of you too much to lie..

I was raised by a Real “WOMAN” and she does not deserve to be tossed in with the creatures described at this site.

Are you attacking her character? No you say. I say yes every-time someone types AWALT they are attacking her..

Her name was Mary and she was my grandmother Mary. She could be trusted with a mans heart. How do I know?
she was faithful and true to her calling all her life. Its past tense and already in evidence and cannot be changed.

“ALL THE FEMALES ARE UNDENIABLY LIKE THAT”, I will agree with that statement because it leaves my wonderful loving grandmother Mary out of the accusation.

A large group of Man hating feminist are gathered and I promise there will not be one single understanding “REAL WOMAN” among the lot of them..

This will always and forever be my truth even if none of you group-thinkers agree with me..

Your protesting at this site and doing what your protesting against.

Judging all of one gender by the actions of a few.

Is this not what we are speaking out against?

Love and respect to all without prejudice.

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

[harpo-my-“SON”Participant 2410]

I am not arguing with anyone just stating my truth and waiting for someone to attempt the theft
and thereby lose the right to their own truth..

I will always know that AWALT is false and not true for me personally..You can embrace it if you like.

NAWALT= NOT ANY WOMEN ARE LIKE THAT

ATFAULT= All The Females Are Undeniably Like That.
This leaves my wonderful grandMother out because she was a real “WOMAN”

Not asking anyone to agree or accept my truth as their own. Just respect my right to have it..

My wonderful Grandmother is the one who taught me what it is to show the greatest love
and that love is the highest authority.

No greater love hath any man to give
than he lay down his life so another may live.
The greatest authority they say is love,
no one I love more than my father above.

I AM the meek who inherited heaven on earth
what I trade it for is all my life is worth
I laid it down to let my father again live (his second coming)
To his heavenly spirit this flesh I give.

Jesus is a man and he is much more than just a human being.

If a man is more than a human being then it stands to logic and reason a WOMAN is more than a female human being..

God created man and from man created woman so Both are created but all human beings are birthed both female and male.

When do humans evolve into Men and Women? My belief is they lose selfishness and embrace selflessness at the very
moment they accept the simple truth..

Jesus is my simple truth and I found, accepted and married my truth.

Interpretation is yours, because I took liberty to interpret my truth in my favor, and give you every god given right to do the same for yourself..

For all you military men here.
5th general order of a sentry
I stood my post for a lifetime and was properly relieved by my self evident creator..

Love and respect.

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

[harpo-my-“SON”Participant 2410]

Winning is not having your truth challenged..
and the reason I said:

“Your truth is what you say it is and I will never disagree”

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

I don’t generally feel the need to persuade someone of the truth. If I know the truth and they don’t, and they are too stupid to listen, then I don’t care if they sink themselves.

On the other hand, I don’t have enough ego to try and “win” an argument since I am more interested in what the truth is — I have no loyalty to cling to false truths, and I’ll adopt someone else’s thing if it is true, because I’d rather be right in the future.

The whole cognitive dissonance thing is bad.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[ResidentEvil7Participant 9544]

I can’t stand it when people argue with me. And there’s people who argue just for the sake of it. Annoying!

https://themanszone.webs.com/

[Gravel PitParticipant]

Truth doesn’t matter. Only force and evidence hold water.

Does an antelope argue with a lion?

Take a look at how many politicians and murderers went free in the court system. There is no justice or fairness in this world. The truth exists but it’s irrelevant.

What good is “truth” when 90% of humans believe a celestial dictator is going to grant them immortality. And nearly half of them are so polluted by dogma that they think some human who was tortured to death 2000 years ago absolved them of transgressions they continue to commit.

Sorry Harpomason. I actually started my frist account here in 2014 as well. In December. I used to argue with you frequently here, along with other Christians. You’ve really fallen off the deep end lately, but you were always crazy sir.

[Freeman_KParticipant 3524]

I would hate it to always win an argument.

It would imply pretty dogmatic self-centered viewpoint.

