How Black America Has Predicted Our Future

[Anonymous 6]

Much has been made in the manosphere of the ongoing rise of negative social indicators in the United States and the general societal decline that they seem to be predicting, particularly as they relate to gender relations. Many guys are worried sick about this, and rightfully so.

In the midst of this concern, however, I would like to present some information that could shed some more light on what may come of all this: we have actually been here before. In fact, there exists within our society a model for the outcome of all the ongoing negative trends we are seeing, a culture that has already felt the impact of those trends and suffered their consequences.

That model or “prototype” for our future is Black America.

The manosphere is a predominantly white corner of the net, but many of the problems discussed there are quite familiar to the relatively few blacks who frequent it. Almost every social problem guys in the manosphere cite as a growing concern within the general population has already played itself out within the Black American community.

Let us examine some of them individually.

1. Concerned about growing obesity rates?
Black American women already lead the nation here. 41% of those over 18 are obese, compared to just under a quarter of White American women in the same age range. African-American women are 70% more likely to be obese than non-Hispanic white women.

You think white girls are getting fat? You’ve got a long way to go.

2. Concerned about illegitimacy and rampant out of wedlock births?
Black America has already been there and done that. The illegitimacy rate within that community has long been close to 70%. The nightmare scenarios being predicted in much of the manosphere regarding increased out of wedlock births and the complete breakdown of the family have already been played out there. Everyone else is playing catch-up.

There is great concern about the potential for the young men of the future to grow up without a father in the picture. For most black men, this is simply routine.

3. Concerned about the spread unchecked hypergamy is having on the dating market?

Worried that it could lead to unrestrained bad-boy worship? Want to see where all of this is going? Once again, look no further than black America. There may be no female more hypergamous than the average black american girl and, interestingly, there is no female with a lower rate of marriage. The culture places a tremendous emphasis for men on the possession of traits matching those of urban masculine culture (read: “swag”, aggression, edgy appearance, etc).

In no culture are decent guys and more academically inclined males more marginalized and insulted than they are in Black American culture.You think the sexual market value of the average white or asian nerd is low? Try being their black equivalent and having your entire culture essentially disown you and claim that your intellect makes you an insult to the culture/race.Bad-boy love and the extreme form of hypergamy that comes with it has ruled the black community for a couple of generations now. That nightmare is reality there.

4. What happens when men in a certain culture are marginalized and their households become largely matriarchal?

Long Answer: Men will have high unemployment and incarceration rates, and young boys will be prone to violence, academic reticence, and poor performance in school. Nearly 70% of undergraduate and graduate degrees will be earned by females, while their men practically disappear from the higher echelons of the professional world and leave those women without suitable mates. These women will then proceed to ponder where all the good black men went.

The thing is, and this isn’t race bating or racism in the least bit, but because African Americans in the 70′s and 80′s were more single parent house holds than their Caucasian counterparts, most African American women today were raised not only without 2 parents around, but are fully convinced they don’t need a man. Blacks kinda have like a 20 year head start on this whole feminism thing.

Black women have been telling black men they aren’t s~~~, weren’t s~~~ and never will be S~~~ well before their Caucasian counterparts thought it was cool.

In short, the multiple nuclear bombs of societal decline that concern the manosphere have already went off in Black America. The end game is already on display.

It wasn’t always like this. Black Americans used to have more stable families and much lower illegitimacy rates (on par with or somewhat lower than those of modern white Americans). They had thinner women and lower crime rates. Their men were valued once, less marginalized and expendable than they are now considered to be and not as frequently incarcerated either.

In other words, there was a time in which Black America was a much closer parallel to the White America we know.

[Anonymous 54]

Nice post Venom. I remember when things where different. Yea the, I dont need no man culture has brought a downward cycle. Women need Men.Why? Because a son needs a Dad. A daughter needs a good solid Male role model.They were wrong. They do need a Man.

[Solo MAN’S WisdomParticipant]

Very well said, Venom.

When women lead, destruction is the destination. -- Me.

