How can I feel somewhat "prejudice" towards females without feeling guilty?

[bcrogerParticipant 113]

Hey, I am a 0 year old college student who has recently joined this forum.

Firstly I don’t hate females. I tell people that I  don’t think that men a need women, and that women only make mens lives worse,. I tell them that I would not vote for a female (as an independent leaning democrat, I would never vote for Hillary) but that they should be allowed to run for office, or think that they are not as capable as men are. I think they should be free to do what they please though.

 

When I tell other men this, they point out to the fact that I am a black male, and historically we have been discriminated against in this country, or that what I am saying is wrong or that men really need women. This causes me to feel somewhat guilty about my feelings and beliefs, even though its true. How can I get over some of this guilt? Thoughts?

[WolveParticipant 191]

I would want to help you more but you don’t give an awful lot of background information so I have a hard time pinpointing what is making you feel guitly exactly (the people, having the ideas in the first place etc) but here are a few tips I have used to overcome similar problems.
1: just sitting down when your feeling guilty and asking yourself honestly without actually wanting to know why but just out of curiosity: “Why am I feeling guilty?” and focusing solely on that emotion. Knowing why I am feeling guitly helped me come to terms with it but it may not for you so number

2. Learn new things look around you adapt your believes based on what you experience learn, adapt and evolve. The more you watch what is happening around you and connect reality with what you have learned the less you will feel guilty about it because you KNOW it is a fact. You have seen it with your own 2 eyes and it is them who should feel guilty for (and this is presumption on my side) shaming you telling you how bad others had and you are making it worse for them by not believing what they believe.
Which of course is absolute bs no offense to your friends but pointing out how bad blacks had it historically has nothing to do with your believes. It is just another logical fallacy attacking the persons (your) character: ad hominem.

3. Just tell them straight up your beliefs and don’t be shy about it, true friends accept you for who you are and don’t leave or dislike you just because of what you have experienced or what you belief let alone a prejudice.
They won’t try to change you either so those who leave were not your friends to begin with. I personally get really p~~~ed when someone just acts like he is a friend and then tries to change me into a person that fits him/ her/ society  trying to shame me into it.

Well that is what changed me but if this doesn’t help I don’t mind having a personal conversation I am pretty confident in my ability to help people overcome problems like these so just tell me if you need or want any further help :).

[QcummerParticipant 652]

If you can’t take the heat, don’t step in the kitchen. Nobody gives a s~~~ about your beliefs unless they feel threatened by it. Ain’t it just better to not talk about such things around certain people? “Bitches ain’t nuthin’ but hoes ‘n tricks” – Snoop Dogg. You think he feels guilty rappin’ that? Hell no, and bitches love him. 🙂

[FermatParticipant 3478]

@bcroger I too am a black male. I am Nigerian and have lived in America for 22 years. I will tell you this: within the black community, educated and successful black men are a rarity and you are a prize. Focus strictly on your studies and opportunities that will guarantee you success. It has worked for me. Many young women will overvalue themselves in your lives and try to say that based on your biological need to reproduce, you therefore need a woman, thus painting you as the needy victim. This is female behavior: using shaming language and psuedo-biology to make men want them. A man who sees past the nonsense, especially a black man, is seen as a crazy person, when in fact, they have access to a secret database of knowledge their peers will never understand. You are on your way to understanding the difference between your biological need to have sex and the need for a female to boost your ego in order to leech off of you. Once you have established this important difference, you will be well on your way to seeing marriage to women as social/financial/emotional/mental/ and (physical) suicide.

I am West African. I am from a culture that promotes marriage because in my home country, it is the best way to boost your social and financial status. This is prostitution: trading reproductive rights for financial/social status. I no longer buy into the institution o marriage because i have seen it for what it truly is. You can too,. The guilt you are feeling is a combination of social engineering and your lizard brain telling you that you need a woman. Once you recognize that the media is influencing you, a black man, to acquire wealth and lots of women, and that your lizard brain is primitive and will not contribute to your intelligence, the guilt will subside. Also, restrict how much you say to your peers about your personal view on females. It will not strengthen your belief in going your own way. Rather it will cripple it. Keep doing you and achieve success in your life. Live by example and show that you are sufficient without women and don’t falter in your beliefs. People will notice and will understand how different you are. Believe me.

