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My fellow MGTOW I would like to ask for your advice: How do you stay strong when life feels like it’s pushing you down? I feel like I’m falling behind in life and would really like to commit suicide. I’m 20 years old, turning 21 in July, I’ve given up hope on women, dating, and marriage, I’ve been unemployed for a year, and I’m not even close to finishing college yet. Can anyone give me some good advice to lift my spirit?
I hate to break it to you, but what people call "love" is just a chemical reaction that compels animals to breed. It hits hard Morty then it slowly fades leaving you stranded in a failing marriage. I did it. Your parents are going to do it. Break the cycle Morty, rise above, focus on science. -Rick Sanchez
I can tell you from experience that sometimes life does seem to constantly beat you down. There was a point in my life where I considered suicide. It was when I thought there was no hope left for a life. Then I started talking to friends and family and the urge left and has stayed gone. Hang in there it’ll get better.
"Life is the future, not the past." Wizard's 7th rule, Terry Goodkind
Life is suffering. Life is pain. Growing is painful. Sadly, you’re dealing with the hardness of life without the familiar support you need. I can relate. People push you around and try to convince you that there’s something wrong with you. It’s hard not to internalize this though because you wonder why you get picked on no matter what you do, and others do not.
I say this, that you should become a student of life. Learn what you can about people. Try to figure them out as much as possible before you die.
You can start with the Scott M. Peck books. He wrote a series of them starting with The Road Less Traveled. His books are laden with bad Christian theology but if you can get around that, then his books are excellent read. Don’t let his theology confuse you, it’s not Christian, but really just Hinduism. I suggest starting with those books.
In time, you’ll start to separate your internal world and external world because you’ll learn the true dynamics and the truth behind them. You’ll see how people really are, how they manipulate and blind themselves.
However, do be careful not to develop a victim complex. It’s easy to get one.
The situation your in now, is actually going to help you! The best part, you hit it at 20. You think that you’re the only one getting the “s~~~” of life; some fall in s~~~ and come out smelling like a rose, I used to think; I would fall in s~~~, but instead, fall over the guide rail and down over 1000 vertical feet into a river of s~~~…LOL. It will get better! I hit a situation much like yours…at 25, same thing lost/sold what I could, the job I worked at burned down, couldn’t leave the area, Landlord would not get me out of the lease, worked at a call center and, applied to “seasonal” jobs. This slump you hit will get you out of your comfort zone, you’ll be surprised how you can manage! On that note don’t be concerned with “unemployment” getting a minimum wage job is harder then a “career base”, it’s rather silly, you’ll jump through more hoops trying to get hired at dollar general, then computer programming as an example. If you desperately need a job now, living on your own…try a seasonal job, they are usually walk in! just show up. If your with parents/family members, just really buckle down in school and make that “your job”. YOU are NOT in a bad spot really, yeah it does suck! imagine this happening when your 50!? you hit “rock bottom” young it only happens once, that will teach you to survive, and you learn a lot about yourself!
I want to let you know man, I’m only a year older than you, and I f~~~ed up a lot worse than you did. I was in jail a couple years ago, but I’ve managed to turn my life around in a major way just by finding a very cheap place to live, taking in roommates, and getting a s~~~ty job with plenty of hours. I know you may have mental woes. All the time you spend working helps to distract you from your problems, and the income keeps you comfortable physically while you try to find yourself mentally. You said you’ve been unemployed for a year. That’s honestly not a huge deal, just say you were going to school so you quit your job, and then school ended and you couldn’t find another one. Honestly as someone who is your age the best thing you can do to help yourself to find peace of mind is just get on your grind. I work 60 hours a week, I don’t have time to worry or be depressed.
I feel like I’m falling behind in life
..there is no such thing as falling behind in life. I wish I were your age again. My first job was shoveling ‘fly ash’ from the bottom of a boiler at a coal fired power station. Eventually, I was promoted to painting pipes and after about three years got hired by the same company to work as a clerk in their office. I scrimped and saved my money and paid for my undergraduate college when I was in my mid to late twenties. Like I said above, I envy you as you have the whole world ahead of you. We never even had the internet until after college. Just the fact that you have an internet connection gives you so many advantages. Concentrate on the (can do’s) four or five little things you can do tomorrow to make your new life better … when you get up tomorrow, make a short list. One might be as simple as arranging your desk. One might be just to take a walk and get out of the house. Sometime, when you’re ready, see if their is a job you could start doing within walking distance or short bike commute from home. One of my best buddies started bagging groceries at a local food store when he was young. He is now produce manager for the entire grocery chain and is married to my former classmate. One of my neighbor’s kids went into two year course in HVAC ..now driving around in a shiny van servicing heating and air conditioning systems ..including mine. Don’t dwell on what you can’t do right now … list four little (can do’s) tomorrow morning and get started on your new adventure ..as far as giving up hope on women, I’m happy to say haven’t had a real date for about as long as I can remember 🙂 <<
I feel like I’m falling behind because I flunked out of college once already. Really appreciate all the advice you guys have to offer. I’m open to hearing more words of wisdom if anyone reading this topic has something to share.