The choices we make, not the chances we take, determine our destiny

[ChristopherParticipant 2478]

Solo MAN’S Wisdom wrote:

This is accurate — only if you are arguing with A MAN.Women don’t view or acknowledge “truth” the way men do.There’s more than one kind of truth, as well.1. Absolute Truth. This is Truth that existed in eternity past and will be true in eternity future. Design Law Truth. God’s Truth.2. Objective Truth. This is where men live. Scientific Truth. Truth with measurable, reproducible outcomes. Truth that improves life on Earth. We strive to know & learn Absolute Truth.3. Subjective Truth. This is where women live. Truth from TV, movies, or Cosmo. Truth overheard in the gossip section at the beauty shop. Truth that gets her what she wants, when she wants it. This cannot be stressed enough. Because what women want, and when they want it changes like the wind, SO DOES THEIR TRUTH. What’s “true” today will be false tomorrow, and partially true the following day.For this reason: NEVER ARGUE WITH A WOMAN.

+1 ^ and that is the truth about the truth.

Feminism was funded by bankers/politicians to create more taxpayers. MGTOW IS FREEDOM https://archive.org/details/mgtowisfreedomblurayready

[harpo-my-“SON”Participant 2410]

Gravelpit your loved even if you are making a character attack. I made it clear no one is obligated to share my beliefs
obviously you never have agreed with my point of view. I do not hold it against you nor will i call you names that
would indicate I was bringing your mental competency into question,,

Everyone else who replied gave their view without a personal attack.

Do you believe every Christian is crazy or just me?

Seems like it would be the same across the board or your picking and choosing who to diagnose with a mental condition.

are you qualified to diagnose people?

Maybe you work in a mental health center. I do not know your occupation..

Attacking the Christian faith and attacking me personally is two different things..

I respect your right to believe all Christians are crazy to have their beliefs.

I still reserve my right to believe my personal individual truth..

I do remember you gravelpit by another name and you would make the same arguments back then
that to believe in the Bible made one unstable mentally..same ole same ole character attacks..

My truth is not an argument nor an attack on anyone.

My truth is an affidavit I filed and made legal as evidence it would only be needed
in a courtroom setting should I be accused of criminal activity.
It would serve as proof only of my legal domicile and challenges jurisdiction.

you are only accusing me of a mental condition which is not a crime..

I have had a recent mental evaluation and it was found that my spiritual beliefs did not render
me incompetent mentally..

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

[harpo-my-“SON”Participant 2410]

Ranger One wrote:
The whole cognitive dissonance thing is bad.

I totally agree and Curing it can be frustration in itself.
unless I am willing to toss out learned lies
and accept new possibilities it would have been
an impossible mission..

I will listen to the reasons others have to believe the way they believe.
and come to my own logical conclusions after sifting through their reasoning..

This is what an open mind does. Hardly dogmatic and very liberal when one considers
how tolerant of others with contradictory ideas I am..

There is no spirit of coercion within me. I would never force my views or beliefs on anyone,
but I will not ever be ashamed or censored into not openly expressing them..If I am attacked
for doing so it will be by someone with the spirit of fascism and censorship inside of them..

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

[bladeParticipant]

HOW TO NOT ARGUE AND ALWAYS WIN .

F~~~ that negative energy s~~~ . I don’t get how some people just live to f~~~ing argue .

NFG

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[harpo-my-“SON”Participant 2410]

Gravelpit Wrote:
Take a look at how many politicians and murderers went free in the court system. There is no justice or fairness in this world. The truth exists but it’s irrelevant.

Murderers are criminals but are all politicians criminals?

Your truth is only irrelevant when your not allowed to tell it and the more your truth is challenged,
The more you should believe it and stand up for it, because the challengers are the selfish ones who have no good reason to take it from you, leaving them with only evil motives for not allowing you to have your own
exclusively individual truth..

Your truth is what you say it is and I will never disagree
because I respect your right to have your own exclusively individual beliefs..

Gravepit your truth will always be irrelevant until you prove to yourself that you are willing to die for it..
Until you speak it loudly and proudly how much real conviction to the truth are you showing?
until you allow it to be challenged, its a truth hidden and fearful..

Exclusively individual truth= No group-thinking bullies can take it or change it.

I will listen to anyones reasons for believing what they believe without challenging their beliefs
or their mental competency.

I will keep my truth because their is no evidence I am lying and because it has set my creative mind free..
Its with this creative mind I shall defeat the incredible accusation industry masquerading as a “JUST SYSTEM”

Love and respect

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

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