How much can you save by going MGTOW?

[SOLI2DEParticipant 745]

You can save…YOUR ENTIRE LIFE

“Do not give your strength to women, nor your ways to that which destroys kings.” -Proverbs 31:3-

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

Going MGTOW and NOT getting locked up in prison for being unemployed and overdue on child support, resulting in being anally raped in prison…

Priceless.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[HermitParticipant]

I had no house payment when I was married, but never had any money. Now I have a house payment and I’m spending more than I ever did before, but I also have more money in the bank than I ever had before. I never really spent much money on fun things when I was married. Lately I’ve been spending tons on my hobbies and going out to eat all the time, but yet my bank account is still growing.

Electricity, gas, water, food…..all that for three people must’ve really added up when I was the only one working and paying all the bills for a family. Now it’s just me and all the expenses are a fraction of what they were, even with a house payment that I never had.

I’m saving money without even trying. However, I’m going to open up a savings account again and save even more. Didn’t seem to work when I was married. Always had to keep taking money out for a variety of reasons. If I can save up enough and get this new house paid off extremely early, s~~~, I’ll feel like I’m rich without that house payment.

The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.

[ArcturisParticipant 2819]

chir wrote:

I like to measure the impact of a wife free life in extra years of freedom I’ll have. If lack of wife will save me about 2-3 million over a life time in expenses and missed years of compounding, we’re suddenly talking about being able to retire 20-30 years early. There isn’t a pussy on this earth good enough to make me want to punch a clock for an extra 20-30 years.

This is a HUGE lightbulb moment for me. If the money saved has an early compound effect, everything else does as well.

Happiness x10

SOLD.

Protect Your Sovereignty. Women WILL TRY To Manipulate You. #NOCONTACT #ICETHEMOUT

[Gravel PitParticipant]

You can save alot by kicking alcohol too. I had to of spent over 20k or more just from age 18-27.

Still trying to kick tobacco which costs me a grand a year easy….

But I spend all that money on other s~~~ now, least I got something to show for it besides a bad liver though.

[Anonymous 3]

Wally wrote:

I think Keymaster once said you can easily have an extra 350K by age 50 by not having a wife.

I (indenpendently of him, with similar result) wrote a topic on this, it will be well in six figures (in US$) for the next decades for me (also counting all lost free time at minimal wage at least!) and I’m in a sort-of poor Eastern European country. I guess you are already millionaires in that matter.

Decision of going MGTOW saved me six figures

chir wrote:

Living decently for a man is f~~~ing inexpensive!

Yes it is!

Anonymous wrote:

I put about a third of my net each month into savings. .

I am putting 2/3 of it, if I push harder it can be 3/4 some months. And not owning, just renting a cheap small apartment yet. At the end of this year, I may have collected enough cash to buy a cheap small apartment or mini-house out in the woods(for circa $15-20k, without mortgage-it is a too much risk).
It is good to be a hardworking and well-paid (on the local scale, you on the other side of the planet would be broke with that salary…) minimalist mgtow guy in a cheap cost-of living country.

Anonymous wrote:

I have easily 3 months of living expenses in my checking.

I have now enough for years of living. Even if due to some bad s~~~ I would lose my job, I’d have enough time to figure s~~~ out and move to another city or country, or change carrier. (That’s why I don’t buy home on mortgage, I know it’s more expensive this way but it’s more safe also.)

Anonymous wrote:

It is true money doesn’t buy happiness but it sure as s~~~ can remove a lot of stress. I don’t have emergencies, just s~~~ that costs me money.

Money can buy whisky and all the hobby fun stuff and activities one can imagine. Money can buy safety against big part of bulls~~~ and unfortunate events in life. Money can (in many cases) buy one’s freedom.

Secret Agent MGTOW wrote:

Second vehicle of new and expensive variety for her.

I don’t even need a first vehicle for that few miles of ride to here and there and prefer to breathe some fresh air in the mornings before work. No need to brag for anyone with a chick-magnet car, and even if I needed a car I wouldn’t buy one worth more than a second-hand car for $3k or so. (need to learn for the driving licence first… that is so corrupt here everyone fails exam like 4 times, even guys …)

Secret Agent MGTOW wrote:

Larger home than you otherwise would need.