I have discovered a truly remarkable list of reasons why women are not necessary for a happy life, but alas this margin is too small to contain it.

[Anonymous 0]

bcroger wrote:

I think they should be free to do what they please though.

You’re not trying to put any constraints or limits on women. They’re free to do what they want. So you don’t have any reason to feel guilty; you’re not troubling them in any way. You just don’t want them running *your* life and meddling in *your* affairs. They don’t have the same background, and they end up not understanding where you’re coming from. So frankly you don’t trust them.

Also, a history of discrimination doesn’t necessarily make blacks and women natural allies. Feminism tends to be about “playing the victim” and using guilt as a lever. Maybe you’re not into that mentality. If that’s the case, tell them you’re a strong, independent man, and you’re not into blaming and shaming others to try to get an advantage.

Or maybe you’re fine with the “victim” tactics, but you don’t agree with the specific advantages that they’re trying to win. If you don’t benefit by what they do, why should you support them?

Just make a strong statement of where you’re coming from and what you want to achieve in the world. If women or feminists aren’t helping you get there, then the hell with them. They’re just shaming you and using you to get what *they* want.

[RoyDalParticipant]

Feelings: Your feelings are the creation of your brain chemistry. Provided you do not nurture them, they will dissolve as the glands involved run low on juice — and they will be replaced by other feelings, usually the opposite of the first ones.

So … the secret is to ride out the roller coaster of feelings, with all its ups and downs, until you are in an emotional place that is comfortable once again.

Ideally, this will be a place that allows you to make rational choices with feelings only one component of the decision making factors, and a minor component at that.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[bcrogerParticipant 113]

* I am a 20 year old college student (sorry my keyboard is f~~~ed up)

Thanks for the replies everyone. I will keep all this in mind. Keep em coming.

[Robert HallamParticipant 696]

Well I graduated from university many years ago and I have a lot of experience dealing with women. wives, girlfriends, mothers, daughters, cashiers, bank tellers, and on and on.  I too.

What I mean is I don’t exactly hate women, but I dislike them for what they are, how they think, how they learn to deal with situations and things, how they learn to manipulate people, what they talk about, etc, etc, etc. and above all else how they have been able to get away with it.  They just plain p~~~ me off.

So don’t apologize for, or feel guilty ab0ut, your opinions.  I get my own back by preying on their weakness; being addicted attention seekers.  They constantly need to be validated by being told they are beautiful, sexy, and intelligent.  I get what I want and then kick them to the curb.

I can tell you, guys who don’t see it are the ones who forgive unfaithful wives and take them back or find themselves raising someone else’s progeny. If you look at women with a jaundice eye you’ll be a lot better off.   The guys that don’t see it are the ones running around buying women drinks, driving them home, just to get a peck on the cheek.

[Anonymous 0]

Tell them that there are a lot of excellent causes and charities out there (save the whales, save the baby seals, save the nukes, nuke the whales, etc.), and your time and resources are limited. If you’re going to commit to a cause, the cause really has to speak to you.

Furthermore, it shouldn’t be taken for granted that men (black or white) would have women’s backs on this one, especially when the whole point of feminism is to claim that men are discriminating against women and to lobby for laws that hamstring or disenfranchise men.

Tell them they need a hell of a lot better rationale than they’re offering so far.

[Anonymous 11]

Cultivate a mindset where you really don’t care about what other people think. They will never have your best interests in mind anyway.

The only exception is for anyone who pays you money. Then you give the precise minimal amount of caring needed to keep them giving you money.

Would you feel guilty about being prejudiced towards a crocodile that would happily make dinner out of you? Simply substitute Women/White Knights/The Legal Farce System/Manginas etc for crocodiles.

[Puffin StuffParticipant 25019]

There is an old adage that states that a man needs a woman helper to be a success. I mentioned this to my 34 year old married, one child another on the way, godson and he agreed that a man needs a woman. He said he would be lost without his wife.

I told him that I thought he would do just fine.

He is brainwashed as are most men by women on purpose to suit their needs. Men are no longer able to speak to boys and young men, especially in work circles.

Look at the public blaming and shaming of famous genius men recently. The nobel prize winner and the man who landed a probe on a comet. This was done on purpose to teach the rest of men that great accomplishments will be punished if men don’t tow the current feminist line of thinking.