[FunInTheSunParticipant 8286]

When I look at black American history, it seems like the first 100 years of their freedom was something worth bragging about. They had FATHERS IN THE HOME telling their kids to behave themselves. Most women covered up their bodies and behaved modestly in public. Yeah, there was crime and poverty during those years, but most black men had an understanding that they were obligated to get a job right after high school and strive to make enough money to be SELF SUFFICIENT.

In post Civil War 19th century, you didn’t see a lot of black Americans standing around with nothing to do. They were eager to work! And they worked hard because they had a new opportunity to upgrade their lives and keep the fruits of their labor instead of working to enrich some callous slave master.

During the first half of the 20th century, many black Americans were doing what black activists are begging for today: they were spending their money on goods and services from businesses owned by other blacks. And many black entrepreneurs were becoming wealthy. They owned restaurants and retail stores that would cater to anyone regardless of race—so you can imagine how the money poured in.

Life was always difficult for black Americans, socially, but the work ethic was always there…until the 1970s. People started to get real flaky in the 1970s, and women, in general, saw men as a force holding them back from financial success and social worth instead of seeing them as allies. Many black women saw the rewards of playing the role of the victim of a racially oppressive, male-dominated society (government housing, government-sponsored food and health programs). They abandoned the work ethic that gave dignity to generations of black Americans in order to get free stuff.

The main problem I see in the black American community: waiting for white Americans to fix their social problems. It’s not going to happen. Not all black Americans have financial and social problems—many have a standard of living that is better than the average American’s—but a large percentage of them have high levels of poverty, crime, and unemployment in their communities. I think the social problems will improve if INDIVIDUALS decide they want a better life. And individual can grow up in a neighborhood such as Detroit, with boarded up houses and unkempt lawns, and decide to graduate from high school, read about subjects of interest in a local library, and apply for jobs. If he can’t find a job, he can join a branch of the Armed Forces and take advantage of a cash bonus program to pay for college/trade school. He can then save his money and move to a city that has better job opportunities.

I think MGTOW is part of the solution to young black men who grow up in impoverished, violent communities in the USA. Each individual should work, save money, and avoid getting a woman pregnant. If he wants to improve his lot in life, he may have to abandon the childhood friends he’s hanging out with—if their lives are going nowhere—and start a new life in a different location. If more black American men created businesses in their communities, they could hire other blacks and have a significant impact on their local economies. Many American communities of other ethnic groups (Latin American, Asian, etc.) have entrepreneurs that are doing this and prosperity ensues—along with clean streets, good schools, and community-based public safety programs to reduce crime and protect/respect law-abiding citizens.

"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)

[The_Mad_PirateParticipant 1278]

I wouldnt be surprised if most hotep nation men are mgtow.

"We didn't start the fire. It was always burning. Since the world's been turning" "A world that vilifies men only breeds a generation of men that feel no empathy towards women" “In a woman’s mind , there is really no such thing as a ‘we’. In her eyes, earth allways revolves around her, not the other way around. So thinking that your needs , aspirations or desires are valid enough to be persued, or even that you are entitled achive such goals, is like asking your boss for a pay rise in your very first day at the job.”

[HitmanParticipant]

Thanks for the excellent topic and information.
Proud to be your MGTOW brother!

[FermatParticipant 3478]

It’s a sad state of affairs in the black community. I am looked at very oddly because I do not “act black”.

I have discovered a truly remarkable list of reasons why women are not necessary for a happy life, but alas this margin is too small to contain it.

[Rolling Tin FistParticipant 484]

I remember being told in college I was “acting” white for not (basically) being a moron. I told my classmate at the time (who ironically was white acting black) that no matter what he thought about what it meant to be black, that no black person I knew enjoyed being broke all the time. Also, and more importantly, that I came from a family where mediocrity wasn’t an option.

"Love is the delusion that one woman differs from another" - H. L. Mencken

[Chaff/FlareParticipant 3235]

The social engineers used the ghettos as a testing ground for what they want to do to all of society. Look it up, 15.5 million black babies have been aborted since 1973. Margret Sanger, mother of planned parenthood said “colored people are like human weeds that need to be exterminated”.

When you find yourself in the majority, it's time to reflect.

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