Yes. I sleep on a cheap inflatable bed now. I only sleep on the couch when air bed leaks and needs to be glued. I am so minimalist that I can once move all my stuff to new home by bike.

Secret Agent MGTOW wrote:

Kids. Thats 300-400 thousand per child right there. Easily.

Kids can eat up exactly all the money left in the budget. no stepping forward in decades.

Secret Agent MGTOW wrote:

theres your life insurance policy.

Life insurance? I don’t want anyone be happy if I die! (I just have the typical medical insurance (that everyone pays here on country level))

Secret Agent MGTOW wrote:

Freeman_K wrote:

You can save a lot but in my opinion what you save on emotional level is even greater in worth.

You can’t put a price on freedom. Emotional, financial, psychological, political.

Very true! I can confirm that, I’m lot happier since I don’t have any nagging drama girl in my life (who once pretended to be my best friend to extract all the life out of me).

[Won'tGetFooledAgainParticipant 3293]

If you are married then it doesn’t matter how much you earn you will live paycheque to paycheque as your wife spends all your money on useless s~~~ to impress friends on Facebook. Once she wants Chad again and divorce rapes you, you will be giving away a house and 30% of your future earnings minimum.

As has been said already, women consume 80% of the worlds resources, if it wasn’t for women then every shopping mall in the world would close down in a month.

Men need very little money to live, if you never get married you can easily save 50% of your salary and I see no reason why you couldn’t retire at 50.

For women, everything eventually boils down to Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.

[Y_Participant 4591]

I look at this a little differently.

There is no way I can cost my total and absolute independence to do what I want – when I want- how I want.

I have lived with nothing but a few coins – I was happy.
I later decided to get a place to live as I was getting on – no problem
I can look forward to my future knowing whatever my financial condition is, I am ok and no one will hassle me about it and that I can always get by.

Hope this helps. Cheers.

[LionOnTheLooseParticipant 1315]

Awesome to see brothers in such great financial situations here. Doesn’t cash mount up when you don’t have the “leakage” caused by a c~~~?

I’m inclined to go with Beer and Leo the Wise here and say it’s worth thinking about working to a point where you don’t need to accumulate more cash.

I think there’s a bit of a tension here in MGTOW. There are lots of good reasons to work as a man, particularly the satisfaction of doing something well, doing something you love. Then again, I think as men we need to be wary of our blue pill programming, which teaches us that it is good to produce, because production is providing. Even if we’ve got over the “I need to provide” programming, I think there’s still a tendency in men to stay in that production mode. Why keep generating more cash? What’s it for?

If we really want to check out of the system, that means checking out of the whole economy. The economy is geared towards the c~~~: consumption generates taxes, which funds c~~~s and their babies. Why are governments so worried about economic growth? Because they need it to fund the welfare state.

This is why I think MGTOWs need to check out of the whole system. Yes, free yourself from individual c~~~s. But then, free yourself from c~~~s in general. The more you work, the more tax you pay, and the more that funds the c~~~ocratic system. You are indirectly paying for Chad’s babies with your tax dollars. As a MGTOW, I object to that.

I’m in the fortunate place that I own my own house outright now. I’m now in the process of reducing my outgoings as much as possible. I’m freelance, and I’m currently at the point now where I can live for a year off the work I do in about 40 days. I plan to bring that down further, both by doing more lucrative work (my most lucrative work pays about 7% of my annual budget with one day’s work, so in theory I could live off 14 days’ work/year at that rate) and by continuing to reduce my outgoings. I don’t own a car, don’t smoke, don’t drink much, don’t travel much, don’t socialise much, eat well but cheaply. And I don’t go anywhere near women. I’ll probably cancel my phone contract at some point, start growing more food now I have a garden. Pretty much all I want to do is keep studying music. I would be quite happy talking to no-one: as it is, I have gone for at least a month at a time with no human contact. I love it. (But I realise I’m a bit unusual…)

I agree with what’s been said about living off passive investment income. I’m getting to the point where I’ll be able to do that soon, and I’m only 36. That said, the work I do is stuff that I enjoy, and I will keep doing it, and keep minimising the work I don’t enjoy. But I can work without reaching the first tax band (£11,500 here in the UK). That’s a good place to be. Ultimately I hope I can get much closer to going completely ghost.

