How Much Could Have Been Saved By Not Dating?

[FunInTheSunParticipant 8283]

Imagine, for a moment, that you didn’t spend money on movie tickets, restaurants, concert tickets, flowers, Valentine’s Day chocolate, and gifts for ladies from puberty until today. Imagine if all this money, that you spent trying to get a girlfriend (or trying to get her to take her panties off), was in a bank account right now. How much money do you think you’d have?

I think I’d have enough money to buy a new car: a Ford Mustang or a Dodge Challenger.

"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)

[KeymasterKeymaster]

When I was dating heavily one year, (I was in a strange city trying to build a new social circle) , I calculated I blew $12,000 in one year. I never did that again. Made me want to vomit.

If I had taken the money I wasted on an (G2) iPod (and other gifts) for a girlfriend when I couldn’t afford it, and bought Apple shares with it instead…. accounting for stock splits, I calculated it would be EASILY worth over $22,000 today.

When I was in my 20s I didn’t have much so didn’t spend much either.
But over the years, I do know, I definitely spent (and wasted) too much money.

Even if I didn’t directly spend it on women, I spent WAY too much on trying to impress them. Like good shoes. Sharp shirts. Nice watch. Nice car. New jacket. I was conscious of “what women will think”. Taking a whole afternoon to wash the car, detail it, drive to pick her up, drive back. My biggest losses where not exactly $$$$, but effort, energy and time.

If I added it up, I would be sick.

Thank you for bringing up such a painful subject.
Next time, why don’t you just give me a nice paper cut and pour lemon juice on it.

F~~~youverymuch. Have a nice day.

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On the real side, when I first heard the expression “Ignore women. Acquire money”, it hit me like a ton of bricks.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[HitmanParticipant]

it’s almost incalcuable.
a lot.
that pussy has hidden costs as well.
hotel rooms
dinners
snacks
movies
shows
all add up over time.
electricity for lights you wouldn’t have switched on.
gas for car rides
taxi fares
subway fares
tips to bartenders
drinks
condoms
morning after plan “b” pills
abortions
cards for birthdays , holidays , etc..
visits to sex shops, vibrators, batteries..
lingerie
chocolates
flowers
F~~~…i could have been a MILLIONAIRE !
and i’m SURE this list is incomplete …

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Hitman wrote:

cards for birthdays , holidays , etc..

Oh god. Tell me about it,. The f~~~ing little trinkets and the cards and cousins birthdays, and “going in for a baby shower” gift for some pregnant chick I don’t even know…. s~~~ like that. Can’t even think about it.

You guys are brutal.

This thought actually occurred to me yesterday when I saw Easter decorations going up at a store. One month it’s Christmas. Then you turn around and it’s Valentines’ day. Then Easter. Then Mother’s day. A birthday. Labor Day. Holiday. Halloween. Thanksgiving. Repeat. There’s always SOMETHING and I swear the whole system is designed bleed you.

Thankfully I broke free of it years ago and now I don’t do ANY of that s~~~.

It’s not really “the money”.
I cared way too much about “making a good impression”.

That’s what I could kick myself for.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[InfernalShadowParticipant 377]

As a proud hermit, this makes me glad I got rejected over the years while asking women out. I never spent a penny on a woman I thought was hot and wanted to f~~~. Mainly, because I was basically “Steve Urkel” growing up.

This made me very unlikable to women my own age while I was younger. Thinking back on it, this was my biggest asset in not getting screwed over by women while I was still learning about them.

[HitmanParticipant]

Keymaster wrote:

I swear the whole system is designed bleed you.

it really is !
i have minimized it to a card for my elderly mother.
home-made card for the kid.
( it does get brutal here..i wouldn’t want it any other way ! )
brutally HONEST .

[hmskl’dParticipant 6406]

I think I finally might know partially why I’m gmow. I’ve never really been able to put it into words but just thinking of the finances .. my simple little self-talk that I had while working today and thinking of the monetary cost of any relationship.
If all relationships eventually go bad, many sooner than later; then why even start one in the first place? Let’s assume something might go right short term before the trouble begins; is any of that really worth the effort? I guess I just say to myself .. why even invest anything into something that’s doomed from the start. I’ll just save my pennies and my emotions and forget it altogether. I tell myself, in the long run I’ll be much better off in every concievable way by taking the safe path of relationship avoidance.

[LurchParticipant 3866]

Don’t know about dating, but while my wife was alive I was spending pretty much everything I earned. At that point in my IT carrier, I had just moved to the US and landed a job just in the 85K to 95K range. Even with that income I was living pay cheque to pay cheque.