I hate to break it to you, but what people call "love" is just a chemical reaction that compels animals to breed. It hits hard Morty then it slowly fades leaving you stranded in a failing marriage. I did it. Your parents are going to do it. Break the cycle Morty, rise above, focus on science. -Rick Sanchez
I have given up all hope on women, dating, and marriage as well. Only it happened to me when I was about 27. But it still made me sad, very sad. Made me a drunk. Now I am 41 and I finally just do not give a s~~~ anymore. Really. I haven’t had a drink in 3 years, and feel just fine without it. I no longer care bro, I no longer care. And that’s the thing. When you don’t care, you won’t feel that constant heavy wet blanket over your head.
That’s the best way I can describe the feeling. Like a heavy wet blanket over your head that constantly makes you feel like something is wrong with you. Something is wrong with your life. There is emptiness in your life.
Get rid of that wet blanket man. It ain’t gonna do you any good.
Ok, so you flunked out of college. Is college really the answer to all your prayer’s?
Find something you want to do with your life. And then do it. That’s it. It’s as simple as that.
Travel. Have hobbies. Get into a sport or athletic endeavor (even if its just working out in the gym). Get a career and make some money. Do women. Don’t get serious about any of them. Just do them. Get a dog. Have something to look forward to, such as saving up to buy a nice truck or something. And that’s it. That’s all the advice I have for you.
Women are parasites. Each and every last one of them.
One thing I’ve learned in life is to avoid comparing your situation to anyone else’s or feel that you’re “behind” in life. The only ones who are “ahead” in life are those who are dead. As long as you’re still on the playing field, you’re still in the game. There will always be those who are better off and worse off than you. In 100 years, nobody is going to care about that anyway.
I just view life as a learning experience, a way of gaining knowledge. You may feel down because you sense something seriously wrong with everything you’ve been socialized and conditioned to believe.
Society pressures us to conform, go to college and/or do some sort of job, get married, have 1.5 kids, get the house with the white picket fence, etc. I think we all set these milestones in our life, expecting to be a certain point at a certain age, while feeling behind if we haven’t reached it. There’s also pressure to keep up with the Joneses, where it’s not enough to just have enough – one has to have more than one’s neighbors in order to feel more “fulfilled.” It’s really a terrible trap to fall into. It’s part of the reason why, in a so-called “Land of Plenty,” there’s so much unhappiness.
I’m not sure what your living situation is or if going back to college is an option. If you’re having difficulty finding paid employment, you might consider doing volunteer work. Depending on what you choose, volunteer jobs can sometimes translate into paid employment. Not everyone is necessarily cut out for college. But if you pick a field and stick with it, even if you start out at the bottom, there’s a chance to learn, gain more expertise, and move up.
You are here. That is best move No1.
You opened up .. No2
Already you are moving in the right direction. Small steps but in the right way.
Go find the thread on suicide and read what the guys have said. Guys that have been so so close … but are still here ….. and not just living but thriving.
Inside you … right now … is a warrior. You don’t know that … but we do… because we are also warriors.
How do you find him? … simple. Start doing warrior things.
1. Shut out surrounding noise of idiots.
2. Focous on your path/plan
3. Train to stay fit and build the machine
4. Eat good food for your body & mind
5. Sleep to recharge the warrior
6. Educate yourself on the ‘system’
7. Be proud. Stand tall like rock
8. Ignore the fools as you walk amongst them. They are sheep
9. Have honour for yourself
10. Go Your Own Way
11. Chuck out TV and main stream media. READ.
Not very long ago I was sitting on a stair rail with a rope around my neck.
I am now a warrior ☺
Subscribe to messenger rising on youtube. He’s got some experience there to straighten you out.
He’s talking about suicide and outlook on life coming back from real dark places.
Life is too valuable to waste it on females in any way. Stop your brain from seeing them as a cornerstone of everything.