My take on it is to keep your thoughts to yourself. Are you trying to win idiots who hate you over? And don’t be fooled, you may be black but being male makes discrimination against you completely acceptable. In fact, I see male/female Jim Crow laws and segregation in men’s future.

Feminists are trying as hard as they can to drive a wedge between men of different races/colors.

That’s something we can control. Don’t turn your back on your brothers. Your sisters, mothers, aunts, teachers have all turned against you.

Want to prove me wrong. Just ask them a question that will benefit men and not women. See how they react. I don’t recommend it however, they will hold it against you for life.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

bcroger wrote:

Hey, I am a 0 year old college student who has recently joined this forum. Firstly I don’t hate females. I tell people that I don’t think that men a need women, and that women only make mens lives worse,. I tell them that I would not vote for a female (as an independent leaning democrat, I would never vote for Hillary) but that they should be allowed to run for office, or think that they are not as capable as men are. I think they should be free to do what they please though. When I tell other men this, they point out to the fact that I am a black male, and historically we have been discriminated against in this country, or that what I am saying is wrong or that men really need women. This causes me to feel somewhat guilty about my feelings and beliefs, even though its true. How can I get over some of this guilt? Thoughts?

I would say the main thing is to do what works for you.  Reason why you look at MGTOW stuff is to be aware of all the horrors out there that can take you down and ruin you.  They are reality.  It doesn’t mean you have to have rage or anger, but be aware.  You work on your life, and your boundaries and what works for you, and not think about the “need women”.  They are your own personal biases and opinions.  Own them as your own.  And tell anyone that is what you think.

For me, MGTOW is about a lifestyle choice about the avoidance of women in your life in some areas, so you can become freed to pursue things that better fit what you are.  I would say work in that direction.  In regards to guilt, if you can back it up with facts, then dodge the guilt.  You may be feeling your view is overly simplistic, in which case, you will deepen it.  But a lot of guilt is merely socialization to get you to try to fit in with strangers who don’t know or care you exist.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[experiencedParticipant]

Seek the truth about females.

The true uncensored facts/behaviors/track records.

If you read twenty books on tigers, you will Know more about them, make this your goal, IMO.

Always consider the source of your info.  The more you seek the truth, the more clearcut reality is, with less of the foof of feelings, guilt, etc.

Truth, facts, knowledge; usually with an abundance of these comes the absence of ambiguities.

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[HimeoParticipant 471]

When you are a teenager you care a lot about what other people think about you.
When you are in your 30’s you don’t care at all what other people think about you.
When you are in your 50’s you realize they were never thinking about you at all.

[Smitty the Great OneParticipant 1535]

it’s not prejudice, it is knowledge acquired over your lifetime that allows you to predict the future behavior of others. “Stupid is as stupid does”, if you notice a definable group doing something stupid it is safe to assume they all do it until proven otherwise. Sure you’re going to make mistakes, but chances are you’ll avoid more than you’ll make. Generalizations and stereotypes exist for a reason, whether anybody likes it or not. Take for instance the word n~~~~~, it’s just a word, but just let a white person utter it and people lose their f~~~ing mind… but why? I know why! They get mad not because it’s an ugly word, but because we all know what a n~~~~~ is. That’s black people know, white people, brown, yellow, red, heck even plaid people know. Understanding that “prejudice” isn’t always wrong, nor even a bad idea rubs a lot of people the wrong way. They want to imagine that generalizations and stereotypes don’t really exist, and it’s just “haters” that are prejudice. Nothing could be further from the truth. The NAWALT claim is a prized example. No, not all women are avaricious, rapacious, c~~~s, but enough are that it is a problem… most are and those that aren’t benefit from those that do, otherwise MGTOW wouldn’t exist.

Life is too long to play by someone elses rules....

[Mango IngawayParticipant 2264]

Men think they need women because they’re told so since their birth.
Once you get used to being self-reliant, most people seem like burdens more than anything else, especially “romantic” relations~~~s.
I’ll take a beer with my best friend or a good book while I sit on my bed over 99% of chicks.
That sure annoys some people, but who gives a f~~~.

It is a common failing of childhood to think that if one makes a hero out of a demon the demon will be satisfied.

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