A year on since she passed, I’m able to service my mortgage, two personal loans I had to take out just before she passed for the fallout of expenses that followed and still be able to put a few hundred dollars away each month and spend $300 – $400 a month on ammo (partly for range practice and partly for my doomsday trading stockpile).

Yes, I am including ammunition as part of my 401K plan. Cash, Stocks, Bonds, Precious metals… and 40 S&W/45 ACP/5.56×45 caliber ammo. Speaking of which I need to diversify my portfolio and start on 9mm and .22LR ammo too, since that’s going to be in demand the most for trade.

Blue-Pill Virgin: Women hate me! That's what it is.
MGTOW Man: Hate them back; it works for me.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

I heard on the radio this morning, they quoted some study from I forget where, probably some girly website or something, that claimed while looking for a spouse the average person will blow 5 years worth of effort “dating” and spend 20,000 dollars.

They went on to say the most the average man has spend on a date was around 250 dollars, while the most the average female spent was around 90 dollars. So taking that into consideration the average man is going to be well over that 20,000 dollar “average” and females well under.

It must suck having to spend all that money just to find a woman you like enough to give her permission to f~~~ you over in divorce whenever she feels like it lol.

[revistaParticipant 232]

All these so called “independent women” are not independent on dates.they think there the prize.they can date every night of the week if they want and it wont cost them a penny.

[Won'tGetFooledAgainParticipant 3293]

The big problem with dating is that it eventually leads to marriage and that is where your big financial problems start. As a married man it does not matter how much you earn, I guarantee you will be living paycheque to paycheque. Once you get divorced you will essentially lose everything and have to start from scratch again.

Now that I am divorced I am spending 20% of my paycheck on child support/alimony, 30% on living costs for myself and I save the remaining 50%. Just imagine if I had never got married, I would be saving 70% of my salary every single month.

When I split from my ex wife I was still very much blue pill and I thought I needed to find someone else to make me happy so hit internet dating pretty hard. I would say out of 30 dates or so maybe 2 or 3 offered to go halves, the rest assumed the man would pay. I was going on 2 dates a week, usually to dinner and was probably spending £600 a month ($855 for our US brothers). For that money I might have got laid four times a month so lets say £150 a f~~~. Hell I could have paid for sex and it would have been cheaper and I wouldn’t have had to put up with the woman’s company for the evening.

But when you get married that is a whole new level of cost. Add together the additional hit to your salary (as I said, all married men are constantly broke) and the hundreds of thousands of pounds you will have to give up when you divorce, I would guess it will cost you around £500 per f~~~ in the long run.

I guarantee that paying for sex upfront is cheaper in the long run than getting it “for free”

For women, everything eventually boils down to Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.

[FunInTheSunParticipant 8283]

Keymaster wrote:

Taking a whole afternoon to wash the car, detail it, drive to pick her up, drive back. My biggest losses where not exactly $$$$, but effort, energy and time.

Yeah, I had a routine on date nights too: wash & vacuum the car, shower/shave/aftershave lotion, brush my hair, wear some nice clothes, look at myself in front of a mirror for five minutes, and then go to the ATM to stuff my wallet with cash.

"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)

[FunInTheSunParticipant 8283]

Hitman wrote:

that pussy has hidden costs as well.

Yeah, I forgot to mention the cost of hotel rooms, boxes of condoms, and filling up your gas tank for scenic drives.

How much do you guys hate me now? ;^)

Today I was reading an article in Forbes magazine and I came to the conclusion that I ought to be putting my extra money into buying stocks in oil drilling companies. I wish I did that 20 years ago or saved up to buy some rental property. I’d feel much better about my life if I was getting dividends instead of spending it on women who will complain about me.

"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)

[FunInTheSunParticipant 8283]

Won'tGetFooledAgain wrote:

I guarantee that paying for sex upfront is cheaper in the long run than getting it “for free”

Yeah, the only guys I see getting free sex are the thugs or the rich & famous.

"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)

[hollowtipsParticipant 681]

I’m only 22 and over the past 4 years of being in a relationship it’s probably cost me 12-20 thousand dollars.

If men didn’t date till their 30’s and saved their whole 20’s they’d all be middle class and rich by their 40’s.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

hollowtips wrote:

If men didn’t date till their 30’s and saved their whole 20’s they’d all be middle class and rich by their 40’s.

Why start then? I’d rather just say hey, I’m in my 30s, I have a boatload of money…guess I’m going to retire super f~~~ing early and go f~~~ a bunch of prostitutes in a foreign country where its legal. F~~~ing prostitutes is cheaper than dating and you run a lower risk of catching STDs vs f~~~ing random Ameriskanks.

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