If he can’t get you straight – I don’t know who could.I’ve been an atheist my whole life until two years ago. I was in withdrawals from alcohol cocaine and pills and had a revelation in my dreams. My life has changed. I got baptised and started coming to church every Sunday. It helped me a lot. God’s Grace and staying humble – this is what helped me to stay strong, but results may vary
proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

Anonymous0Hi Bl4ckSh33p
first welcome to MGTOW.I feel like I’m falling behind in life
This is maybe why you compare others, in your eyes successfully guys and their life, with your present Situation. Doing this is the best thing to live a distressed life. So stop this immediately. O.k. easy to say but you must ( I hate the Phrase “you must” but here it is necessary), so you must stop thinking this way. Look to the good things in your life, look to your successes. There is something you can be proud of it, I am sure. Maybe in your childhood when you did shoot your first Soccer Goal, climbed the highest trees or when you dived to the ground of the depest swimming pool. In your teenage years, maybe you did repair something in your parents house, or doing gardening very well, setting up your PC by yourself, maybe you survived this god damned blizzard which astonished you while you are walking outside in the wild nature. Repeat it again and again. YOU MADE IT. Never withdraw from life.
like to commit suicide. I’m 20 years old, turning 21 in July
This is hard stuff. In my younger years I also thought about suicide very often, how to do it, how to make it looks like as an accident etc. Today I am glad that I didn’t do it.
A Question: Is this the first time that you think about suicide?
One Thing is sure, thoughts about it never left me. When I was in your age I thought I am not good enough, something is wrong with me, I didn’t deserve fun, luck and all the good things in life. Every time when something went wrong I fall back in this thoughts, it was easy but never good.
Than I thought a relationship can solve this poblem. Absolutely Wrong. The feelings are coming from inside and only you can change it. When you share this thoughts of suicide, People around you feel that there is something with you and they turn away. This will increase the power of your bad thoughts.
Find a Hobby, put your efforts in things you are interested in. Maybe you like the nature, take a camera and practice how to make real good photos. Maybe you are interested in mechanics or in electronics, maybe in PC stuff or programming micro-controllers and set up robots or vehicles. What about flying a quadrocopter an optimising it? There are so much things in this world, but you have to start by yourself, not expecting that anyone is helping you or making compliments, this will come later. Try it, you will see.
You are born in July, I am too. CANCER – zodiac sign. Normally I am not so in this astrology stuff but there are some singularities. Cancers are very sensitive, dreamers, easy offended but well organised and very busy. Always thinking about something very deeply he don’t like Pec~~~s and loudmouthes but he loves to love and to be loved. Normally not interested in a short term relationship or ONS.Maybe you check your chinese zodiac-sign. In my case I am a goat, the element is fire. All clear, bleating all the time and a temperament like a Landmine. LOL.
I’ve given up hope on women, dating, and marriage
That’s not the worst thing to do, especially giving up in marriage. But you should not complete giving up in women. You are young pal, and you desrve the fun you can have with them. Like I said, love to love and to be loved, it is not easy not to get involved emotionally too much but it is possible. You should give yourself a little bit more time.
I’m not even close to finishing college yet
I am not sure if I get you right here. Education is important. When you are living in a place on this earth where education is possible, use it as much as you can. A lot of people on this world have no education or living in countries where education is not welcome, hence those people have less or no chances in life.
May I could help you a little bit.
Once again: Never withdraw from life, Never, and welcome on board

Anonymous13Josey Wales: Now remember, when things look bad and it looks like you’re not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean. I mean plumb, mad-dog mean. ‘Cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live nor win. That’s just the way it is.
Hell no on the wellbutrin, it makes most men cumm in their pants at night during a wet dream. Also, it makes you hypersexual, so, as a MGTOW, definitely a NO (in most cases) on wellbutrin. Go to a support group for men, alcoholics anonymous with just men, a Men’s group at a church, and work out in some facet or another, get into fishing…hell…maybe even yoga.
Don’t worry man, I am almost failing out of college. I don’t know where my kids are, I don’t know where their crazy mother took them this time, who is watching them…when I’ll see them…I am behind in homework for college and I called in sick to work…I got drunk and spent a lot of my cash a few nights ago…worked out today, but I mostly wasted my time on the internet. But, wait…isn’t it MY time?! Isn’t this YOUR time?! F~~~ the world’s expectations make some for YOURSELF, like a true entrepreneur, just do your best without crowding YOUR own time that YOU need.
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