Wishing everyone well with their financial journeys.

There aren't holes in your pockets. It's called marriage.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

LionOnTheLoose wrote:

But I can work without reaching the first tax band (£11,500 here in the UK). That’s a good place to be.

Its always smart to think about the tax brackets. I know here if all my income is long term capital gains(as in dividends on any stock I’ve held for at least a year) I can make a little over 50,000 before I’m liable for any taxes.

A lot of people will say 50,000 a year isn’t enough to retire…but realistically I’d have the same amount of money in my pocket that someone making 70-80k a year has after taxes, and ironically a 70-80k a year income here is above average and many would consider that a solid income. I’m not sure who is more of a financial leech, the government, or the average woman, but I intend to do whatever is legally in my power to let them leech as little as possible.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

Beer wrote:

ironically a 70-80k a year income here is above average and many would consider that a solid income. I’m not sure who is more of a financial leech, the government, or the average woman, but I intend to do whatever is legally in my power to let them leech as little as possible.

Well said BEER. Some people have pretty high standards for buying inconsequential stuff like groceries and then there are complete idiots who hemorrhage cash with car leases, jewelry, you name it.

I can survive on very little and my main thing is, I do not start contracts or monthly auto-withdrawal crap. Stuff like: Gym membership, Xbox Subscription, At&T fiberoptic/TV package, car payment & insurance…you name it, I have NONE of those things lol. I’m pretty fortunate to be in a situation where I can simply drive a scooter (low insurance cost/high mileage) and use internet at work liberally.

My brother who makes twice as much as me a year, can’t figure out how I stay afloat with a mortgage to pay. LOL, it’s because I don’t lease new cars or sign up to stupid crap like Gym membership, go hit the bike path for free.

[MonkParticipant 16982]

Arcturis wrote:

I gets taken direct from my paycheck so I never see it anyway.

If it goes the way of so many other company pension funds, you’ll never see it.

I would pay the legally required minimum and put spare money elsewhere.

[LionOnTheLooseParticipant 1315]

Monk wrote:

Arcturis wrote:

I gets taken direct from my paycheck so I never see it anyway.

If it goes the way of so many other company pension funds, you’ll never see it.

I would pay the minimum and put spare money elsewhere.

Of course, you might take the view (I know a lot of prepper MGTOWs do) that civilisation as a whole is going south big-time, so forget investments and invest in self-sufficiency: stockpile water, tinned food, guns, learn bushcraft etc.

I’m personally inclined to do a bit of both. People who don’t prep are effectively betting on our Western economies by default, so if you’re going to do that then why not do it properly and get exposure to the stock market. But you can also hedge that bet by stockpiling supplies and preparing for the Great Collapse.

There aren't holes in your pockets. It's called marriage.

[LionOnTheLooseParticipant 1315]

Beer wrote:

Its always smart to think about the tax brackets. I know here if all my income is long term capital gains(as in dividends on any stock I’ve held for at least a year) I can make a little over 50,000 before I’m liable for any taxes.

A lot of people will say 50,000 a year isn’t enough to retire…but realistically I’d have the same amount of money in my pocket that someone making 70-80k a year has after taxes, and ironically a 70-80k a year income here is above average and many would consider that a solid income. I’m not sure who is more of a financial leech, the government, or the average woman, but I intend to do whatever is legally in my power to let them leech as little as possible.

Thanks, I agree about tax bands! 70-80K is lavish compared to my life…very nice, sir.

Here in the UK, you can invest up to £20K every year in an ISA, which can be shares as well as cash, and both income and gains are shielded from the taxman unless you take them out of the ISA. If you paid in £20K a year and invested it wisely, you could end up with a six- or seven-figure capital sum in there tax-free.

There aren't holes in your pockets. It's called marriage.

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